[Mafia] Nowhere Special - COMPLETE

[WigTii 279]

I'm looking over some posts now.  I might have something to contribute shortly.

[WigTii 279]

My intuition tells me that we've overlooked something.  Something is off.  I'm not sure what it is, so I'm looking over the posts again.  

[Onidsen 571]

53 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:

My intuition tells me that we've overlooked something.  Something is off.  I'm not sure what it is, so I'm looking over the posts again.  

Yeah - discussion. I've been part of that, so I'll stand up and own it. But it's a big part of what we're missing.

Speaking of discussion.

##vote @CaribbeanNinja

You point out Norell and Truthi as the most suspicious people D1, but don't back it up with a vote? Seems like a case of trying to lead the village somewhere without getting implicated yourself.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

1 minute ago, Onidsen said:

Yeah - discussion. I've been part of that, so I'll stand up and own it. But it's a big part of what we're missing.

Speaking of discussion.

##vote @CaribbeanNinja

You point out Norell and Truthi as the most suspicious people D1, but don't back it up with a vote? Seems like a case of trying to lead the village somewhere without getting implicated yourself.

Nah, I'll take full responsibility for my suspicions.  

I still say Norell is the most suspicious. But do I put him at -2? No I think not.  Yet anyhow.  I will always do what I think will help the establishment.  And if that means a last minute lynching I'll always gladly take the heat for it. (See last two games.)  I rarely vote just to vote.

And I also say that Truthiness is my second suspect.  That is more a gut feeling.

I rarely vote just to vote.  Something that is a little weird is that the votes actually seem all over the place Day 1

[Norell 1,198]

We don't seem to get anywhere ans time is ticking away...

#vote time extension

[Visovics 1,675]

1 hour ago, Norell said:

We don't seem to get anywhere ans time is ticking away...

#vote time extension

Last time the extension was due timezone issues. We have a duty to sort ourselves in the allocated time. This for me looks like buying time to save yourself, so I'm more and more tempted to throw the vote

[Visovics 1,675]

We have 7 hours left, where I will be at school, so

##vote Norell

while so, if he claims, please guys, don't go past D1 with no vote

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

7 hours 10 minutes remain - 5 to hammer 

@moodswing5537 - Onidsen
@Visovics
@Onidsen - moodswing5537
@Madaghmire - ovinomanc3r
@ovinomanc3r - Madaghmire, Truthiness, Norell
@CaribbeanNinja
@Admiral WigT
@Norell - (3) Truthiness, Visovics, ovinomanc3r, Visovics
@Truthiness - (1) Norell

[Norell 1,198]

Fine, lynch me but promise me you'll lynchTruthiness next. Those who already voted won't change their opinion no matter what I say from now on. And the others will vote because somebody has to be lynched. Except the mafia of course. They will vote to get rid of a townie.

[WigTii 279]

19 hours ago, Visovics said:

For some reason my guts tell me CNinja and Mad are among that terrorist rebel scum, but no real reason.

@Visovics

Let's chat about this.  No one picked up on this...it seems to have been completely overlooked.  

[Truthiness 5,696]

28 minutes ago, Norell said:

Fine, lynch me but promise me you'll lynch Truthiness next. Those who already voted won't change their opinion no matter what I say from now on. And the others will vote because somebody has to be lynched. Except the mafia of course. They will vote to get rid of a townie.

Man, you're really fixated on me. If you are town, this is a really bad binary to set up. Because if you are town, you've now setup back to back townie hangings based on very little. Day one hangings are a crap shoot. I can already see a path to Scum victory based on that statement. We hang you, then Ninja, the other person who is suspicious of me, gets killed in the night. I then get hanged the next day and the Scum get another night kill. We're then down to 3 townies and 2 Scum. This, of course, also assumes Ninja is indeed town.

It you're Scum, it's a decent ultimatum to cause some reasonable doubt. As town, this is a terrible play that will lose us the game. I'll be the one to back off this binary ledge you've put us on. 

##unvote Norell 

I'll leave it to the rest of the town.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

14 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

Man, you're really fixated on me. If you are town, this is a really bad binary to set up. Because if you are town, you've now setup back to back townie hangings based on very little. Day one hangings are a crap shoot. I can already see a path to Scum victory based on that statement. We hang you, then Ninja, the other person who is suspicious of me, gets killed in the night. I then get hanged the next day and the Scum get another night kill. We're then down to 3 townies and 2 Scum. This, of course, also assumes Ninja is indeed town.

It you're Scum, it's a decent ultimatum to cause some reasonable doubt. As town, this is a terrible play that will lose us the game. I'll be the one to back off this binary ledge you've put us on. 

##unvote Norell 

I'll leave it to the rest of the town.

Right now then, the question is do we think Norell just made a great scum play, or a strange town play? (I'm less inclined to call is "terrible" since I also have a gut feeling about Truth, but that is all that it is.  Very little evidence.)

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

3 hours remain - 5 to hammer 

@moodswing5537 - Onidsen
@Visovics
@Onidsen - moodswing5537
@Madaghmire - ovinomanc3r
@ovinomanc3r - Madaghmire, Truthiness, Norell
@CaribbeanNinja
@Admiral WigT
@Norell - (2) Truthiness, Visovics, ovinomanc3r, Visovics
@Truthiness - (1) Norell

[Madaghmire 7,274]

Sorry was playing softball last night. Let me sort through and I'll drop a vote before the deadline.

[Norell 1,198]

And what if Truth is playing the good scum play gettig gg points by backing off?

[Norell 1,198]

BTW sorry to fixate on you @Truthiness but I have to suspect someone. And the others are awfully quiet, there is nothing to work with. And the day is almost over.

[WigTii 279]

Starting my long work day and I might be busy when time expires, so I guess I'm voting very soon...within the next 30 minutes.

I am very eager to put down this rebellion and return Nowhere Special to the peace we had before this. 

I'm not convinced that Norell is rebel scum as I believe Visovics gut feeling that CNinja and Mad are scum needs to be explored.  I'm also a bit wary of the response to Norell's actions in relation to his vote for Ovi.  His vote occurred during a period when "vote Ovi" was in vogue.  The backlash seems a bit much, and it makes me wonder if it's part of some nefarious plot.

I'm all for eliminating rebel scum, not loyal citizens. 

 

[moodswing5537 1,415]

I'm a little disturbed by how thought out Truthi has this, and it seems pretty determined to take out Norell, which bothers me. Can't explain more because of work. Sry.

 

## vote @Truthiness

[Truthiness 5,696]

Alright folks. I'll throw my claim out then. I'm vanilla town, so no big loss if I get killed in the night. If I'm hanged today, I would not immediately suspect Norell. I'm getting opposite vibe from Ninja. Feels more like bad town play than Scum ATM. He's still my best read, but Ninja and mood are setting off my radar as well.

For the full back story: I'm“Lackluster” Sam Sleepyhead, and I'm a loyalist. I quit my job as a lecturer to fight the terrorists however I must, even if I die!

 

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

1 hour remains - 5 to hammer 

@moodswing5537 - Onidsen
@Visovics
@Onidsen - moodswing5537
@Madaghmire - ovinomanc3r
@ovinomanc3r - Madaghmire, Truthiness, Norell
@CaribbeanNinja
@Admiral WigT
@Norell - (2) Truthiness, Visovics, ovinomanc3r, Visovics
@Truthiness - (2) Norell, moodswing5537

[Truthiness 5,696]

23 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

I'm a little disturbed by how thought out Truthi has this, and it seems pretty determined to take out Norell, which bothers me. Can't explain more because of work. Sry.

 

## vote @Truthiness

Odd thing to say since I've backed off Norell in an attempt to defuse what is appearing to be more of a town on town situation. I think for a living. Those conclusions are a pretty easy deduction to make. 

You and Ninja have been pretty pushy yourselves while careful to avoid direct attention on yourselves.

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

WTF are you claiming with two votes?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

34 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

I'm a little disturbed by how thought out Truthi has this, and it seems pretty determined to take out Norell, which bothers me. Can't explain more because of work. Sry.

 

## vote @Truthiness

This is super sketchy. 

Truth totally backed off, and I am probably Norells biggest critic right now. 

[Truthiness 5,696]

15 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

WTF are you claiming with two votes?

To get the conversation back on track. I'm vanilla, so who cares. You keep couching your criticisms of Norell with a "gut feeling" about me, which plays further into a binary setup between Norell and myself. You're effectively saying "It's definitely one of them!" What if it's not? So I'm going to put my cards on the table. 

[moodswing5537 1,415]

12 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

This is super sketchy. 

Truth totally backed off, and I am probably Norells biggest critic right now. 

Nothing sketchy about this. No matter Norrels reasoning, Truthi stayed on him. I'd quote them all, but I'm not where there is good signal. 

Norell merely jumped in after a pressure vote. Just like I was accused of poor timing, I think norell was truly a victim. But hell, with so little time left and us all over the board, I'm not confident enough to vote either one anymore.  I'll just abstain until we get more conversation. 

##un vote @Truthiness