[List] eKylo/eVader (SoR)

[Tbetts94 2,401]

I don't really have a clue on how to build a good deck lol. I've just been playing casually here and there and have traded some stuff here and there too. Would like some advice on my list. Most of the things I have in there are because that's all I really have that's legal, so mostly looking for advice on what to try to trade for. Thanks in advance!

 

eKylo/eVader(SoR)

Battlefield (1)
1 Emperor's Throne Room

Character (2)
1 Darth Vader
1 Kylo Ren

Support (3)
1 It Binds All Things
1 Meditate
2 Power of the Dark Side

Event (15)
1 Aim
1 Block
1 Deflect
1 Disturbance in the Force
1 Doubt
1 High Ground
2 Intimidate
1 Isolation
1 Lightsaber Throw
1 New Orders
2 No Mercy
1 Overconfidence
1 Take Cover
1 The Power of the Force
1 Use The Force

Upgrade (8)
1 Force Lightning
1 Immobilize
1 Infantry Grenades
1 Lightsaber
2 Lightsaber Pike
1 Lure of Power
1 Mind Probe
1 Sith Holocron

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[WonderWAAAGH 7,153]

You probably want to run a couple of Premonitions and a Rise Again. 

[DJRAZZ 56]

Well this is a mono blue so 2 IBATS would be good. Yes these are not the best and most efficient upgrades and events. Check out Star Wars Destiny Deck Builders site for some great builds.

[Kyle Ren 6,817]

I think 2x Force Throw and 2x Force Speed are pretty much auto-include for almost any blue deck.

[Vitalis 1,012]

6 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

Battlefield (1)
1 Emperor's Throne Room

Character (2)
1 Darth Vader
1 Kylo Ren

Support (3)
1 It Binds All Things +1 - you need to draw it in opening hand
1 Meditate
2 Power of the Dark Side -1/2 - you dont have any hard blank characters to make big use of this, plus its 2res to play. 

Event (15)
1 Aim
1 Block
1 Deflect +1 - meta is shooting heavy, and thats the best blue dice removal
1 Disturbance in the Force
1 Doubt
1 High Ground
2 Intimidate
1 Isolation +1 - more dice removal
1 Lightsaber Throw
1 New Orders -1 - do you really want to secure that battlefield so badly? Its not poemaz that looses big chunk of power when you dont have your battlefield. Not bad but you gonna roll so much specials anyway. 
2 No Mercy
1 Overconfidence
1 Take Cover -1 - there are better shield givers in blue
1 The Power of the Force
1 Use The Force

Upgrade (8)
1 Force Lightning
1 Immobilize +1 its rather solid budget card - some dice manipulation, shields for vader and you can swap it for something more powerful later in the game.
1 Infantry Grenades -1 - come on why? Full melee deck and you put grenades in there?
1 Lightsaber +1 - staple in all blue meele
2 Lightsaber Pike
1 Lure of Power
1 Mind Probe
1 Sith Holocron +1 do i have to say why?:)

What i would change. Plus only 8 upgrades in a deck that relies heavy on them. You need at least 12-14 or you will be lacking dice big time. I would add maybe 2xForce Training, you are heavy on specials anyway so why not add this, as a budget addition.

Other than that is looks promising. Kylo gonna be great counter to all Poe/Maz with his special. Other than that in its current iteration it looks a bit slow for current meta - you have no speed ups of any kind, and in meta with Rey, FastHands, Maz, Force Speed, and all that stuff you will find yourself looking at 3 actions in a row from your opponent.  

Cards to look for if you wanna pursue it: Force Speed, Kylo's Lighsaber, second Holo, second Mind Probe, and 2x Force Throw (!).

But again - after some addidions - it can work nicely

 

Edited May 26, 2017 by Vitalis

[Kyle Ren 6,817]

I agree with all the suggestions @Vitalis made! In addition, I'd get rid of the weaker events, especially Aim, Doubt, Disturbance in the Force, and Use the Force and instead go for more dice upgrades. Definitely Force Throw and Force Speed (like I suggested above), but also maybe add another Lure of Power (It's super useful), and the Command Shuttle support (it works very well with these characters).

I would say on the whole, for these characters, target a deck that has at at the very least 12 or so dice upgrades, and I've played them with as many as 24. I would say 16-18 dice is the sweet spot for characters as aggressive as these. You definitely want to be putting a ton of upgrades out there. Don't get me wrong, these guys have good options for events, but events often slow down a deck and aren't really worth it. 

Edited May 26, 2017 by Kieransi

[DJRAZZ 56]

Check out my Baby Vader/Kylo deck on Star Wars Destiny Deck Builders. I just built it but have not tested it but it is very focused and has an explanation on how the deck works.

[Shaadea 258]

drop:

it binds all things - if you don't get it on start hand it's worthless

1 Power of the dark side - it's mostly attractive with lure of power, but other than that there aren't many empty sides on your dice

Aim - this deck should go for melee

Block - meta is ranged, not many melee around

Disturbance in the force - it requires bad roll on your side AND decent or good roll on opponents side to be useful

New orders - while it's nice to have your BF it's not essential, at least not that bad that you add this card

Take Cover - use another immobilize

The Power of the force - I'm not convinced of this card, even in mono blue where you might end up with 3 upgrades when you play it

Force Lightning - again, go for melee

Infantry grenades - same

 

Add:

2 Force Speed - 1 is nice, 2 makes it more likely to get it

2 Vibroknifes - make your damage unblockable

2 Force Illusion - it will buy you at least one more round before your characters start to die

1 Holocron - really

1 Mind Probe

Either Lure of Power or (my favorite here) exchange Lure of Power for 2 Makashi Training (solid card)

 

 

edit: On second thought, you have only "Mind Probe" that really requires Holocron. Either add some "Force Throw" to get more out of Holocron or drop "Mind Probe" and Holocron altogether and go for direct melee and damage. Add "Force Strike" then, maybe "Enrage" to ensure you have Resources when needed, put in another "Lightsaber Throw".

Edited May 26, 2017 by Shaadea

[AlexW 2,902]

13 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

I don't really have a clue on how to build a good deck lol. I've just been playing casually here and there and have traded some stuff here and there too. Would like some advice on my list. Most of the things I have in there are because that's all I really have that's legal, so mostly looking for advice on what to try to trade for. Thanks in advance!

 

eKylo/eVader(SoR)

Battlefield (1)
1 Emperor's Throne Room

Character (2)
1 Darth Vader
1 Kylo Ren

Support (3)
1 It Binds All Things
1 Meditate
2 Power of the Dark Side

Event (15)
1 Aim
1 Block
1 Deflect
1 Disturbance in the Force
1 Doubt
1 High Ground
2 Intimidate
1 Isolation
1 Lightsaber Throw
1 New Orders
2 No Mercy
1 Overconfidence
1 Take Cover
1 The Power of the Force
1 Use The Force

Upgrade (8)
1 Force Lightning
1 Immobilize
1 Infantry Grenades
1 Lightsaber
2 Lightsaber Pike
1 Lure of Power
1 Mind Probe
1 Sith Holocron

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You're getting a lot of recommendations that involve different rarity/cost, so it might be helpful if list of other blue cards that you have or whether or not you are willing to get them.

Edited May 26, 2017 by AlexW

[Tbetts94 2,401]

Thanks everyone! I'll go through and comment on everyone's post and list out what I have later today  

[Stone37 3,353]

Thanks to SoR, mono blue is VERY possible,  fast, and powerful.  Double evil Skywalker is fun.  So is eDooku and eVentress.

[AlexW 2,902]

1 hour ago, Tbetts94 said:

Thanks everyone! I'll go through and comment on everyone's post and list out what I have later today  

Ok, well as someone who has played blue almost exclusively (though mostly Hero), I'll provide a quick couple of thoughts until I see the rest of your possibilities, at least some possibilities of replacement (take with a grain of salt, too because I'm not an expert at this game):

Aim:  Aim is probably OK with some of the upgrades you have in the deck, but I think there are some cards that I'd go with before this since it's not much use if you have one of them and draw it early.

Disturbance:  I like more "certain" control, and blue villain has a lot of good ones to choose from if you have them.

Otherwise, we'll see what you have and that will hopefully help.

[Tbetts94 2,401]

36 minutes ago, AlexW said:

Ok, well as someone who has played blue almost exclusively (though mostly Hero), I'll provide a quick couple of thoughts until I see the rest of your possibilities, at least some possibilities of replacement (take with a grain of salt, too because I'm not an expert at this game):

Aim:  Aim is probably OK with some of the upgrades you have in the deck, but I think there are some cards that I'd go with before this since it's not much use if you have one of them and draw it early.

Disturbance:  I like more "certain" control, and blue villain has a lot of good ones to choose from if you have them.

Otherwise, we'll see what you have and that will hopefully help.

I actually ended up taking out Aim because I pulled a Command Shuttle yesterday   so here's all my extra cards that would be legal for the deck

 

 

Support (1)
1 Resolve

Event (14)
1 Aim
1 All In
1 Block
1 Close Quarters Assault
2 Decisive Blow
1 Dodge
1 Enrage
1 Evade
1 Flank
1 Mind Trick
1 Nowhere to Run
1 Premonitions
1 Swiftness
1 The Price of Failure

Upgrade (1)
1 Ammo Belt

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[Tbetts94 2,401]

16 hours ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

You probably want to run a couple of Premonitions and a Rise Again. 

I actually have a premonition, so I'll throw that in there!

 

10 hours ago, Vitalis said:

What i would change. Plus only 8 upgrades in a deck that relies heavy on them. You need at least 12-14 or you will be lacking dice big time. I would add maybe 2xForce Training, you are heavy on specials anyway so why not add this, as a budget addition.

Other than that is looks promising. Kylo gonna be great counter to all Poe/Maz with his special. Other than that in its current iteration it looks a bit slow for current meta - you have no speed ups of any kind, and in meta with Rey, FastHands, Maz, Force Speed, and all that stuff you will find yourself looking at 3 actions in a row from your opponent.  

Cards to look for if you wanna pursue it: Force Speed, Kylo's Lighsaber, second Holo, second Mind Probe, and 2x Force Throw (!).

But again - after some addidions - it can work nicely

 

Yeah upgrades is what I'm lacking. I'm trying to trade my hero stuff for upgrades when I can. Most of the stuff I have is through trades. I'll look for those cards too! Thanks! Oh and Grenades is in there simply to get more dice cuz I knew I needed at least something ? 

 

 

[Vitalis 1,012]

16 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Yeah upgrades is what I'm lacking. I'm trying to trade my hero stuff for upgrades when I can. Most of the stuff I have is through trades. I'll look for those cards too! Thanks! Oh and Grenades is in there simply to get more dice cuz I knew I needed at least something ? 

Just buy Rey's starter if you wanna play monoblue, lots of goodies there.

And dont include Aim just for 1 Command Shuttle its a waste of card. Also 1 Premonition is useless, unless you have 2 dont include them.

[Tbetts94 2,401]

5 minutes ago, Vitalis said:

Just buy Rey's starter if you wanna play monoblue, lots of goodies there.

And dont include Aim just for 1 Command Shuttle its a waste of card. Also 1 Premonition is useless, unless you have 2 dont include them.

I meant I don't have Aim and I put a Command Shuttle in its place  

[AlexW 2,902]

2 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

I actually ended up taking out Aim because I pulled a Command Shuttle yesterday   so here's all my extra cards that would be legal for the deck

 

 

Support (1)
1 Resolve

Event (14)
1 Aim
1 All In
1 Block
1 Close Quarters Assault
2 Decisive Blow
1 Dodge
1 Enrage
1 Evade
1 Flank
1 Mind Trick
1 Nowhere to Run
1 Premonitions
1 Swiftness
1 The Price of Failure

Upgrade (1)
1 Ammo Belt

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I think that, of that list, the two cards I think are worth including are Swiftness and Enrage.   If command shuttle is your only other dice card, then it's probably worth a shot.   A Hero Starter would get you some other solid cards cards, including Force Throw.  All in is also a solid card that should probably find a way into your deck with the limited selection you have right now.

[ToonzEH 1]

Aim, Block, Doubt, is counter intuitive to No Mercy.  Run all blue if you can or replace No Mercy with something else.  2 cost to add 1 or 2 damage probably not the best choice.  You in general want to hammer your opponent with this card for a huge hit.  Like It's A Trap. I find this combo is not a money earner and wouldn't pay 2 for 2 damage unless it was the 2 needed for a death blow.  Loose the Pikes for good ol sabers with redeploy for cost saving.  People will hammer vader hard.  Unless you roll like a champ he's gonna die most likely and your gonna win with only Kylo.  Enrage is great and helps get that resource when you need it.

[Tbetts94 2,401]

Alright I picked up a Rey starter just now  thanks for all the advice guys!

[Tbetts94 2,401]

So how does this look guys?

 

eKylo/eVader(SoR)

Battlefield (1)
1 Emperor's Throne Room

Character (2)
1 Darth Vader
1 Kylo Ren

Support (3)
1 Command Shuttle
1 It Binds All Things
2 Meditate

Event (14)
1 All In
1 Deflect
1 Disturbance in the Force
1 Enrage
1 High Ground
2 Intimidate
1 Isolation
1 Lightsaber Throw
2 No Mercy
1 Overconfidence
1 Swiftness
1 Take Cover
1 The Power of the Force
1 Use The Force

Upgrade (8)
1 Force Lightning
1 Force Throw
1 Immobilize
2 Lightsaber
2 Lightsaber Pike
1 Lure of Power
1 Mind Probe
1 Sith Holocron

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[Shaadea 258]

well, about the best you can do with the stuff you have. If you want to streamline this deck by buying/trading cards see the suggestions from several people above (all of those would make your deck faster and stronger). Try to get to the point were you have all blue (except for the vibroknives... you really want those 2 vibroknives), your "No Mercy" will be devastating with all blue.

[Tbetts94 2,401]

2 hours ago, Shaadea said:

well, about the best you can do with the stuff you have. If you want to streamline this deck by buying/trading cards see the suggestions from several people above (all of those would make your deck faster and stronger). Try to get to the point were you have all blue (except for the vibroknives... you really want those 2 vibroknives), your "No Mercy" will be devastating with all blue.

Yeah I'll definitely try to trade for those things. I mainly just want the deck to not be embarrassed at a small tournament or casual games lol