(SPOILERS) Game Of Thrones Season 7 Discussion

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

Does NK exist in Branworld? Why did he have chains ready? Or maybe time passed there.

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

1 hour ago, ImNtDead said:

My favorite fun part of Episode 6 is Tormund's and the Hounds conversation about Brienne of Tarth.

"I want to make baby's with her. Think of them, great big monsters. They'd conquer the world."

With all the OMG moments in the episode, was that really your favorite scene?

How about when these two sparked up and charged in with flaming swords?

 

 

Edited August 21, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

[BadMotivator 1,263]

So I'm not entirely an expert on the lore of the setting, but how the frak can the Night King raise a dragon?

Given that Dragons are magical beings associated with Fire, and fire is the total opposite of how the Night King works, it should have been impossible.

 

Also, lol at Tormund talking about Brienne.

Edited August 21, 2017 by BadMotivator

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

28 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

So I'm not entirely an expert on the lore of the setting, but how the frak can the Night King raise a dragon?

Given that Dragons are magical beings associated with Fire, and fire is the total opposite of how the Night King works, it should have been impossible.

Dead to Undead...  You're complicating things too much.

There was an episode where they showed the ducts in Drogon's mouth, which suggested the flames are a chemical reaction.  

The flames don't come from behind that, there's always a gap, as far as I've seen.  

The question I'd ask is will he still be breathing anything out as an Ice Dragon. 

 

Edited August 21, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

[ImNtDead 24]

1 hour ago, gabe69velasquez said:

With all the OMG moments in the episode, was that really your favorite scene?

Favorite fun scene as in laughable, lovable, camaraderie, good times fun. It reminded me of so many conversations that were had when I was in the army.

1 hour ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Does NK exist in Branworld? Why did he have chains ready? Or maybe time passed there.

I figure he got the chains from ships that were trapped in ice up in the glacier shores of the winter lands beyond the wall. Also the Nightking seems to have some sort of power in seeing the way the Three Eyed Raven sees. It's not explained really; but maybe he saw that there would be a dragon when he got to this small lake and so he brought those chains with him. And I just realized that maybe thats the reason why the Nightking took so long to get there.

13 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

So I'm not entirely an expert on the lore of the setting, but how the frak can the Night King raise a dragon?

Given that Dragons are magical beings associated with Fire, and fire is the total opposite of how the Night King works, it should have been impossible.

I figured that's why he had to put his hand on it probably used a lot of his power to do so and I don't think the dragon can spit fire anymore. Well I hope the dragon can't spit fire anymore.

Maybe spit liquid nitrogen, that would be cool; but I heard it's going to breath blue fire. Kinda reminds me the undead dragon from World of Warcraft.

 

[BadMotivator 1,263]

9 minutes ago, gabe69velasquez said:

Dead to Undead...  You're complicating things too much.

There was an episode where they showed the ducts in Drogon's mouth, which suggested the flames are a chemical reaction.  

The flames don't come from behind that, there's always a gap, as far as I've seen.  

The question I'd ask is will he still be breathing anything out as an Ice Dragon. 

 

Yet the scene where he almost fried Jamie shows the fire coming from much much deeper. Dragons aren't fully natural creatures in this setting.

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

Just now, ImNtDead said:

I figure he got the chains from ships that were trapped in ice up in the glacier shores of the winter lands beyond the wall. Also the Nightking seems to have some sort of power in seeing the way the Three Eyed Raven sees. It's not explained really; but maybe he saw that there would be a dragon when he got to this small lake and so he brought those chains with him. And I just realized that maybe thats the reason why the Nightking took so long to get there.

I figured that's why he had to put his hand on it probably used a lot of his power to do so and I don't think the dragon can spit fire anymore. Well I hope the dragon can't spit fire anymore.

Maybe spit liquid nitrogen, that would be cool; but I heard it's going to breath blue fire. Kinda reminds me the undead dragon from World of Warcraft.

 

Found it... http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_dragons

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In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, ice dragons are said to roam the Shivering Sea and the White Waste. They are said to be larger than the dragons of Valyria and made out of living ice, with pale blue crystal eyes, vast translucent wings and very cold breath - which can instantly freeze people and things solid, a mirror opposite of how the breath of regular dragons burn them. There is a constellation of stars to the north called the ice dragon, with blue eyes that point north.

 

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

16 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

Yet the scene where he almost fried Jamie shows the fire coming from much much deeper. Dragons aren't fully natural creatures in this setting.

It does light up, but you don't see flames coming from that far back, it could just be a heat catalyst for the chemical reaction. 

 

18 minutes ago, ImNtDead said:

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Maybe spit liquid nitrogen, that would be cool; but I heard it's going to breath blue fire. Kinda reminds me the undead dragon from World of Warcraft.

If the combination of the two chemicals is lead by the temperature of the breath/exhalation, then a could be the breath might produce something like liquid nitrogen.

Edited August 21, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

[ImNtDead 24]

1 minute ago, gabe69velasquez said:

Found it... http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_dragons

 

I hope so cause it will be disappointing if this undead dragon spits fire.

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

Just now, ImNtDead said:

I hope so cause it will be disappointing if this undead dragon spits fire.

Fake poster but nice. 

[BadMotivator 1,263]

On the other hand, the undead dragon destroying itself would be kinda hilarious. Night King would probably facepalm real hard.

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

6 minutes ago, ImNtDead said:

19 minutes ago, gabe69velasquez said:

Found it... http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_dragons

I hope so cause it will be disappointing if this undead dragon spits fire.

 

 

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

9 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

On the other hand, the undead dragon destroying itself would be kinda hilarious. Night King would probably facepalm real hard.

 

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons

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Fire-breath

Probably the most famous attribute of dragons is their ability to breathe fire. Dragon flame can turn flesh to ash, melt steel, and crack stone. Older dragons can produce more intense flame for longer duration. Dragons seem to produce their fire-breath by expelling chemicals out of two tubes in the back of their throats: when these volatile substances combine, they undergo an intense reaction which bursts into a directed jet of fire. The bodies of dragons are also very resistant to fire, particularly their own flames, which don't even damage their own mouths as they expel them. Some believe that in many ways dragons are fire, fire given form as flesh: it is said that "fire cannot kill a dragon".

 

Small tubes in Drogon's mouth showing where they spit fire from.

 

Edited August 21, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

[ImNtDead 24]

17 minutes ago, gabe69velasquez said:

Fake poster but nice. 

Can not be denied, very cool poster.

17 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

On the other hand, the undead dragon destroying itself would be kinda hilarious. Night King would probably facepalm real hard.

LOL! That would be hilarious. However the dragons are fireproof so unfortunately.

Maybe if HBO spent a little money on a CGI blooper skit of the Night Kings new pet setting itself on fire where he facepalms and his lieutenants are standing around giggling. LMAO!

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

 

[gabe69velasquez 2,143]

1 hour ago, ImNtDead said:

Favorite fun scene as in laughable, lovable, camaraderie, good times fun. It reminded me of so many conversations that were had when I was in the army.

 

[ImNtDead 24]

That is hilarious, I'm pretty sure anyone would have done that. Not exactly a scene from the show; but still very fun. Episode 5 this season had tons of favorite fun scenes.

Edited August 22, 2017 by ImNtDead

[BlodVargarna 4,041]

Was sad to see expendable dragon number one go. Horrified at prospect of Night King plus Dragon. 

There was a lot of suspensions of disbelief in this episode:

super fast guy running back to Eastwatch, email raven to Danerys, supersonic dragon flight to find John Snow with his locator beacon. Snow coming out of the lake to be rescued by Uncle Ben.

But I don't care about that. I got to see what I've been waiting to see for years now: Dragons burning zombies!

Who thinks John Snow is going to kill the Night King in single combat? 

*raises his hand ? *

Edited August 21, 2017 by BlodVargarna

[Jo Jo 4,808]

Yeah... I would have definitely wrote to where the party brought with them a Maester with ravens or something like that. I actually looked up how far a raven can fly in a day and theoretically they can go 500-600 miles. I was surprised that only Thoros had bitten it, until they killed a dragon. Sounds like Viserion was the dragon who is now an undead dragon.

 

Jon and Dany are definitely happening.

Edited August 21, 2017 by Jo Jo

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

There's a pretty good post on r/freefolk(warning, no spoiler tags and leaked info everywhere on that sub) detailing how long a raven and dragon flight would take. They had to be sitting on that lake for a few days.

[HaranHaste 137]

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

 Sounds like Viserion was the dragon who is now an undead dragon.

I watch with subtitles due to having the volume lower so I dont disturb my kids while they sleep, and it said [Viserion screams] as the dragon was hit and falling to the ice.

25 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

They had to be sitting on that lake for a few days.

I dont understand why the undead army was just waiting there. Obviously, the ice broke, but last I checked, the White Walkers bring extreme cold with them and would just freeze the water back to ice. Also, there looked to be 5 White Walkers, I am no mathologist, but I think those 5 plus the army could easily have handled Jon and his group. The obvious retort to that is the Night King knew the dragons were coming and they needed to see Jon and his group in order to be low enough for a spear attack to turn one.

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

Freezing a lake thick can take a really long time, even if the air temp is extremely low. Once the first ice forms the water is insulated from the air. Source: I study climate.

 

 

NK could have just speared them all. He was 100% waiting for his dragon.

[HaranHaste 137]

6 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Freezing a lake thick can take a really long time, even if the air temp is extremely low. Once the first ice forms the water is insulated from the air. Source: I study climate.

LOL, science has no business in GoT . They have undead, fast travel, and dragons. 

But in normal terms, yes, I know that once the ice forms on top, it takes longer to form thicker, however again, the White Walkers have a "cold aura" that could freeze it quicker. With just an inch of ice, the undead could start crossing in small numbers then group up before getting to the "island".

[Jo Jo 4,808]

14 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Freezing a lake thick can take a really long time, even if the air temp is extremely low. Once the first ice forms the water is insulated from the air. Source: I study climate.

 

 

NK could have just speared them all. He was 100% waiting for his dragon.

 

But how many of those magic ice spears does he have? They may not be that easy to obtain.

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

5 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:

 

But how many of those magic ice spears does he have? They may not be that easy to obtain.

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