Armada Sliding Scale Graph

[Rune Taq 576]

So I guess I have too much time on my hands. Or I'm just really obsessed with this awesome game. Anyway I put together an actual ship size vs individual ship scale chart so everyone can see the sliding scale for themselves.  I'll post the numbers I used. Please let me know if you think anything seems off. (Ei. Interdictor is estimated as there is no official length out there)

 

Edited February 9, 2018 by Rune Taq
Updated graph

[Rune Taq 576]

BTW the AFMKII is the only ship way outside of the best fit scale curve.  SHOCKER!! I KNOW.

[GiledPallaeon 2,873]

56 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

BTW the AFMKII is the only ship way outside of the best fit scale curve.  SHOCKER!! I KNOW.

I'm actually mildly surprised that it's that far past the curve, but I can't claim to have run the math. Cool chart, thanks a lot.

[Rune Taq 576]

18 minutes ago, GiledPallaeon said:

I'm actually mildly surprised that it's that far past the curve, but I can't claim to have run the math. Cool chart, thanks a lot.

What I found said it was 700 meters. I got the size of the model for someone how measured it with a micrometer. So if the in universe size is off it would shift up or down.  It makes sense to me. It's pretty far off just eyeballing it. 

So like I said if anyone has better Info I want this to be accurate. Thanks for checking it out.

[Forgottenlore 9,838]

The raider is supposed to be exactly the same size as the cr-90 in universe. Are the miniatures really that different in size?

[Blail Blerg 7,585]

I think the raider is slightly longer than cr90.  Some of these errors might ahve to do with what info you got.  

[Admiral Theia 610]

1 hour ago, Rune Taq said:

What I found said it was 700 meters. I got the size of the model for someone how measured it with a micrometer. So if the in universe size is off it would shift up or down.  It makes sense to me. It's pretty far off just eyeballing it. 

So like I said if anyone has better Info I want this to be accurate. Thanks for checking it out.

Would you mind sharing your raw data?

[xanderf 6,778]

Oh, c'mon - a curve plotted that nicely, and nobody has asked it, yet?

Spill the beans - what size is SWM20?  Go ahead, drop a 19km Executor-class ship in there...

[Admiral Theia 610]

That's why I wanted the data, heheh.

[Admiral Theia 610]

If I had to guess I would say 1/12,000-13,000, given the trajectory there.  It'll start to get pretty vertical around the 10.5k mark.  Given that 1/13,000 would put it at 1.4 meters (4.35 feet!), I'd say they'd have to break that.

Edited May 30, 2017 by Admiral Theia
Added more numbers :-)

[Forgottenlore 9,838]

2 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

I think the raider is slightly longer than cr90.  Some of these errors might ahve to do with what info you got.  

The article where FFG introduced the raider they said it was 150m. Which is the same as the cr90. 

Of course, it is possible that they were just rounding to a convenient number, but I'm not aware of any other sources for its size. 

Edited May 30, 2017 by Forgottenlore

[Admiral Theia 610]

Okay, I wasn't too far off (it's been a while since I've played with this stuff).  Plugged in close-ish numbers from the chart, did the log projection curve, and it looks like roughly 1/12,450.  So yeah, way too big for anything but a mantelpiece.

[xanderf 6,778]

40 minutes ago, Admiral Theia said:

Okay, I wasn't too far off (it's been a while since I've played with this stuff).  Plugged in close-ish numbers from the chart, did the log projection curve, and it looks like roughly 1/12,450.  So yeah, way too big for anything but a mantelpiece.

Well, it's what I've always said.  3 foot or bust - no way anything smaller than that would look even remotely plausible.  Nevermind how much higher the stand would have to be over the ISD...

[ThatRobHuman 1,794]

I, too, did the math on this once. My biggest issue was the gladiator because the model was the same size as the nebulon B but shouldn't have been. This led me to believe that the scale isn't determined by length alone, but from some amalgam of length, height, and breadth. I didn't get much farther than thinking about it.

I'm curious what a 7.2k bellator would come out to being on the table.

Edited May 30, 2017 by FoaS
Phones are evil

[svelok 6,487]

5 minutes ago, FoaS said:

I, too, did the math on this once. My biggest issue was the gladiator because the model was the same size as the nebulon B but shouldn't have been. This led me to believe that the scale isn't determined by length alone, but from some amalgam of length, height, and breadth.

I believe we call that "volume". 

5 hours ago, Admiral Theia said:

Okay, I wasn't too far off (it's been a while since I've played with this stuff).  Plugged in close-ish numbers from the chart, did the log projection curve, and it looks like roughly 1/12,450.  So yeah, way too big for anything but a mantelpiece.

Piling onto the request queue, where would a Resurgent Class come out?

At nearly 2x the size of the ISD I'd assumed they'd be on the borderline of too big for Armada (a safe assumption to make since FFG will do whatever they're going to do independent of what I think is going to happen), but now I'm curious.

[Rune Taq 576]

7 hours ago, Admiral Theia said:

Would you mind sharing your raw data?

That's my plan I just didn't have time yesterday. I should have time this evening.

[Rune Taq 576]

9 hours ago, Forgottenlore said:

The raider is supposed to be exactly the same size as the cr-90 in universe. Are the miniatures really that different in size?

Star wars Wiki said CR90 126.68m. But I've seen 150. Is 150 correct? They are similar size in armada. My in universe sizes are just different.

[Rune Taq 576]

6 hours ago, xanderf said:

Oh, c'mon - a curve plotted that nicely, and nobody has asked it, yet?

Spill the beans - what size is SWM20?  Go ahead, drop a 19km Executor-class ship in there...

I am also planning on getting a proposed SSD on there. Don't worry!?

[Rune Taq 576]

29 minutes ago, FoaS said:

I, too, did the math on this once. My biggest issue was the gladiator because the model was the same size as the nebulon B but shouldn't have been. This led me to believe that the scale isn't determined by length alone, but from some amalgam of length, height, and breadth. I didn't get much farther than thinking about it.

I'm curious what a 7.2k bellator would come out to being on the table.

I agree length is not the only factor but it's an approximation that does the job.

[Rune Taq 576]

22 minutes ago, svelok said:

I believe we call that "volume". 

Piling onto the request queue, where would a Resurgent Class come out?

At nearly 2x the size of the ISD I'd assumed they'd be on the borderline of too big for Armada (a safe assumption to make since FFG will do whatever they're going to do independent of what I think is going to happen), but now I'm curious.

I'll work on this also.

[ThatRobHuman 1,794]

27 minutes ago, svelok said:

I believe we call that "volume". 

Could be volume, but my actual thought was using Pythagoras: f = SQRT(L*L + W*W + H*H), or even a weighted ratio between the various dimensions: SQRT(L*L + W*W * 1.25 + H*H*0.75)

[Rune Taq 576]

The CR90 and raider differ in length by like .2 mm... So putting the CR90 at 15 puts it right on top of the raider

[ThatRobHuman 1,794]

hunh: seems like the cutoff between small-medium and medium-large is 750m and 1200m respectively.

[pwnertrainee 52]

6 minutes ago, FoaS said:

hunh: seems like the cutoff between small-medium and medium-large is 750m and 1200m respectively.

That is until the quasar comes out which is a medium ship that's 340m long according to wookiepedia

[ThatRobHuman 1,794]

Just now, pwnertrainee said:

That is until the quasar comes out which is a medium ship that's 340m long according to wookiepedia

Welp *flips table* Didn't realize it was a medium base...