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16 hours ago, Lareg said:

The Jedi also had, at least in Legends, the Right of Denial. This left them unarmed (they had to hand in their lightsabers) and stripped of any authority, Jedi only in name. An even more radical approach was to simply resign from the Order as Count Dooku did ebfore becoming a Sith Lord.  

Right of Denial was something WotC came up with for their Living Force campaign for the sake of those players with Jedi characters that didn't want them to go off fighting in the Clone Wars, as it was either "give up your lightsaber, or your PC gets retired from active play to go fight in the war."

The vast majority of the Jedi that were active during the Clone Wars were raised with a strong sense of loyalty to the Order itself but also the Republic, which was pretty much the bastion of civilization.  Note that the Jedi didn't get actively involved in fighting the Confederacy of Independent Systems until it had become absolutely clear that they were gearing up for war against the Republic.  Apart from Dooku, who was in cahoots with the mastermind behind the whole war scheme, none of the CIS leadership was aware the Republic had a large army waiting in its back pocket.

Having been around for a thousand generations, the Republic had more than once seen corruption, and yet it had endured and rebounded, so the Jedi probably figured that while not perfect, the government of the Republic was better than the alternatives, and so felt an obligation to defend it.

While that degree of loyalty might seem quite odd to your average citizen, bear in mind that a Jedi was brought up in a monastic environment that very strongly encouraged a life of service and hardship in the defense of others.  We as the audience also have the benefit of seeing the puppetmaster behind the whole thing, something the Jedi didn't due to the shroud of the dark side having fallen and thus clouding things to a degree that Master Yoda, the Order's foremost expert on farseeing, couldn't get any sort of picture, fuzzy or otherwise as to what lay on the horizon.

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My first FFG "Jedi" was an attempt to build a character I made for a fanfic. He was a very young boy, as the Clone Wars came near an end. While out with his Master, he was injured, but they were deep in Separatist territory, and without clone support, so she took him to a hospital, under an assumed name. Using money in blind funds, specifically for such an occurrence, he began to convalesce. While he was still on the mend, however, his master got a message saying that a group of Masters had found Grievous, and were going to engage him, to end the war. She left, telling him she wouldn't be gone long, and eventually met up with the task force; they engaged Grievous, but it went "Battle of Hypori" on them, and she perished; her apprentice felt her die. He spent some more time in the hospital, but knew things could go poorly if they started to wonder about his guardian, so he sneaked out. For the next ten years, he lived on the streets, occasionally stowing away on a ship, before he settled down in a town. This leads to a chance meeting, getting involved with a family of trouble, and the story he plays in. He even has to sneak into a crime lord's mansion, and steal back Grievous' set of lightsabers, which contained his, and his Master's. He hides most for "the future", keeps his, and gives his Master's to a friend, whom he is sort of instructing, though he knows he's not really ready to do that. Tacked that on just so I could include "where did your Jedi find their lightsaber?"!

Jaden's survival was mostly like Kaanan's, except he slipped into a more "work on the streets" life. This lasted till he met a Mandalorian girl, who seemed to take an interest in him. In fact, she was a member of a group of Mandalorians, and though she knew that her leader would not have approved, life for them was hard, under the pre-Rebellion Empire, too, and she planned to turn the naive, nice boy over to the Imps, for reward money, after witnessing him accidentally doing something "magic", while she was buying supplies. She changes her mind, but he gets caught, and becomes an Inquisitor's plaything for two years of torture. Eventually, said group of Mandalorians, of all people, break in to steal something else, and come across him. Now with them, he has to decide if he still wants to be a Jedi, even as their beliefs got them eradicated, or if he wants to search these people, r someplace else, for some other sign of his future?

Those are the main two, as I can remember. Both of them "survived Order 66" because the beginning of Edge of the Empire seems to be before there is a Rebellion, so that's where their ages put them. I do agree that, for even Yoda telling Luke there aren't others left, a lot of other "Jedi" do seem to have survived.

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So it the campaign I just came out of, the players were a Jedi Initiate clan sent to a secondary Temple in the last few weeks of the Clone Wars to get some more personalised training from a Jedi who objected to the Clone Wars.

Because they almost accidentally saved the "city" of this planet from a Seperatist ship fleeing the Battle of Kashyyyk, after Order 66 hit and their master died, they were able to get smuggled off world and promptly hid on Nar Shadda.

One of them also offered their services to a Hutt in order to intercept a ship taking a group of infants back to Coruscant.

The closest thing that my current campaign has to Jedi are

1) an Inquisitor, the 31st Brother, who is currently "mentoring" the Force-Sensitives. Former Jedi Initiate who was shunted off to the Service Corps at 18 and never quite forgave the Jedi for that.

2) cameos from the PCs from last year + some of the NPC students, one of whom nearly killed the PCs and got taken out by a self-sacrifice and a thermal detonator.

3) Nar Tsmakah, a somewhat grouchy Neti who was a Jedi prior to and during the New Sith Wars, and had something of an epiphany regarding the Force during the Ruusan thoughtbomb and left/was ejected from the Order (the official records and Nar disagree on this front) and following a teensy tiny scandal involving the political/religious movement they sparked, ended up being banished to the Unknown Regions for a millenia, eventually being rediscovered during the Clone Wars. Sidious let them well enough alone because whilst the Jedi liked to pretend Nar never existed, the Sith were well aware of Nar's reputation during the New Sith Wars.

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Remember that there is a lot of time between Order 66 and New Hope.

Vader continued to hunt the Jedi even after Order 66 was carried out. So, chances are there are some survivors who were able to train some padawans, and maybe those teachers were killed afterwards. I don't think it is impossible, especially when you think how HUGE the galaxy is.

And even if you don't get formal training, you can still have your character learn this stuff on their own. By chance, or by research.

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My character (a Chiss) had been taken in by the Jedi order and had begun training as a Healer.  She was somewhat talented, and was making great progress in her profession.  As the threat of war loomed, her instructors began to train her in combat...specifically as a Soresu Defender...allowing her to become a sort of combat medic.  Her training was nearly complete and she was assigned to a combat unit, but due to the heavy fighting, no military transports were available.  She received passage aboard a tramp freighter headed out on a supplies run, though due to the hurried nature of her shipping out, her name was not recorded in the ships passenger manifest.  During the trip, Order 66 was given.  The freighter was a civilian ship dragooned into military service, was not carrying any clone troopers or (officially) any Jedi, so the ship never received the message.  When she arrived at her posting, the Jedi had been decimated.  Quickly surmising that someone had masterminded the execution of scores of jedi (in the middle of a war and surrounded by what she thought were loyal clone troopers), she immediately went to ground.  Disassembling and selling parts to her lightsaber earned her some cash, and she was able to barter her skills as a medic for passage to various planets.  She keeps a (HEAVILY) encrypted datapad with her, in which she records any information she discovers about 'Order 66'.  She still doesn't know what Order 66 is, specifically, but she has heard it mentioned once or twice.  If any Imperial gets their hands on that datapad, her life is going to get very, very exciting.

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The Canon story of The Last Clone Trooper (Kix) reminded me of a story hook I have used previously; that there must be quite a few lost/imprisoned people in 'Cryo-Cycle Stasis', especially from the Clone War era. I have plans for my current campaign regarding an abandoned "storage" facility were some prisoners were held in stasis until interrogation or experimentation. Set just a few years before the current era none of my players get to play as any potential Jedi they free from Stasis (I'll decide when they come to it) but the PCs can potentially learn from a Jedi Mentor type. It is also a campaign that weaves in relationships to the Church of the Force (remnant Guardians of the Whills) and tracking lost legends; rumours of Luke's path across the galaxy, Kyber mine locations and Jedi relics. I envision any Jedi pulled from Stasis might only be around for a short time. Either sick from the stasis itself or due to some strange experimentation. Or I'll just have them go down against a Nemesis I have in mind.

I am a strong believer in speculation that Star Wars Story Group is creating a basis for Grey Jedi or The Bendu aspects to Force Wielders (now 100% canon we just don't know all the details). Luckily, I doubt the players will be anywhere near asking the questions we don't know in Canon yet. I'd say I have until after December this year, as they are quite happy with finding Holocrons, sabre parts and generally just annoying crime gangs and aiding Resistance missions that watch First Order machinations in Wild Space. We are a monthly group so I have like 10 sessions till Ep8 and any revelations I can work in. If it isn't obvious, I like to work my story as though the events I portray are just 'off camera' to canon events. In my campaign, Luke has been missing for a while, the Resistance is operating 

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My character is a Jedi Shadow, she ended up pissing off some Hutts  by destroying some valuable Sith artifacts and other goods. She was eventually captured by Cad Bane for the bounty they put on her, and she was put into a stasis pod. During the trip back to Hutta they got caught in a skirmish  between the Confederacy and the Rebellion,  the ship was heavily damaged, and they attempted to jettisoned everything on a nearby planet.  However, her stasis pod was jammed in one of the tubes and the ship floated around the outer rim until she was found by an Imperial Convoy. She was then revived around 3 ABY and was able to flee the imperial captures after they in inadvertently opened her stasis pod, she currently has a pretty significant Imperial bounty on her.

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In my group, my character is played as a Miraluka (statted from an Arkanian but played as Miraluka) and so he survived because he was actually a Luka Sene, not a Jedi, and it took longer for the Empire to mount the Purge towards other religions

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You could have a Jedi that spend the last two decades in the stasis offered by a large specimen container hidden in the cloaked smuggling compartment of an indiscreet light freighter. These three components (specimen containers, cloaked smuggling compartments, and light freighters) are all easily available in the game, so it makes you wonder why it never happened in the materials.

Another take is a captured Jedi placed in such a container is lost when such a ship is destroyed. The container with the Jedi survives until it is picked up by a salvage ship many years later.

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My "Jedi" survived by cloaking his connection with the Force and going into hiding following Order 66 and an explosion that ravaged his body and killed his companion. The next 20 years seemed to pass so quickly and his memory is fuzzy, but he managed to make it to a new generation of initiates to teach. Unfortunately, he has been cloaking his Force for so long that he no longer remembers how to access it, but still remembers how to call upon the energy to teach others. 

Or at least that is what he thinks. The "Jedi Master" is actually a Droid Commodore/Instructor that taught younglings creating their first lightsabers (he would later pick up a mechanic-minded specialization) and so was present for decades of lessons on usage of the Force for younglings. He uses Master Instructor to allow actual Force-sensitives to use his knowledge, while Encouraging Words and Field Commander help out his students. He vehemently believes he is the original Jedi whose story he committed to memory, and attributes his mechanical appearance to heavy cybernetics used to repair his injured body.  

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A friend of mine just started running his own campaign. The game is set a year after Revenge of the Sith, so the Great Jedi Purge is in full swing. Two of the players are playing padawans that had survived thanks to their masters sacrificing themselves (Both in very different situations, however). I'm playing someone who is innately strong in the Force, but had been passed over by the Jedi because he was "too old" when they found him. The group has a mentor, who appears to be a Jedi Temple Guard.

Turns out, however, that this "temple guard" was actually a droid from the Jedi Temple that had been damaged in Operation Knightfall, and its memory cores have been scrambled. As a result, it believes itself to be a Jedi Knight. It managed to salvage a Jedi Holocron from the temple and escape, and keeps the Holocron stored in its chest. As a result, whenever one of us Force sensitives reached out in the Force, we sensed a strong Force signature from him, convincing us that he was truly a Jedi. It's been pretty entertaining. (All the details that I know are, of course, player knowledge. Before I joined the game, my friend was bouncing all these ideas off of me, as I'd been his former GM.)

 

For the campaign that I have been running, there are surviving Jedi NPCs (Though I don't plan on them surviving long). The group of Jedi Younglings from The Clone Wars? Well, the reason they had a story arc dedicated to them was because they were originally going to get their own spin-off series. If I'm not mistaken, that series was going to be about their survival of Order 66. I really liked this idea, so in my campaign, they survived the initial purge and have been hiding out. However, my game is still set before A New Hope. My campaign is currently set around the time Season 1 of Rebels ended, with the Inquisitorius still in full swing and actively hunting Jedi survivors. And my players just accidentally revealed the existence of this group of Jedi survivors to the Inquisitors in the last game.

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I had the idea of a jedi group who was seeking out, in secret, sith artifacts on a world that'd unearthed them in a recent excavation. They're specifically trained to handle artifacts and deal with their effects. 

The weapons of the darkside can be potent even in the hands of those not touched by the force and the order has a responsibility to recover this item for safe keeping or destruction. 

So the order sent the team to recover the items in the initial campaign/episode 1 that'd close out with order 66.

I imagine they'd be in relative disguise to keep the profile of their mission low and so when the order occurs they're not only in a location remote enough not to be swarmed and not easily recognised as what they are. 

Id like to enjoy the conflict of wanting to save others or gather strength despite knowing the coming storm. 

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On 1/31/2017 at 4:16 AM, atamajakki said:

I have a lot of weird angst about playing Jedi in the OT era; it feels like if too many folks are running around that aren't named Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda, then the apocalyptic nature of Order 66 feels significantly undermined, to the point where even canon characters like Ahsoka and Kanan strike me as a bit much (to say nothing of Legends). Yet I understand that FaD is not the movies and part of the fun comes from being the star of your own show, so I'm curious to hear what the forum has to say:

How did your Jedi characters (players or NPCs) manage to survive the Empire's purge?

I've been considering two approaches myself: a Sentinel who was embroiled in some sort of intrigue on the Rim when things really hit the fan and had the combination of obscure location and street smarts needed to vanish, and a Consular who rejected the Jedi Order's involvement in the Clone Wars and chose self-exile over following her peers into what she felt was a betrayal of their own ideals., so that she was long gone and no longer Jedi anyway when the clones turned on their generals.

Well, if I recall correctly, in Revenge of the Sith, doesn't Obi-Wan flat out say that he sent out a warning message to all the other surviving members of the Order?  I tried to find a clip of it on youtube, but I got no results.   

If I am remembering right, the very series itself does suggest that others survived, and were told to go into hiding.   So it wouldn't be out of canon to say that your PC is one of those people.

I'm currently playing such a character, though slightly different.   He was a youngling when O66 hit, but thanks to his natural ability as an Iktotchi of precognition, he was  able to avoid the soldiers when they stormed the Temple.    He escaped, thanks to the heroic sacrifice of Zett Jukata (that kid in Revenge who almost escaped with Senator Organa, but went out like a champ), who basically distracted that squad long enough for my PC to escape down another path and into the depths of Coruscant.   Basically he just kept avoiding paths that led him to danger, and due to his small size, was able to sneak into tunnels and air ducts so he didn't get caught.    After that, he basically just lived off the radar in the depths of Coruscant as a street urchin, until the events of the game that have moved him into an active player.

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1 minute ago, HappyDaze said:

Air ducts... Why does it always have to be air ducts?

Because movies :P  

Though if it makes you feel more in-setting.   Convection pipes for anti-gravity ventilation systems.  And other such Star Warsy sounding things.  But you know, given the scale of engineering in Star Wars, especially on the entirely artificial planet that is Coruscant, the idea of having massive air ducts and vent systems to keep air flowing throughout the under levels, and those being big enough, and strong enough to support a 65 pound kid, isn't that far fetched.   Young kids are tiny, and can fit into some of the most amazingly small places.

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I am actually curious if someone can confirm/deny my statement about Revenge of the Sith.  Am I remembering the final bit correctly?  In the scene where Obi and Yoda are talking about how they are going to split up to avoid detection, I could swear that Obi, as he walks into the shot, says he basically just got off the communicator to send out a warning to any surviving members of the Order.  Is that correct?   I don't own Revenge, and barely remember anything about it, other than broad strokes of the plot, and a few scenes here and there.

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30 minutes ago, KungFuFerret said:

doesn't Obi-Wan flat out say that he sent out a warning message to all the other surviving members of the Order?

I think it was in the Rebels cartoon (and also the Kanan comic), but yes. He warns any outlying Jedi to stay hidden and not return to the temple on Coruscant.

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1 hour ago, KungFuFerret said:

I am actually curious if someone can confirm/deny my statement about Revenge of the Sith.  Am I remembering the final bit correctly?  In the scene where Obi and Yoda are talking about how they are going to split up to avoid detection, I could swear that Obi, as he walks into the shot, says he basically just got off the communicator to send out a warning to any surviving members of the Order.  Is that correct?   I don't own Revenge, and barely remember anything about it, other than broad strokes of the plot, and a few scenes here and there.

That's correct.   We actually see the message in Rebels.

Checkout 2:28 on this video

 

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I am solidly confident he does. 

2 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:

I am actually curious if someone can confirm/deny my statement about Revenge of the Sith.  Am I remembering the final bit correctly?  In the scene where Obi and Yoda are talking about how they are going to split up to avoid detection, I could swear that Obi, as he walks into the shot, says he basically just got off the communicator to send out a warning to any surviving members of the Order.  Is that correct?   I don't own Revenge, and barely remember anything about it, other than broad strokes of the plot, and a few scenes here and there.

I am very confident that he does. In the Canon version of things does Vader still go on a murderous rampage? Cleansing the jedi and such? 

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14 minutes ago, Luahk said:

I am solidly confident he does. 

I am very confident that he does. In the Canon version of things does Vader still go on a murderous rampage? Cleansing the jedi and such? 

Yeah others have confirmed my question.  As to yours, I would assume so?  I've seen nothing to suggest the events of the prequel trilogy isn't canon.  So that would suggest his infanticide spree is indeed canon.   But, since we have canon evidence that his purge wasn't 100%, with at least 3...no 4 examples of Jedi surviving (Yoda, Obi, Asohka, Kannen), it's within reasonable possibility for others to have also gone off the radar, and survived.

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OK. So after the prequels jedi are still being mowed down by Vader and Co. I've not watched much of Rebels or the second version of clone wars just enough to get the gist. 

So depending on how much further from 66 you're playing you could very much be worried about Vader finding you/would've heard of him killing folks? 

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26 minutes ago, Luahk said:

I am solidly confident he does. 

I am very confident that he does. In the Canon version of things does Vader still go on a murderous rampage? Cleansing the jedi and such? 

Starting to look that way. In the new Darth Vader comic, Vader has already killed 1 Jedi Master, and it looks like the next one up on the chopping block is Jocasta Nu, the librarian we see in Attack of the Clones. Seems she somehow survived Operation Knightfall.

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