(SPOILERS) Game Of Thrones Season 7 Discussion

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

Episode 6 has leaked. Beware the internet until Sunday!

[ImNtDead 24]

[FTS Gecko 24,135]

I'm thinking a trick was missed there, should be something about Sandor eating every chicken in the room..

[BadMotivator 1,263]

Also, Jon Snow should be an Undead Ranger if you're gonna slap whatshisface with Undead. Though I think he probably just used Wish and his GM is lazy about enforcing it's use limits.

[ImNtDead 24]

21 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

I'm thinking a trick was missed there, should be something about Sandor eating every chicken in the room..

+15% Rage Attack due to hunger for chicken caused by an enemy who is a talker. Cumulative for each round the talker lives as the need to eat chicken increases. LOL!

12 hours ago, BadMotivator said:

Also, Jon Snow should be an Undead Ranger if you're gonna slap whatshisface with Undead. Though I think he probably just used Wish and his GM is lazy about enforcing it's use limits.

Maybe one must be resurrected six times before being granted the title "Undead" and gaining the "No rest between battles" attribute. :-P

[Suriel 619]

Is it explained anywhere how the **** Thoros can light the sword? Is it magic or some sort of flammable liquid? 

[FTS Gecko 24,135]

9 minutes ago, Suriel said:

Is it explained anywhere how the **** Thoros can light the sword? Is it magic or some sort of flammable liquid? 

Not explained.  It could be the magic via the Lord of Light's; could be misdirection.

A scene in an earlier season with Melisandre explains that a lot of her potions and powders are tricks designed to make men believe; Thoros could well be doing the same with the flaming sword (in fact, that would make a lot of sense during the Hound's trial by combat with Beric; a trick designed to inspire fear and awe).

However, considering the "lightsaber activation" the trailer for the next episode, that looks like a more magical scenario.  And a bit of smoke and mirrors might work against the Hound, but not agaisnt the army of the dead.

1 hour ago, ImNtDead said:

+15% Rage Attack due to hunger for chicken caused by an enemy who is a talker. Cumulative for each round the talker lives as the need to eat chicken increases. LOL!

Time to build an animated gif, I think.  "Urge to eat chicken intensifies"!

[Suriel 619]

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

Not explained.  It could be the magic via the Lord of Light's; could be misdirection.

A scene in an earlier season with Melisandre explains that a lot of her potions and powders are tricks designed to make men believe; Thoros could well be doing the same with the flaming sword (in fact, that would make a lot of sense during the Hound's trial by combat with Beric; a trick designed to inspire fear and awe).

However, considering the "lightsaber activation" the trailer for the next episode, that looks like a more magical scenario.  And a bit of smoke and mirrors might work against the Hound, but not agaisnt the army of the dead.

Time to build an animated gif, I think.  "Urge to eat chicken intensifies"!

Having seen the episode 6. (thx HBO). Yeah, that doesn't look like a trick. Looks like Lord of Light does give a f..k in comparison to the 7.

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1 minute ago, Suriel said:

Having seen the episode 6. (thx HBO). Yeah, that doesn't look like a trick. Looks like Lord of Light does give a f..k in comparison to the 7.

The Lord of Light story is an interesting one.  Through Melisandre's arc (and especially the disturbing murder of Renly and the human sacrifices she made), it was difficult to see the Lord of Light as a force for good.  There was always the concern that there may be something altogether unwholesome or sinister about the red priests/priestesses and their religion.

I'm really hoping these wrinkles in the story don't end up being lost in the final few episodes.

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

In the books it's wildfire on his blade.

[NotBatman 706]

1 hour ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

In the books it's wildfire on his blade.

Right, and if I recall they specifically call out how silly it is in actual use because it damages the blade so he has to replace his sword often.

[Jo Jo 4,808]

Where did the rest of the Brotherhood without Banners go?

[ImNtDead 24]

2 hours ago, NotBatman said:

Right, and if I recall they specifically call out how silly it is in actual use because it damages the blade so he has to replace his sword often.

That makes more sense when considering how the Hound broke Ser Berric's sword during their trial by combat.

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

Where did the rest of the Brotherhood without Banners go?

Maybe they're the five extra guys who had that sled when they all left the wall.

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2 hours ago, ImNtDead said:

Maybe they're the five extra guys who had that sled when they all left the wall.

Maybe Thoros sacrificed them all to the Lord of Light so they could actually make it to Eastwatch two seasons after Stannis barely made it from Castle Black to Winterfell.

Edited August 17, 2017 by FTS Gecko

[T70 Driver 1,344]

On 8/14/2017 at 3:15 AM, FTS Gecko said:

Epic raid party, bro.

Just don't go Leeroy Jenkins again, John.

Magnificent Seven, Westeros edition.

[T70 Driver 1,344]

On 8/6/2017 at 9:27 PM, BadMotivator said:

heck to the feth yeah. That episode was 1000% pure awesome!

No stupid Euron ex machina. Check!

Awesome Dothraki and Dragon toasty action. Check!

The Lannisters really messed up on the ballista, now Danerys knows they exist and can hurt her dragons so she'll never fall for it again. The Lannister army is also basically destroyed. And whatever food they were trying to gather is now Danerys's(or burnt to a crisp. Seriously Dany, work on your aim. Hit the clumped up lines of soldiers, not the wagons behind them!).

 

Actually hitting the wagons behind the Lannister battleline was smart. They had the Dothraki hitting from their front and a giant, flying, fire breathing lizard laying down lines of fire so hot it turns you to ash in a moment to their rear. It gave them no place to retreat to when things got bad.

Edited August 18, 2017 by T70 Driver

[Magnus Grendel 11,679]

Plus the did scorch-sweep a breach in the Tarly shieldwall - that the dothraki charged through* - and then went to work on the wagons.

 

 

* That presumably took some serious training (both in-story and in real life!) to get the horses to charge through the flames...

20 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

The Lord of Light story is an interesting one.  Through Melisandre's arc (and especially the disturbing murder of Renly and the human sacrifices she made), it was difficult to see the Lord of Light as a force for good.  There was always the concern that there may be something altogether unwholesome or sinister about the red priests/pr

It's a god who does something. That's not the same as does something good. 

12 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Maybe Thoros sacrificed them all to the Lord of Light so they could actually make it to Eastwatch two seasons after Stannis barely made it from Castle Black to Winterfell.

I remember seeing a map recently showing the distance John has covered since Hardhome versus the distance the army of the dead has covered....

 

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16 hours ago, T70 Driver said:

Actually hitting the wagons behind the Lannister battleline was smart. They had the Dothraki hitting from their front and a giant, flying, fire breathing lizard laying down lines of fire so hot it turns you to ash in a moment to their rear. It gave them no place to retreat to when things got bad.

It would have been better to strafe the battle line sideways. You'd open up a bigger gap for the Dothraki and kill more soldiers. The wagons actually have valuable supplies.

Only reason to destroy the supplies is if you have no way of taking them back with you or are just doing a hit and run attack. But as of now, Danerys has basically full run of the 7 Kingdoms. The Lannister army is basically destroyed, and the survivors are trapped in Kings Landing. The Dothraki can kill any that leave the safety of the city, and the Lannisters have no food supplies. The Dragons can toast any ships that try to approach Kings Landing.

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19 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

I remember seeing a map recently showing the distance John has covered since Hardhome versus the distance the army of the dead has covered....

some map somewhere, lol.          I did a search using your comment and it came up, easy-peasy. 

Edited August 19, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

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If you don't want to know the contents of the scroll Arya found then don't read the quote below.:

 

Edited August 19, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

[ImNtDead 24]

1 hour ago, gabe69velasquez said:

some map somewhere, lol.          I did a search using your comment and it came up, easy-peasy. 

Didn't the Night King and his army go looking for Bran after Hardhome? Plus I guarantee you that undead host is a nightmare to maneuver through the snow covered lands of the far north.

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5 hours ago, ImNtDead said:

Didn't the Night King and his army go looking for Bran after Hardhome? Plus I guarantee you that undead host is a nightmare to maneuver through the snow covered lands of the far north.

https://quartermaester.info/   -   There's also this interactive map which has a far more reasonable route for Jon. 

Considering the distances they'd still have to be trudging about in circles.   Search pattern circles maybe.     Kind of like this rendition... 

 

 

As you say, if the dead army went Northward into Thenn territory ("Valley of the Thenns") looking for Bran, then the terrain makes up for the difference. 

 

 

 

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"Kaitlyn: The last we saw the White Walkers, in episode nine of season five, they were in Hardhome. By episode six of this season, they’ve gotten to the Three-Eyed Raven’s Tree Cave, which most people place slightly east of the Fist of the First Men. They made it from slightly east of a tree to a tree in seven episodes. We’ve been asked to consider them an imminent danger for six seasons now, but they move at about the pace of a shopping mall that was built on top of a swamp. That is when they aren’t hurling themselves off cliffs.

Believability Score: -1000"

 

 

Edited August 19, 2017 by gabe69velasquez

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51 minutes ago, gabe69velasquez said:

https://quartermaester.info/   -   There's also this interactive map which has a far more reasonable route for Jon. 

Considering the distances they'd still have to be trudging about in circles.   Search pattern circles maybe.     Kind of like this rendition... 

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As you say, if the dead army went Northward into Thenn territory ("Valley of the Thenns") looking for Bran, then the terrain makes up for the difference. 

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Yeah it's possible the Night King was searching for Bran with all his undead which I'm sure all scattered in multiple directions and thus the Night King had to gather them all back together. We also know that the Night Kings been building up his power for Winter itself so maybe he needs winter to be at a certain stage before he starts the party.

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14 minutes ago, ImNtDead said:

Yeah it's possible the Night King was searching for Bran with all his undead which I'm sure all scattered in multiple directions and thus the Night King had to gather them all back together. We also know that the Night Kings been building up his power for Winter itself so maybe he needs winter to be at a certain stage before he starts the party.

"The party is coming" needs a meme. 

 

[ImNtDead 24]

My favorite fun part of Episode 6 is Tormund's and the Hounds conversation about Brienne of Tarth.

"I want to make baby's with her. Think of them, great big monsters. They'd conquer the world."