Vassal Summer 2017 Tournament

[ThrawnsMightyBrain 6]

14 hours ago, Green Knight said:

Ok ppl, listen up:

@MrScience would really like to join, but he submitted a day too late. Tough luck.

If, however, we can get @tgall - or any other player - to step forward, MrScience will be allowed to join (and those two will be paired round 1).

So, anyone?

 

Yes I will play him

 

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 391/400

Commander: Admiral Screed

Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
-  Warlord  ( 8  points)
-  Ordnance Experts  ( 4  points)
-  Quad Turbolaser Cannons  ( 10  points)
-  Expanded Launchers  ( 13  points)
= 108 total ship cost

 

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
-  Bomber Command Center  ( 8  points)
= 31 total ship cost

 

[ flagship ] Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
-  Admiral Screed  ( 26  points)
= 49 total ship cost

 

Gladiator II-Class Star Destroyer (62 points)
-  Demolisher  ( 10  points)
-  Agent Kallus  ( 3  points)
-  Ruthless Strategists  ( 4  points)
-  Engine Techs  ( 8  points)
-  Assault Proton Torpedoes  ( 5  points)
= 92 total ship cost

 

1 Dengar ( 20 points)
1 Gamma Squadron ( 10 points)
1 Captain Jonus ( 16 points)

1 Major Rhymer ( 16 points)

3 TIE Bomber Squadrons ( 27 points)
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons ( 22 points)

 

The OBJECTIVES are SECRET and will be sent by PERSONAL MESSAGE.

[ThrawnsMightyBrain 6]

PS - if anyone who signed up EARLIER is stepping up that is cool. I wont want a place unless there is NO ONE to fill in the last gap.

 

[MattShadowlord 1,494]

On 02/05/2017 at 9:21 PM, Tokra said:

 i am making a list already with dangerous values. And his is really high, because of the many ships, high bid and lot of squadrons.

You should definitely post this Tokra, for 3 reasons

• Everyone will be interested
• Everyone will disagree
• You might be right about some of it

[BiggsIRL 6,717]

And one Shara / Gold Squadron Y-Wing!

[Tokra 2,147]

4 hours ago, MattShadowlord said:

You should definitely post this Tokra, for 3 reasons

• Everyone will be interested
• Everyone will disagree
• You might be right about some of it

Well. A dangerous value depends on dangerous for my list from my point of view . There are a lot who will disagree with it, because their point of view is different to mine (this is GOOD and not bad).
And i can only take the list as indicator. It can never reflect the player behind it (who is a great factor, because he could play the list total different to what i thought).

For example: The List from @Green Squadron 3 has a rather low danger value for me. Because there are no squadrons, and cracken does work against squadrons. So there is nothing that can prevent me from doing "my thing". Combined with ships that can die fast against a Demolisher. But this is only the pure list, not the player behind it. A low value does not mean that it is an auto win. But it means that my list has a good chance to win against it, from the view that i would play the list. Because i do not know Greensquadron3 i cannot say how he would play the list. And it might be that he is doing something i could not expect.

On the other hand, the list from @comatose has a rather high dangerous value. Yavaris, hard to kill squadrons and a higher bid than i have, make this list really hard to play against (for my list).

 

I did a forecast in the freshman tournament on all matches. And i was ~80% right about the win/lose ratio (not the score, only who will win) in the EU part. But only ~30% in the NA one. This show as well that the player skill is counting way more than the pure list (and that the NA players are unconventional ). And as well that my prediction for matches might not reflect the pure strengh of the lists, because i have a different view on weighting.

 

Why am i doing this? To lern about lists and ways to play them in ways i have not thought about. To get a feeling about lists and the weakness and strength.

 

And yes, i am already play testing against your list .
This is a big bonus on Vassal Tournaments. You have a lot of time to prepare for the match.

 

[Green Knight 9,731]

1 hour ago, Tokra said:

This is a big bonus on Vassal Tournaments. You have a lot of time to prepare for the match.

It is also very interesting, more so with many contestants, to see what kinds of builds are entered - and what does well and not so well.

[Green Knight 9,731]

11 hours ago, ThrawnsMightyBrain said:

PS - if anyone who signed up EARLIER is stepping up that is cool. I wont want a place unless there is NO ONE to fill in the last gap.

Excellent.

@MrScience have a pairing!

[MattShadowlord 1,494]

5 hours ago, Tokra said:

 

And yes, i am already play testing against your list .
This is a big bonus on Vassal Tournaments. You have a lot of time to prepare for the match.

 

Cool!

Did I win??!!

[itzSteve 612]

20 minutes ago, MattShadowlord said:

 

5 hours ago, Tokra said:

 

And yes, i am already play testing against your list .
This is a big bonus on Vassal Tournaments. You have a lot of time to prepare for the match.

 

Cool!

Did I win??!!

 

Play test or not...no one flies the guppies like the Shadowlord...

[MrScience 13]

12 hours ago, ThrawnsMightyBrain said:

 

Yes I will play him

Yay, thanks! And thank you @Green Knight for allowing it

[Lyraeus 4,759]

Darn too late to join in

[Darth Veggie 995]

Bump, because this thread is much more important and more fun compared to the unpleasantries one has to read elsewhere 

[Green Knight 9,731]

On 5/5/2017 at 1:16 AM, Lyraeus said:

Darn too late to join in

You can join if you want.

You'll be paired with @Dorrin314 since we have a dropout.

[Green Knight 9,731]

My Inbox is full. I need to delete som PMs.

[Lyraeus 4,759]

8 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

You can join if you want.

You'll be paired with @Dorrin314 since we have a dropout.

*looks around in amazement* Me?! Sure! Hmmm where do I submit a list? 

[Green Knight 9,731]

Just now, Lyraeus said:

*looks around in amazement* Me?! Sure! Hmmm where do I submit a list? 

Here. My inbox is full ATM. I need to do housecleaning.

[Green Knight 9,731]

2 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

*looks around in amazement* Me?! Sure! Hmmm where do I submit a list? 

Since you already know you match-up and his list - plz don't build specifically to counter it. Not that I think you will, I just wanted to state the obvious.

[Lyraeus 4,759]

1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

Since you already know you match-up and his list - plz don't build specifically to counter it. Not that I think you will, I just wanted to state the obvious.

Who me? I am just going to run what I will for Store Champs season. I want experience with the list. 

[Lyraeus 4,759]

A slight tweak and voila it is born. 

++ D+O: Death or Liberty (Rebel Fleet) [385pts] ++

 

CR90 Corvette A [71pts]: Turbolaser Reroute Circuits, •General Dodonna

CR90 Corvette A [60pts]: Intel Officer, Turbolaser Reroute Circuits, •Jaina's Light

 

GR-75 Medium Transports [22pts]: Comms Net, •Ahsoka Tano

 

MC30c Scout Frigate [100pts]: Assault Proton Torpedoes, Intel Officer, Ordnance Experts, Turbolaser Reroute Circuits, •Admonition

 

MC80 Star Cruiser [132pts]: Gunnery Team, Intel Officer, Leading Shots, Nav Team, XI7 Turbolasers, •Mon Karren

++ Total: [385pts] ++

[Green Knight 9,731]

The Round 1 matchups have been updated.

The fleet spreadsheet has been updated.

[Lyraeus 4,759]

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I suddenly feel like @Green Knight planned some of this... Just to see if I could something silly... I need a shovel... No one else is going to dig my grave.

[Lyraeus 4,759]

14 hours ago, Green Knight said:

Since you already know you match-up and his list - plz don't build specifically to counter it. Not that I think you will, 

Now knowing what he is playing, I think you had a nice chuckle typing that up... 

Even if I tried I would just lose the tournament. I don't know the counter and I am not JJ. 

Edited May 8, 2017 by Lyraeus

[Lyraeus 4,759]

Well... If @Green Knight actually cleaned his Inbox I would rib him a little about this... Twist of events I guess I can have a bit of fun here. 

 

If, @Dorrin314 and I are able to find a time, I will get to play a version of the world renowned Rieekan's Ace Holes (joy...). 

 

VS a Dodonna the Oppressor variant with an expensive Liberty in it! Woo-hoo! I get to see how well I stand up to the current "hotness"... With an experimental list... (if you can't tell my excitement level is not very high. I expect to be tabled badly) 

 

So, now that all of that has been said, who wants to place predictions on the outcome! How bad do you think this will be? Will it be another @CaribbeanNinja obliterating me like he did with his Clonisher? Or will the tables turn and I will be able to pull something out of nowhere? 

 

[Green Knight 9,731]

Just now, Lyraeus said:

Well... If @Green Knight actually cleaned his Inbox I would rib him a little about this...

Soon...

[Lyraeus 4,759]

16 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Soon...

Haven't you been saying that all weekend