RebelDave 582 Posted March 23, 2017 I'll throw my experience into the mix in the interests of shared knowledge. I pre-ordered two copies of the book from two different sites (Gameslore and Element games), both listed at about £21. I've dealt with Gameslore before. This was at the start of December. I ordered two because I expected this book to be in high demand and didn’t want to miss out as some did with Special Modifications. (Which, incidentally, I had a few minor issues getting, but got lucky). I will say at this point, the only other book I had issues with was Nexus of Power, which I didn’t get until well after release. Every other book I have had no issues getting. With all the delays, and the potential of the book never reaching the UK, I had a look about and got some advice from an Australian friend, who suggested I order direct from the US, and suggested both Cool Stuff Inc and Miniatures Market. Miniatures Market didn’t have it in stock, while Cool Stuff Inc did, at a reasonable price; $25 for the book, and $25 for shipping via USPS. Total $50, or £40. Which seems steep, but the only alternative was a US Ebay seller asking £60 (Adjusted). So I ordered one, and crossed my fingers. Then customs got involved, and I received a card saying I owed £15 in customs taxes and handling fees (Royal Mail wanted £8 for not delivering the package, as I opted to collect it). Leaving about £7 in customs taxes. I got hit with this customs tax because the total value of the package exceeded £15. If it had been listed as a GIFT (from one individual to another), that value goes up to £39. Now I don’t know if CoolStuff Inc would have listed it as a Gift, I didn’t ask. If they Could have done that, I would still have had to pay as I had to pay tax on the SHIPPING as well. I don’t know if anyone else had issues with customs or not, I would be interested in hearing if you did or not. Essentially, be careful. And be prepared. While £40 for a single book seems steep, I can afford to pay that, and was prepared to pay that. But ultimately, a book that SHOULD have cost me less than £25, has actually cost me £55. So I am a little peeved, but happy I have the book. However, if this continues, it might cause more issues. As it turns out, Esdevium, are apparently expecting stock at the end of March (As another poster has said). So I am not cancelling my pre-orders (as an experiment to see if this was a one off issue, an ongoing issue, or simply a delay). If they arrive, I will have 2 spare copies I am prepared to sell on for a reasonably price to cover my costs, or at the very least, recoup the cost I paid for the books in the UK. My suggestion based on this, is if you want to get one from America, find a trustworthy friend who resides in the States, ask them to order it, and then ship it to you and list the cost such that you avoid customs tax, and then paypal/transfer them the money. While this is significantly less secure, it could make the books affordable. Blah!! At least now I can look at turning the ships in ND into cards, complete my Gear Lists, and maintain my collection. I will be reserving judgement on FFG and Asmodee until this issue has been proven as a single issue, or an ongoing one. RD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darzil 751 Posted March 23, 2017 Always request books are marked as "Books" on the shipment, as Books are zero tax. It is only if it isn't clear that you'll get taxed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebak 1,049 Posted March 23, 2017 Just got next weeks release sheet through. No Disintegrations IS on it, but is listed as Sold Out, so be sure to check with your FLGS about stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy 192 Posted March 24, 2017 21 hours ago, RebelDave said: Then customs got involved, and I received a card saying I owed £15 in customs taxes and handling fees (Royal Mail wanted £8 for not delivering the package, as I opted to collect it). Leaving about £7 in customs taxes. I got hit with this customs tax because the total value of the package exceeded £15. If it had been listed as a GIFT (from one individual to another), that value goes up to £39. Now I don’t know if CoolStuff Inc would have listed it as a Gift, I didn’t ask. If they Could have done that, I would still have had to pay as I had to pay tax on the SHIPPING as well. We need some sort of transatlantic trade deal to eliminate customs taxes... ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cassaralla 20 Posted March 24, 2017 Definitely out on the 30th but already in minimal availability. I just finally found one I could order . . . but it is the same company that let me down on Endless Vigil so I shall suspend celebrations until it is in my hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumblefish 4 Posted March 27, 2017 Wayland's Forge in Birmingham (Nothing to do with the Waylandgames online seller) have two copies unclaimed which should be arriving in the store tomorrow. I just ordered one and asked how many they had left as so many of you have struggled. Get them while they're hot (and still there), good luck ladies and gentlemen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AceSolo5 359 Posted March 27, 2017 Ok.... Just heard from 365 Games who tell me that they're getting their stock of ND in on 31st March!!! Fingers crossed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebak 1,049 Posted March 27, 2017 I can confirm that Athena Games in Norwich is getting 10 copies, one of which is mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaisergav 47 Posted March 27, 2017 It seems to be in stock and for sale at Gameslore now. 1 Chimpy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferretfur 77 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I got confirmation last night that Gameslore are getting stock in today. Got my dispatch confirmation this afternoon! Edited March 28, 2017 by Ferretfur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy 192 Posted March 28, 2017 I just had dispatch notice from GamesLore :-) What a wait! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanteRotterdam 3,263 Posted March 28, 2017 Still nothing in the Netherlands... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syrath 1,157 Posted March 28, 2017 well Gameslore just advised me of despatch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syrath 1,157 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Well , also showing out of stock Edited March 28, 2017 by syrath Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorWhat 156 Posted March 28, 2017 Got a dispatch from Gameslore too. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cassaralla 20 Posted March 28, 2017 Holy ****, got a dispatch notice for my copy too! Finally! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OddballE8 1,241 Posted March 28, 2017 Still nothing here in Sweden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azanael 22 Posted March 28, 2017 my book will arrive on thursday... here in Germany ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferretfur 77 Posted March 29, 2017 Got my book in the post this morning...finally! Nice to actually have it before our next monthly game day. 1 Chimpy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicoD 282 Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Azanael said: my book will arrive on thursday... here in Germany ^^ Germany here as well. Might I ask wich shop you ordered from? I requested notifications on several but have yet to get a message. *edit* nvm, I just placed my order. Edited March 29, 2017 by RicoD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richardbuxton 7,246 Posted March 29, 2017 Well we haven't seen a reprint show in the feed so this must be original stock... wtf happened to delay it so much for you guys? I wonder if customs somewhere held the container for a month for inspection, which then delayed a boat ride. Very strange it took so long. 1 Chimpy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicoD 282 Posted March 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, Richardbuxton said: Well we haven't seen a reprint show in the feed so this must be original stock... wtf happened to delay it so much for you guys? I wonder if customs somewhere held the container for a month for inspection, which then delayed a boat ride. Very strange it took so long. Beats me. But this is definitely the worst it has been thus far. A couple of weeks tend to be normal, but for ND it was almost two months. Combine that with the fact that german retailers don't tend to carry many copies since the game isn't all that popular over here. I keep checking retailers daily when a new book is in the pipe so I can snag one, but this time around I was about to lose my mind. 1 Chimpy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy 192 Posted March 29, 2017 Mine's arrived!! Yay. Only 3 months delayed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flintlock Jazz 168 Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Got an email from Shiny Games, mine's been dispatched! Would've been nice to have had some explanation or something to let us know what was going on. Edited March 29, 2017 by Flintlock Jazz 3 ExpandingUniverse, Chimpy and kaisergav reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AceSolo5 359 Posted March 29, 2017 Just got the dispatch notice from 365Games.... Can't wait for it now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
