Gibbilo 248 Posted March 6, 2017 wtf?!?!?!? At least turn him into rebel /x7.....seeing how we hard errat'd so much text already..... 6 nitrobenz, Parakitor, Punning Pundit and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panzeh 948 Posted March 6, 2017 There's a lot of bad upgrades in this game, you're not going to see them all brought up. 1 Karhedron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ailowynn 1,723 Posted March 6, 2017 There's like five broken builds, tops. On the other hand, there's probably 50+ underpowered cards; much easier to beef everththkbg that needs a nerf than buff everything that needs a buff. 1 nitrobenz reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engine25 2,910 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) They will almost never touch cards that are known to be weak. In fact, they have even more rarely altered card text to make a card better. They have occasionally changed some interactions that resulted in cards improving here or there, but do not expect them to take a card and directly improve its text. Edited March 6, 2017 by Engine25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuego Estelar 401 Posted March 6, 2017 Time to go back to my loved 6 Zs, Torkix Mul list. 3 Punning Pundit, 4fox100 and balindamood reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,742 Posted March 6, 2017 This one weird trick to make Horton great. 2 Gibbilo and GrimmyV reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,742 Posted March 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Engine25 said: They will almost never touch cards that are known to be weak. In fact, they have never altered card text to make a card better. Heavy Scyk title says hello. Also Proximity Mines didn't used to detonate if the manuver template overlapped, but the ship base did not. It's super rare, but it does happen. 3 Gibbilo, Engine25 and benskywalker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,675 Posted March 6, 2017 Just now, Punning Pundit said: Heavy Scyk title says hello. Also Proximity Mines didn't used to detonate if the manuver template overlapped, but the ship base did not. It's super rare, but it does happen. And Cluster Mines used to do nothing on a crit result, back in the day. 5 4fox100, benskywalker, Engine25 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engine25 2,910 Posted March 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Punning Pundit said: This one weird trick to make Horton great. I've actually had great fun with Horton in Furballs. R2-D6, Wired, TLT. Do a 3-turn on the first round, then have unlimited rerolls on attacks and rerolls on defensive eyeballs. 3 GrimmyV, ObiWonka and Punning Pundit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmswood 2,705 Posted March 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, Engine25 said: They will almost never touch cards that are known to be weak. In fact, they have never altered card text to make a card better. They have occasionally changed some interactions that resulted in cards improving here or there, but do not expect them to ever take a card and directly improve its text. Post-errata Heavy Scyk wants to say hello, but he just ran over some post-errata Cluster Mines (or a post-errata Proximity Mine, if you prefer.) 2 benskywalker and 4fox100 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RayCidivist 270 Posted March 6, 2017 Too be fair, most of us forgot R3 was even a card. 5 benskywalker, Gibbilo, Rydiak and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAC47 1,791 Posted March 6, 2017 Heavy Scyk and cluster mines buff still gives me hope. Come on FFG, make it happen. I have four of the darn things! 1 Gibbilo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,742 Posted March 7, 2017 · R7-T1 E-Wing Expansion Pack Action: Choose an enemy ship at Range 1-2. If you are inside that ship's firing arc, you may acquire a target lock on that ship. Then, you may perform a free boost action. Should now read: · R7-T1 E-Wing Expansion Pack At the start of the combat phase, choose an enemy ship inside your firing arc, you may acquire a target lock on that ship. Then, you may perform a free boost action. Suddenly, low PS Y-Wings would have the ability to get TL and Focus on the same round, enabling them maybe become torpedo boats. Or X-Wings might be more of an actual attack platform. E-Wings would get a lot more maneuverable. 1 TBot reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astech 1,540 Posted March 7, 2017 I'm just glad M9-G8 was clarified for snap shot. Nobody believed me when I told them it should work... Tonight I'm bringing a nerf gun to my league and shooting every Pap, X7, Zuckuss and manaroo I see. 4 ObiWonka, Lobokai, Mattman7306 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karhedron 1,865 Posted March 7, 2017 Those few cards were dominating the top tables at recent tournaments which reduced variety and led to an increase in Netlisting. Nerfing them should allow more variety of builds into the game at the top level which is a good thing. R3 is rubbish but then so are plenty of other cards. The Scyck fix was needed because the entire ship was pretty useless. Cluster Mines seems an odd one out. My guess is that the original print was incorrect and they always intended crits to apply but that is speculation on my part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thespaceinvader 17,438 Posted March 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Punning Pundit said: Heavy Scyk title says hello. Also Proximity Mines didn't used to detonate if the manuver template overlapped, but the ship base did not. It's super rare, but it does happen. Heavy Scyk wasn't a weak card so much as it was a weak SHIP. They touch those all the time. Weak CARDS tend not to get buffs. Expose has been terrible since wave 1 and they haven't touched it. Quite frequently there are new interactions that enliven old cards though - e.g. what's happened with Countermeasures coming back into the meta. R3 probably just remains terrible though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,423 Posted March 7, 2017 FFG as a company has a policy against errata and it's fairly awkward for them to do. The fact that FFG just dropped a quadruple heavy errata on four cards shows they felt it was absolutely necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Procastination 481 Posted March 7, 2017 I can just imagine the absolute **** storm post-faq with Imperial and Scum nerfs alongside Rebel buffs. Actually I think the boards would have been even MORE entertaining if that had happened. 3 Gibbilo, Punning Pundit and Managarmr reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vineheart01 6,401 Posted March 7, 2017 Often nerfing the obviously overused cards causes the lesser cards to pop up. Not saying R3 will magically become awesome as is but a lot of other cards might. Be surprised if they buff any card outside clarifying timing windows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBot 573 Posted March 7, 2017 16 hours ago, Punning Pundit said: · R7-T1 E-Wing Expansion Pack Action: Choose an enemy ship at Range 1-2. If you are inside that ship's firing arc, you may acquire a target lock on that ship. Then, you may perform a free boost action. Should now read: · R7-T1 E-Wing Expansion Pack At the start of the combat phase, choose an enemy ship inside your firing arc, you may acquire a target lock on that ship. Then, you may perform a free boost action. Suddenly, low PS Y-Wings would have the ability to get TL and Focus on the same round, enabling them maybe become torpedo boats. Or X-Wings might be more of an actual attack platform. E-Wings would get a lot more maneuverable. I've ran this before: 32 points - Gold Squadron Y-wing: Bomb loadout, extra munitions, Cluster Mines, R7-T1, Autoblaster Turret, Experimental interface Its pretty fun. You fly into their arc, use R7-T1 to get a target lock and to boost out of their arc, then you drop cluster mines on them with EI. Hopefully after they move you get a TL'd autoblaster turret shot on them. It almost mimics the K-wing advanced slam. Although K-wings are the better platform, I did this because I only own 1 K-wing and wanted a couple bombers in the same list. 1 Punning Pundit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbilo 248 Posted March 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Procastination said: I can just imagine the absolute **** storm post-faq with Imperial and Scum nerfs alongside Rebel buffs. Actually I think the boards would have been even MORE entertaining if that had happened. R3 astromech, x/7 redux: After you perform a speed 1 maneuver, you may assign one focus token to your ship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunarSol 1,287 Posted March 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, Gibbilo said: R3 astromech, x/7 redux: After you perform a speed 1 maneuver, you may assign one focus token to your ship. Also make it the first upgrade to have its cost changed... to -2. 2 Punning Pundit and Gibbilo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,742 Posted March 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Gibbilo said: R3 astromech, x/7 redux: After you perform a speed 1 maneuver, you may assign one focus token to your ship. If it were a 1 or 2 speed manuver, it would be really good on basically every ship that can take it. And wouldn't make Corran or Poe better, as they both vastly prefer regen. 1 Karhedron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kdubb 6,642 Posted March 8, 2017 Man, I would love it if FFG just went errata crazy. There are so many cards that need help. I wouldn't mind 10 extra FAQ pages if it meant dead cards had reason to be used. 2 mkevans80 and ViscerothSWG reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karhedron 1,865 Posted March 8, 2017 In general, weak cards don't get buffed as it is easier to simply release a more effective card. Yes R3 sucks but it doesn't matter too much as there are plenty of good astromechs to choose from. Ships that are weak get buff cards (Chaardan, /x7, /E2 etc). Cluster Mines still seem to be the odd-one-out in getting a straight-up buff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites