[Mafia] Village Mos Erdru - COMPLETE

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

6 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Which you started admittedly. You switched 'cause if he was innocent you would be the next target, according to Mad (who died that night, IIRC). 

If Norell was townie I had the same problem. I started the switch as soon as Norell confirmed he was not the voice. I unvoted JJ and I didn't vote Norell cause I wait for the voice to claim. It didn't, I hammered Norell. 

[Visovics 1,675]

6 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

@Visovics - you unvoted ovinomanc3r after agreeing that Onidsen and I were practically townies. . . that only leaves you suspect. What did you hope to achieve?

It' because when I read the whole thread again, there is a pattern of Oni coming up suspect and this being blankly ignored. And it sounds to me like Ovi may not be lying, so until I get certain, I'm not having a vote in anyone's head

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

19 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Nosy Neighbour is a role? I thought was the them as Sheriff. 

Yes, it allows you to see what action the target performed. (According to Google)

6 minutes ago, Visovics said:

It' because when I read the whole thread again, there is a pattern of Oni coming up suspect and this being blankly ignored. And it sounds to me like Ovi may not be lying, so until I get certain, I'm not having a vote in anyone's head

Indeed. I am stuck in a conundrum here. Both you and ovinomanc3r are equally suspicious, both equally plausible.

To let you in on a secret: Before this Day I had resolved to vote to lynch Onidsen, assuming that one of you two would die and CNinja would be aiding me (2 townies for certain vs 2 unknowns, rather than 1 townie vs 3 unknowns). Unfortunately he died and here we are. The only reason I haven't hammered you yet, Vis, is because I have a nagging suspicion that it is Onidsen. As I have said before, he votes and comments in ways that make him say little, appear seldom, yet led the direction on occasion to lynch people. He was hammer-1 on Tirion (you were hammer), and vote#1 on Norell. 

The main thing that has me suspicious of you is that Tirion never voted you, while repeatedly saying he was fine with doing so. The main reason I am not voting Ovinomancr is that Tirion repeatedly tried to cast suspicion on him, and they 'fought' leading to Tirion's death and a hutt set-back, when they so easily could have won.

So. . . @ovinomanc3r any thoughts/suspicions of Onidsen?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

7 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I took that to mean his posts, but OK.

But Thruth was Sheriff (theme) and tracker (role), I am Nosy Neighbour (theme) and watcher (role) and Madaghmire was Major (theme?) and cop (unrevealed role??)

7 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Is it at all possible that there is no messenger playing, i.e. that Biggs is the messenger, and that thus there is only a redirecing hutt left? That would implicate Onidsen as well, if both of you are sure of your roles. . .

@Visovics - you unvoted ovinomanc3r after agreeing that Onidsen and I were practically townies. . . that only leaves you suspect. What did you hope to achieve?

A bit unfair to start to not revealing roles. If both things are true (roles hiden and messages buyers Biggs) then...

BIGGS IS THE HUTT!!!

[Visovics 1,675]

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

BIGGS IS THE HUTT!!!

Fun story: I was going to propose day 1 we lynch biggs, I backed off that idea thinking no one would follow

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

But Thruth was Sheriff (theme) and tracker (role), I am Nosy Neighbour (theme) and watcher (role) and Madaghmire was Mayor (theme?) and cop (unrevealed role??)

A bit unfair to start to not revealing roles. If both things are true (roles hiden and messages buyers Biggs) then...

BIGGS IS THE HUTT!!!

Bold correction.

##vote Biggs 

So, what exactly did you mean by the last bit (italics)?

[Visovics 1,675]

2 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Fun story: I was going to propose day 1 we lynch biggs, I backed off that idea thinking no one would follow

 

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Bold correction.

##vote Biggs 

So, what exactly did you mean by the last bit (italics)?

This may be fun

##vote BiggsIRL

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

8 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

##vote Biggs 

Niebla de Unamuno

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

So what are your thought concerning Onidsen?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

18 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

So. . . @ovinomanc3r any thoughts/suspicions of Onidsen?

My main problem here is, despite the fact that I brought some things from the previous days/nights what I actually did was a logic deduction from what we have today in order to hung the hutt. 

If Onidsen is hutt he sent TWO messages while redirect me or Visovcics, cause then our PM would be all true and we are not lying about what we did. And killed Caribbean. If he was able to redirect and kill and send two messages that us my question:

Why he did not redirect Visovcics to protect Ghost/Caribbean, kill me and two messages saying "Visovcics betrayed his mate" to Ghost and Caribbean and even say he had the same message. Visovics would show guilty at not being to protect me. Even the messages would not be necessary I think. 

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

My main problem here is, despite the fact that I brought some things from the previous days/nights what I actually did was a logic deduction from what we have today in order to hung the hutt. 

If Onidsen is hutt he sent TWO messages while redirect me or Visovcics, cause then our PM would be all true and we are not lying about what we did. And killed Caribbean. If he was able to redirect and kill and send two messages that us my question:

Why he did not redirect Visovcics to protect Ghost/Caribbean, kill me and two messages saying "Visovcics betrayed his mate" to Ghost and Caribbean and even say he had the same message. Visovics would show guilty at not being to protect me. Even the messages would not be necessary I think. 

pERHAPS/ t

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Gah! That Monstrosity!

[Visovics 1,675]

3 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Why he did not redirect Visovcics to protect Ghost/Caribbean, kill me and two messages saying "Visovcics betrayed his mate" to Ghost and Caribbean and even say he had the same message. Visovics would show guilty at not being to protect me. Even the messages would not be necessary I think. 

3 players receiving a message against the only other player would sound too absurd. I also don't think the Hutt can do 3 actions at night like that, would be too overpowered (but again, we only have a 1 shot protective role, and nothing in this village is normal, but that would be a bit too much)

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

I kinda agree with Vis concerning the messages. 3 would be too suspicious. So:

We are currently going in circles. I grow tired of the 'But maybe' arguments that apply to all three of you. So, sorry @Visovics, but I think it best that I end the game. . . 

If you are the hutt, well played!

If @ovinomanc3r is the hutt, very well played

If @Onidsen is the hutt, you, sir, are a God of Mafia.

#vote Visovics

That's hammer, if you're innocent, sorry dude.

@BiggsIRL

[Visovics 1,675]

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I kinda agree with Vis concerning the messages. 3 would be too suspicious. So:

We are currently going in circles. I grow tired of the 'But maybe' arguments that apply to all three of you. So, sorry @Visovics, but I think it best that I end the game. . . 

If you are the hutt, well played!

If @ovinomanc3r is the hutt, very well played

If @Onidsen is the hutt, you, sir, are a God of Mafia.

#vote Visovics

That's hammer, if you're innocent, sorry dude.

@BiggsIRL

So that's hammer? Day's over?

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Just now, Visovics said:

So that's hammer? Day's over?

Yep, sorry.

[Visovics 1,675]

Well played guys!! Can't believe Biggs put 2 hutts and no protective role for you guys!

[Visovics 1,675]

Also, Biggs, what's the point on making me a telepath if I have to visit the person? ;-;

[Visovics 1,675]

Special congratulations to @JJs Juggernaut who always had the correct targets!

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Dang, REALLY? We won???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YIPPEE!!!

Wow. Kudos to you JJ! Sorry I killed you. 

[Visovics 1,675]

I'm still confused on how a noob hutt went from suspect #1 in D1 to trustworthy until the beginning of D4... That was a "close"match

[Visovics 1,675]

Just now, Visovics said:

I'm still confused on how a noob hutt went from suspect #1 in D1 to trustworthy until the beginning of D4... That was a "close"match

By close I mean I didn't die as quickly as JJ

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

People are more inclined to trust a protector. After all, why risk it?

Whereas after Night 3, so many power roles had died, that your role was likely worthless. So people started murmuring. Then there was the whole Tirion never voting you thing. . .

That being said, I mustn't belittle your game! Great job!

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

18 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I'm still confused on how a noob hutt went from suspect #1 in D1 to trustworthy until the beginning of D4... That was a "close"match

Actually you had bad luck.

PT screwed hutts more than townies with his random and let us hung Tirion. 

As I said you were the most limited to kill someone. If we were hung you before Tirion, without a bodyguard Tirion could kill whoever a criss fingers but with a supposed bodyguard me was shielded by your own false claim.

You had a hard night. IMHO your only fail was to say you had the message giving us two messages. It would be better to let Ghost talk and get him lynched but I watched Ghost so that could be your only escape way. However really well played. My congrats. 

[Ardaedhel 10,840]

@GhostofNobodyInParticular 

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