thorrk 79 Posted June 13, 2018 Quote The trade-off for Yurt is you also give your opponent 2 Honor as well as losing a dynasty slot for the turn. If your objective is to win by honor how do you care your opponent honor, and no read the card you don't loose a slot for the turn :). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danwarr 234 Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thorrk said: If your objective is to win by honor how do you care your opponent honor, and no read the card you don't loose a slot for the turn :). Oh **** I completely forgot you refill faceup. Either way, doing it as a dynasty action isn't great because you can lose your opportunity to pass. All I can say is that FFG has been actively trying to avoid big Honor gains. It's mostly 1 or 2 at a time unless it's something that interacts with your opponent like Way of the Chrysanthemum. Being able to gain up to 5 Honor for 1 fate, especially in Lion, would be absurdly good. Air Ring + Toturi + that card = 9 honor on one swing. They are trying to not have things like that. Honor apparently wasn't even supposed to be a win condition in the early playtesting stages of the new game. Edited June 13, 2018 by Danwarr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmoozies 1,201 Posted June 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Danwarr said: Oh **** I completely forgot you refill faceup. Either way, doing it as a dynasty action isn't great because you can lose your opportunity to pass. All I can say is that FFG has been actively trying to avoid big Honor gains. It's mostly 1 or 2 at a time unless it's something that interacts with your opponent like Way of the Chrysanthemum. Being able to gain up to 5 Honor for 1 fate, especially in Lion, would be absurdly good. Air Ring + Toturi + that card = 9 honor on one swing. They are trying to not have things like that. Honor apparently wasn't even supposed to be a win condition in the early playtesting stages of the new game. And if the right pieces are in your opening hand (Totrui, Way of the Lion and this card, which is not impossible with aggressive mulliganing) you can bid 1 turn 1 and have a potential first turn win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorrk 79 Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Quote And if the right pieces are in your opening hand (Totrui, Way of the Lion and this card, which is not impossible with aggressive mulliganing) you can bid 1 turn 1 and have a potential first turn win. Well it's not how it works in real life, you can't bid 1 against a 5 and expect to win your conflict after that EZ PZ. At least your opponent will have a lot of ways to interact with that making this ridiculously easy to counter (unlike to Chrysanthemum +yurt+rebuild which can win you the game without your opponent being able to do anything about it). Edited June 14, 2018 by thorrk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 14, 2018 Okay, it's been awhile but I figured I'd contribute something here. I've been pondering over how we might give honor decks a little love without making them too solitaire. Here's a curious bit of honor tech I came up with so far. 1 thorrk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorrk 79 Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) I think you can remove courtesy and the card is perfect. What font did you use for the numbers? Edited June 14, 2018 by thorrk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, thorrk said: I think you can remove courtesy and the card is perfect. What font did you use for the numbers? It's called "WC Mano Negra Bta". Got the name from a pinned post over on the L5R Discord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 14, 2018 How about changing Sincerity for other Keyword? “Justice (when this character leaves play, gain 1 honor)” That way, you still have some honor gain even if he’s discarded before or during conflicts, or if you haven’t claimed any rings this round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BayushiFugu 144 Posted June 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Tabris2k said: How about changing Sincerity for other Keyword? “Justice (when this character leaves play, gain 1 honor)” That way, you still have some honor gain even if he’s discarded before or during conflicts, or if you haven’t claimed any rings this round. If you read my ideas for clan packs, you will see I used Honesty (the tenant) to mean gain 1 honor when a character leaves play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 14, 2018 2 hours ago, BayushiFugu said: If you read my ideas for clan packs, you will see I used Honesty (the tenant) to mean gain 1 honor when a character leaves play. I created a threat a while back talking about this, I think it was last year. There were pretty cool ideas there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonbo Karasu 2,027 Posted June 14, 2018 4 hours ago, BayushiFugu said: If you read my ideas for clan packs, you will see I used Honesty (the tenant) to mean gain 1 honor when a character leaves play. 1 hour ago, Tabris2k said: I created a threat a while back talking about this, I think it was last year. There were pretty cool ideas there. I'm only sometimes quite as persnickety about spelling, but these two right after one another triggered my pedantry subroutine. Bushido has a number of tenets. A tenant is the person paying rent for your spare bedroom, and a Tennant is 10th Doctor. Now, while I believe @Tabris2k could create a threat, I'm pretty sure you meant a thread in this case. I'll get me coat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 14, 2018 56 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said: Now, while I believe @Tabris2k could create a threat, I'm pretty sure you meant a thread in this case. I'll get me coat... I blame either the autocorrect or that English is not my native language. Probably both. Also, I’m playing a lot of Crab lately, so I’m sure that has something to do with my spelling mistakes. And my tendency to crack with a tetsubo the head of those that keep pointing to said mistakes. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Tabris2k said: And my tendency to crack with a tetsubo the head of those that keep pointing to said mistakes. ? But do you tend to use a Jade Tetsubo, or a Wicked Tetsubo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 15, 2018 And another one, made on request. Yes, it's definitely on a high power curve. Trying to fill the gaping chasm that is meh Phoenix 3 costers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorrk 79 Posted June 15, 2018 Too good as it is. Should be 1/3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BayushiFugu 144 Posted June 15, 2018 Geisha Informant 2 cost Scorpion Conflict Character 1/3 glory 1 Courtier Shinobi When this card enters play, your opponent targets a friendly character he controls - dishonor that character 1 thorrk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BayushiFugu said: Geisha Informant 2 cost Scorpion Conflict Character 1/3 glory 1 Courtier Shinobi When this card enters play, your opponent targets a friendly character he controls - dishonor that character Has the two most relevants traits for Scorpion? Check Has good stats for price? Check Is conflict? Check Has a good ability that plays to Scorpion strength? Check Too OP? Check Edited June 15, 2018 by Tabris2k 1 thorrk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mangod 324 Posted June 15, 2018 Here's a question; has anyone done any cards that reward you for taking them in another Clan? Like a Crane card that rewards you for playing it in Scorpion?Careless Gossip. 2 Cost Crane Conflict Character. 0/2. Glory 1. When Careless Gossip enter play, target characters Political Skill is lowered by 1. If your Clan is Scorpion, the character is dishonored instead. 1 Kaito Kikaze reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Mangod said: Here's a question; has anyone done any cards that reward you for taking them in another Clan? Like a Crane card that rewards you for playing it in Scorpion?Careless Gossip. 2 Cost Crane Conflict Character. 0/2. Glory 1. When Careless Gossip enter play, target characters Political Skill is lowered by 1. If your Clan is Scorpion, the character is dishonored instead. Not aware of anything like this, no. Definitely a very interesting concept. 1 Mangod reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 16, 2018 The cuteness is real. 1 1 Taki and HirumaShigure reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HirumaShigure 518 Posted June 16, 2018 @Kaito Kikaze was this art from a card in Old5R? I'm not familiar with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, HirumaShigure said: @Kaito Kikaze was this art from a card in Old5R? I'm not familiar with it. It may have been, not sure myself. I just happened across it while googling images for inspiration, and knew I had to use it somehow. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kaito Kikaze said: It may have been, not sure myself. I just happened across it while googling images for inspiration, and knew I had to use it somehow. ? It actually is. From a card called exactly the same as yours. I thought you just remade the card for new5R 2 HirumaShigure and Kaito Kikaze reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito Kikaze 1,659 Posted June 16, 2018 Aha! Makes sense, I used the title the art was given on Google. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tabris2k 1,105 Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Kaito Kikaze said: Aha! Makes sense, I used the title the art was given on Google. Well, to be fair, I prefer the old version. I mean, +2 MIL and Sincerity in an attachment is very , very good ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites