mcworrell 793 Posted March 27, 2017 I may be playing in a tournament and I need some input on two possible lists that I have been toying around with. One is a gun-line and the other I just came up with and have never played. Probably leaning towards the gun-line, but I wanted to get some input. Gun-line: Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 394/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon Navigation Objective: Superior Positions Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points) - Major Derlin ( 7 points) - Flight Controllers ( 6 points) - Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points) = 90 total ship cost MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points) - Foresight ( 8 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) = 94 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Salvation ( 7 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 63 total ship cost [ flagship ] GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Bright Hope ( 2 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Bomber Command Center ( 8 points) = 55 total ship cost 1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points) 1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points) 1 "Dutch" Vander ( 16 points) 1 Wedge Antilles ( 19 points) 2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points) The original idea for this list was a kind of Yavin 4 reunion. I played with it once and had good results, but at the time it was two Guppies (drop the scout). I was borrowing the other gup and won't be able to get my hands on it so, I thought this might work. I feel like my fighters lack intel and as a whole the fleet doesn't really specialize in one area. It should do "OK" verses squad heavy list and "Ok" verses activation list. My second fleet, which I have never used before is: Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 396/400 Commander: General Cracken Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Gunnery Team ( 7 points) - Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points) - Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points) = 96 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 51 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 51 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points) - Admonition ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - H9 Turbolasers ( 8 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 88 total ship cost [ flagship ] GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - General Cracken ( 26 points) - Bright Hope ( 2 points) = 46 total ship cost 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points) 1 X-Wing Squadron ( 13 points) 1 YT-1300 ( 13 points) With 5 activations it should do OK, and the Biggs/Jan ball should be able to hold its own for as long as I need it to. Major drawback is the lack of familiarity. I have never used Cracken before, but he does seem straight forward...just go fast. Any thoughts or input would be greatly appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EbonHawk 1,103 Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) If going Dodonna not taking APTs on the MC30 is a crime.. 5 pts leaves 3pts left. Drop Dutch for Nora whos 1pt more and affects all bombers to give them a buff against ships. We now have 1 pt left overall. Drop jan and upgrade her to LUKE SKYWALKER for the last 1 pt.... reasons why: 1. Luke works like a dream with Dodonna 2. Luke has 2 braces like Jan and can also proc with biggs for his effect. (I run the biggs ride as my main ball now and luke is more valuable than 400. 3. Luke gets Nora's crit ability as well Finally swap 1 X-wing for a YT-1300 it has escort and can easily be flown within distance 1 of biggs, use this as biggs main damage dump as it benefits from 7 hull. They're both 13 pts but the YT wins with 2 extra hull for the damage sponge Edited March 27, 2017 by EbonHawk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parkdaddy 626 Posted March 27, 2017 I was going to suggest Ackbar for the gun line. Since you don't have Yavaaris or Rieekan, you could save some points by running generics instead of Aces (keeping Jan/Biggs). And the YT is good with Biggs, but he has fast ships. The YT is not so fast. The AF also much prefers ECM, but blast doors is good insurance against ramming, especially if you're trying to stay at range from your opponent. It's just going to hurt really bad against MC30s as far as I can tell the Cracken list is perfect, but I'd suggest sticking with what you know for tournament play Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EbonHawk 1,103 Posted March 27, 2017 if you keep the YT distance one behind biggs and all other escorts distance one in front the YTs speed never matters, I run two of them 1 Parkdaddy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcworrell 793 Posted March 27, 2017 Thanks guys...I'm going to have to mess with some stuff and see what i can do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,080 Posted March 27, 2017 Cracken is fun, and annoys the crap out of opponents who aren't used to have all their shots obstructed. Running speed 3 and + all the time is hard sometimes, so there are occasions where it's better to start slow and speed up as you're about to get shot. But, he works super well with ships who want to stay at range and pepper with red dice, that's why my own list uses 2 CR90s and 2 MC30s, but yours is just as good IMO. AFs can go speed 3 without too much issue, although there might be a round or 2 where you want to go slower for the first few shots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,080 Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) that's my own list that I'll probably use next time. Once the MC30s do their black range pass, they'll act as expensive version of arquittens with enhanced armament. Cracken list #3 Author: Vhailor Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 391/400 Commander: General Cracken Assault Objective: Blockade Run Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon Navigation Objective: Solar Corona [ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - General Cracken ( 26 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 77 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 51 total ship cost MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 94 total ship cost MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 94 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 20 total ship cost 1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points) 1 Shara Bey ( 17 points) 2 A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points) Edited March 27, 2017 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
