Will we see these as playable species?

[Richardbuxton 7,319]

Many people would say Droids shouldn't be playable since they are so mono task focused, yet they are. PC's are the exception to the norm, they are unique individuals who rise up above the rest to be great... unless your playing Grimdark Warhammer. 

[Aetrion 441]

I'm just saying that lore wise it makes very little sense for Ewoks to ever show up outside of Endor during the rebellion era, simply because Endor is so far off the beaten path that you can hide a Deathstar construction project there and the Ewoks have no way to leave on their own accord.

[Kael 1,865]

On 3/7/2017 at 2:05 AM, Bluhfer said:

Ewoks?

Why?

 

On 3/7/2017 at 2:05 AM, Bluhfer said:

Jawas?

I'm not sure we'd see them in F&D. They don't really fit the Force theme. Honestly if we don't see them in Fully Operational I have some serious doubts that they'll show up at all.

 

On 3/7/2017 at 2:05 AM, Bluhfer said:

Yoda's races? 

No. We don't even know the name of the race and I find it unlikely that we ever will. 

 

On 3/8/2017 at 6:52 PM, HappyDaze said:

I want to see Gammorreans

You know I am honestly surprised they haven't been featured yet.  I often wonder why they didn't make an apperance in Lords of Nal Hutta. 

[HappyDaze 10,108]

2 hours ago, Aetrion said:

I'm just saying that lore wise it makes very little sense for Ewoks to ever show up outside of Endor during the rebellion era, simply because Endor is so far off the beaten path that you can hide a Deathstar construction project there and the Ewoks have no way to leave on their own accord.

Hey now, Endor's Sanctuary Moon and its Ewoks were featured in three Star Wars movies.

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

We've had a number of other species that only made a single appearance as background characters in the films get a full species write-up, so that's not really a reason to discount including Ewoks and Jawas, both of which have had plenty of Legends fluff printed about them, more so than some of the thus-far published species.

Jawas I see being more likely to show up in an EotE sourcebook, perhaps one dealing with notable worlds of the Outer Rim.

As for Ewoks not being suitable for the FaD line, I'd like to point out the Muun, who apart from a single individual whose only real relevance was as a backstory element to the Rebellion Era's top villain, had no real connection to the Force, yet were included in the Sentinel career sourcebook.  And there is Legends lore of Ewoks having a shamanistic tradition, which to my mind would make them a viable candidate for the Mystic career sourcebook.

[Blackbird888 4,110]

The only thing I would say would limit the Ewoks is the game's setting between ANH and ESB. I think they may be included only if they decide to expand into a 'post-RotJ' era book or something. Otherwise, I'd say a location sourcebook of some kind, probably AoR, but it would be kind of hand-wavey.

The Jawas, despite what we see, have actually migrated beyond Tatooine to a degree, including in material from FFG, so they are something of a migrant species. Also, Blizz is awesome. Anyway, I'm in the camp of a "Shadowport Sourcebook" that could include Jawas and Gamorreans.

Yoda's species is an absolute no. Lucas always intended them to be mysterious, and I doubt that will change. Personally, I hope we never see them.

[rogue_09 443]

Here's something I've always wondered about Ewoks. Maybe this has been answered somewhere beyond my EU purview: Upon interacting with the tribe, Threepio says they speak a rather primitive dialect. I take this to mean he has the Ewok language stored as one of his 6m forms of communication, but this tribe is more primitive than most. He's not surprised to see Ewoks, he's surprised by their lack of advancement.

Does this mean:

A) Endor has been scouted and Ewoks encountered and studied enough to have full record of their language? Enough so that the rest of the moon has more advanced communities?

B) Ewoks exist in the wider galaxy, but this is a random tribe that ended up on Endor, developing at a slower pace than the rest of their species?

C) The Ewok language happens to be similar to another species, albeit with a primitive dialect.

[kaosoe 7,573]

1 hour ago, rogue_09 said:

C) The Ewok language happens to be similar to another species, albeit with a primitive dialect.

This was always my assumption.

[SEApocalypse 4,443]

C) sounds likely, but A) is as far as I know as well the case. The Ewoks never got a senate seat, but they were in the senate's database of sentient species and within republican territory. Similar how the Talz seem to be handled after their discovery during the clone wars. 

[Kael 1,865]

Just now, SEApocalypse said:

C) sounds likely, but A) is as far as I know as well the case. The Ewoks never got a senate seat, but they were in the senate's database of sentient species and within republican territory. Similar how the Talz seem to be handled after their discovery during the clone wars. 

 

So are you suggesting that FFG only gives stats for species that have a Senate seat? If so that explains why we haven't seen Jawas yet. 

[SEApocalypse 4,443]

1 hour ago, Kael said:

So are you suggesting that FFG only gives stats for species that have a Senate seat? If so that explains why we haven't seen Jawas yet. 

WTF?!? 

[penpenpen 1,748]

I'm leaning towards excluding Jawas as a playable species. The thing is, we have no idea what a jawa looks like under the robes, and I doubt Lucasfilm will ever show us, as it would de-mystify them. To me, that makes them more or less unplayable as a PC. Of course, if you have them as NPCs there's always the risk that some player has his character yank their hoods down and demand that the GM describes what's underneath, but such players should be informed in no uncertain terms that they're being a huge Richard.

[HappyDaze 10,108]

3 hours ago, penpenpen said:

I'm leaning towards excluding Jawas as a playable species. The thing is, we have no idea what a jawa looks like under the robes, and I doubt Lucasfilm will ever show us, as it would de-mystify them. To me, that makes them more or less unplayable as a PC. Of course, if you have them as NPCs there's always the risk that some player has his character yank their hoods down and demand that the GM describes what's underneath, but such players should be informed in no uncertain terms that they're being a huge Richard.

No one is supposed to know much about the Ganks, but they are playable.

[Nytwyng 5,759]

19 hours ago, rogue_09 said:

Here's something I've always wondered about Ewoks. Maybe this has been answered somewhere beyond my EU purview: Upon interacting with the tribe, Threepio says they speak a rather primitive dialect. I take this to mean he has the Ewok language stored as one of his 6m forms of communication, but this tribe is more primitive than most. He's not surprised to see Ewoks, he's surprised by their lack of advancement.

Does this mean:

A) Endor has been scouted and Ewoks encountered and studied enough to have full record of their language? Enough so that the rest of the moon has more advanced communities?

B) Ewoks exist in the wider galaxy, but this is a random tribe that ended up on Endor, developing at a slower pace than the rest of their species?

C) The Ewok language happens to be similar to another species, albeit with a primitive dialect.

Regarding "A," the (now Legends) Illustrated Star Wars Universe, as I recall, had a section on Endor, written under the premise of being a scouting report on the planet.

[kaosoe 7,573]

6 hours ago, penpenpen said:

I'm leaning towards excluding Jawas as a playable species. The thing is, we have no idea what a jawa looks like under the robes, and I doubt Lucasfilm will ever show us, as it would de-mystify them. To me, that makes them more or less unplayable as a PC. Of course, if you have them as NPCs there's always the risk that some player has his character yank their hoods down and demand that the GM describes what's underneath, but such players should be informed in no uncertain terms that they're being a huge Richard.

Legends has them looking like rat-like creatures. I think that was mentioned in the novelization of ANH.

[penpenpen 1,748]

3 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

No one is supposed to know much about the Ganks, but they are playable.

I probably wouldn't have made that call, but still, the Ganks are fairly obscure and hardly the iconic race Jawas are. I consider myself fairly geeked out as far as Star Wars goes (read a few dozen novels and a ton of comics, played SW RPGs since the late 80s) but I can't recall hearing of the Ganks once until they popped up in FFG Star Wars.
 

[ASCI Blue 129]

Yoda is a Jawa!!!! So was that one dude who is in KOTOR!! Notice you never see Yoda and Jawas in the same place at the same time right? Cause they would recognize them as one of their own!!!

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

On 3/10/2017 at 1:36 PM, kaosoe said:

This was always my assumption.

Likewise.

While Threepio may have called it a "dialect," it'd probably be more accurate to say that the Ewoks' chatter matched up closely enough with several other languages in his database that he was able to make a pretty good go of translating their speech.  The more he communicated with them, the more Threepio could nail down the idiosyncrasies of this particular "dialect" until he was fully fluent in their speech.

As an amusing notion, it's possible that Threepio even introduced a couple of new words and concepts into the Ewok's language in the process, especially during 'story hour' with the tribal elders.

[Bluhfer 12]

I just don't see a big enough reason to leave ewoks and jawas out.. the more playable species the better the game. Thats all I'm saying. 

 

Also.. it would be funny/horrifying to see an Ewok and or a jawa sith.. lol  

Add them.. that's my vote. 

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

13 minutes ago, Bluhfer said:

I just don't see a big enough reason to leave ewoks and jawas out.. the more playable species the better the game. Thats all I'm saying. 

 

Also.. it would be funny/horrifying to see an Ewok and or a jawa sith.. lol  

Add them.. that's my vote. 

Nah... Ewok Marauder

#fearthesmols

[Bluhfer 12]

4 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Nah... Ewok Marauder

#fearthesmols

Lol, I would go ......

Ewok diplomat agitator

(Back story) 

He is tired of what the Empire did to thier world and how the rebels got them into the fight. So he is fighting for his Ewok brothers and sisters To make a change for his race and to claim a spot in Senate. (shaman clothing on)

I would try other careers as well .. just this one would be a funny one.

i can dream..... 

Edited March 12, 2017 by Bluhfer

[Kael 1,865]

6 minutes ago, Bluhfer said:

He is tired of what the Empire did to thier world and how the rebels got them into the fight. So he is fighting for his Ewok brothers and sisters To make a change for his race and to claim a spot in Senate. (shaman clothing on)

 

A seat on the Senate? Ewoks post RotJ have bigger concerns than senate seats. Namely the fact that the destruction of the Death Star over their world would have been an extinction level event. Which may explain why we have no stats.

 

[Bluhfer 12]

They would have had to know that the destruction of the Death star would kill the moon

what rebels just said.. meh.. they are a dumb race let them die? I would like to think that the rebels were not that Ignorant to  know the aftermath of their actions.. So i would like to believe they were saving them while they were fighting the death star... makes alot more Sense..

 

Still would like to see them in FFG RPG game.

Ewoks FTw

[Kael 1,865]

1 minute ago, Bluhfer said:

So i would like to believe they were saving them while they were fighting the death star... makes alot more Sense..

Not possible to be honest. They didn't know the Ewoks were there before the battle. They would be too busy during the battle to formulate a rescue plan. And as the video highlights the planet would have been set to a near instant fire. So even if the Rebels were inclined to do something about it, it makes a lot of sense that they couldn't.  Remember the battle doesn't exactly stop after the Death Star explodes. To mount a rescue operation the fleet would have had to know that there was an indigenous race in need of saving. 

I think the death of Ewoks and the Endor moon is a small price to pay for the freedom of the galaxy!

[Bluhfer 12]

its a fantasy movie anywho.. and it didnt have them dying in movie did it??..So science/physics really can't be used in a fantasy movie.  So they Live! 

 

I just want them badly in the RPG game

Edited March 12, 2017 by Bluhfer