[Mafia] Village Mos Erdru - COMPLETE

[Visovics 1,675]

Just now, Truthiness said:

So... when's the next one?

whenever it is, @BiggsIRL... COUNT ME IN AGAIN!

[Onidsen 571]

Just now, Truthiness said:

So... when's the next one?

Lol... yep.  These games are addictive. I second the question.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

I told Biggs I'd gm the next one so he could play. Give me a day or two to figure out wtf im doing and I'll give it a shot.

fair warning tho I have the same two games of mafia you saw me play under my belt so its gonna be an, uhm, experience.

[BiggsIRL 6,717]

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I told Biggs I'd gm the next one so he could play. Give me a day or two to figure out wtf im doing and I'll give it a shot.

fair warning tho I have the same two games of mafia you saw me play under my belt so its gonna be an, uhm, experience.

I dont' know about you, but I'm hyped!

[Ginkapo 9,320]

12 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I told Biggs I'd gm the next one so he could play. Give me a day or two to figure out wtf im doing and I'll give it a shot.

fair warning tho I have the same two games of mafia you saw me play under my belt so its gonna be an, uhm, experience.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

Really good 9 player newbie semi open set up

[Visovics 1,675]

20 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I told Biggs I'd gm the next one so he could play. Give me a day or two to figure out wtf im doing and I'll give it a shot.

fair warning tho I have the same two games of mafia you saw me play under my belt so its gonna be an, uhm, experience.

you can do a simple one if you want to start off as GM, or you can go Biggs level with lovers and thir-parties and weird **** on, whatever you do I'm down!

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

On 2017-6-11 at 10:48 AM, ovinomanc3r said:

Hmm 

That is a hard choice.

I could be sure about Visovics watching myself but I already think is Caribbean Ninja.

I am worried about a superkill role that could go through Visovics cause then, I am gonna die and Visovics will be incriminated. If I only could be sure my mates are going to track Tirion early posts...

1. Visovics lie. Kill me. He is done and what I did doesn't matter.

2. Visovics is bodyguard but I die cause the hutt is a strongman. Visovics is done and what I did doesn't matter. 

3. Visovics is bodyguard OR is not but kill someone else to avoid the easy lynching and there is not a strongman. The likely targets will be one of the other three but WHO?

Who between Onidsen and Ghost is less trustworthy? Ghost voted Tirion the first even before I claimed but was completely out all the game. Onidsen didn't vote JJs and maybe the hutt wanted to use it as an excuse in addition with the fact that he voted the last "when all were lost with Tirion"... I think Ghost is going to die at least in the circumstances where my actions could have some repercussions so:

###watch GhostofNobody

still thinking. Everyone said something incriminating at one time or another.

Sorry for the speech. It is night and I cannot ask for help. It is some kind of mental therapy 

 

On 2017-6-11 at 4:01 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

Nah!  It is Caribbean for sure. 

He must be!!

Hopefully...

Onidsen and Caribbean cannot die cause they are pretty suspicious after the Tirion lynching. If the hutt want a escape way he must keep them alive until tomorrow. 

Visovics is a good piece to watch as me so it would be a bit risky for him.

##watch GhostOf 

If he is hutt he deserves to win.

I bring it here just cause I enjoyed reading Visovics talking alone. I know how he felt himself. 

[Ginkapo 9,320]

As its a really important question. 

Should town push for a lynch D1? How did you find D2 after a nolynch D1?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

As its a really important question. 

Should town push for a lynch D1? How did you find D2 after a nolynch D1?

It depends...

Did the cop/tracker/watcher die?

Are there stranges voices out there?

Edited June 13, 2017 by ovinomanc3r

[PT106 2,316]

3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

As its a really important question. 

Should town push for a lynch D1? How did you find D2 after a nolynch D1?

Town should push for at least a credible threat of a lynch day 1.

[Ginkapo 9,320]

7 minutes ago, PT106 said:

Town should push for at least a credible threat of a lynch day 1.

Why why why

Why

Why

WHY? 

Mafia is all about why!

[Visovics 1,675]

7 minutes ago, PT106 said:

Town should push for at least a credible threat of a lynch day 1.

Town yeah, hutt play like you are scared of a power role dying

[Ginkapo 9,320]

9 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

It depends...

Did the cop/tracker/watcher die?

Are there stranges voices out there?

D1. Should town push for lynch on D1 when they cannot answer either of those questions?

[Ginkapo 9,320]

1 minute ago, Visovics said:

Town yeah, hutt play like you are scared of a power role dying

So you think that a Hutt should visibly act differently to a town player in thread? 

[Madaghmire 7,274]

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

Really good 9 player newbie semi open set up

Thanks gink i spent my whole lunch on the site doing research. I think what I'll do is see how many people want to play though. Ask for 9 and if I get more, I'll use a different preset. Solves my bigger issue of trying to sort out balance on my own with only two games under my belt.

[PT106 2,316]

8 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

D1. Should town push for lynch on D1 when they cannot answer either of those questions?

As long as there was an accusation or two that put people into different camps I may be fine with no lynch day 1 (as a townie). But a blank 'no lynch day 1' policy is bad for the town.

[Madaghmire 7,274]

10 minutes ago, PT106 said:

As long as there was an accusation or two that put people into different camps I may be fine with no lynch day 1 (as a townie). But a blank 'no lynch day 1' policy is bad for the town.

I mean, vis got lucky and slipped away. But looking at this game, for example, a blind lynch was certain to hurt us. The only thing we might get out of it was information, but even that was going to be minor. Case by case IMO, even if that is a cop out answer.

[PT106 2,316]

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

I mean, vis got lucky and slipped away. But looking at this game, for example, a blind lynch was certain to hurt us. The only thing we might get out of it was information, but even that was going to be minor. Case by case IMO, even if that is a cop out answer.

He actually didn't. He was forced to do a false claim that did hurt him long term. And information, not the killing itself,  is the main reason to do day 1 lynch threat. However, to get that information, the threat has to be real. This is the reason I started to suspect Tirion from day 1: as his last minute push on Norell could only achieve the kill without providing town with any useful information.

[Visovics 1,675]

49 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

So you think that a Hutt should visibly act differently to a town player in thread? 

As long as there are some town in the no-lynch and you can provide reasonable explanation not like me, combined with the factor of having something bad happening in a D1 on the previous game, then GO FOR IT!

[Norell 1,198]

OMG for a few hours I thought you are actually going to lynch ovi...

Also, when is the next round? Maybe I'll live a day longer this time

Edited June 13, 2017 by Norell

[Visovics 1,675]

1 hour ago, Norell said:

OMG for a few hours I thought you are actually going to lynch ovi...

Also, when is the next round? Maybe I'll live a day longer this time

what few hours? I could never find a proper evidence against him, and the only reason I didn't die quickly is because Ghost was trying to very hard believe in me, other than that it was pure mistakes and panic on last day

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

No lynching has not sense if it means not discussion and with a previous idea of not lynching there won't be discussion. That is cause I am with Onidsen and PT about the threat of the hammer. 

Pushing hard for a lynching could be discussed as Thruthiness pointed about the statistics and let power roles work. 

But in a game where everything has a double reading. Everything could work perfectly. The thing is being able to sell the idea. 

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

3 minutes ago, Visovics said:

what few hours? I could never find a proper evidence against him, and the only reason I didn't die quickly is because Ghost was trying to very hard believe in me, other than that it was pure mistakes and panic on last day

Yeah I really hated being stuck with the deciding vote, so decided to take my time parsing everything you guys (all 3 of you) had posted trying to find incriminating posts. Hence that massive post where I showed all my results. It was essentially me thinking out loud.

As I had initially suspected Onidsen, I was really caught off guard to have me 1:3, rather than me and CNinja:2. So I tried to be as sure as possible. In the end, the thing that really tipped me toward you was the erratic day one behavior and the fact that Tirion never voted you despite claiming he was fine with it. That and he and ovi falling out unnecessarily Day 4.

I was sorely tempted to wait till the last minute to vote, using the time to go over everything again, but when I read those last few comments I realized we wouldn't get anywhere we hadn't already been, and so voted. 

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

it really amazes me how fun this is. 

[JJs Juggernaut 1,843]

16 hours ago, Visovics said:

Special congratulations to @JJs Juggernaut who always had the correct targets!

Well, all except for @Norell. Sorry buddy! Least you weren't a power role.