CC list to stop unbeatable (?) Rebel lists

[Undeadguy 5,749]

Firesprays and Rhymer murder MC30s. You'll need quite a few, at least 3, but being able to chase MC30s and having 2 bomber dice really puts a damper on things. And 6 hull means they won't ever die. Focus fire on Admo first, since Foresigtht can reroll both dice. Use squad commands if you try to line up a shot first so you can drain some shields, and maybe even burn a token first. And Firesprays are great at hunting flotillas and CR90s, so it can help with Rieekan.

[Green Knight 9,746]

3 hours ago, Truthiness said:

I'm of this opinion as well. A Rieekan ship is still destroyed. Destroyed ships become scarred. That's clearly how it's meant to be played, rule lawyering aside. Otherwise Rieekan is far too powerful in a CC environment.

It's lame, but it's not rules lawyering. It's simply how the rules are written - judging by the timing it's intentionally written that way.

[Democratus 1,698]

Bombers were, indeed, the key to fighting the Mothma/MC30 list. Enough attacks and you will strip the defense tokens off of a ship.

[stuuk 48]

ah reading about a ramming list brings out the rage. I really hope there's none of that crap at the tournament this weekend. Hate the ramming.

(and yes I know they're about to make it more of 'a thing' with the hammerhead) 

sad face

[Church14 2,495]

I never got the hate for ramming. It punishes the user as well. Counter it with tighter formation flying . Make it difficult or impossible for the 8 CR90s to target a single vessel  

 

Nonetheless, mid-high hull bombers for hitting the Rieekan fleet. Lambdas to get the message out (farther). A decent bomber wing should cripple or destroy a CR90 per turn 

[Ginkapo 9,321]

2 hours ago, stuuk said:

ah reading about a ramming list brings out the rage. I really hope there's none of that crap at the tournament this weekend. Hate the ramming.

(and yes I know they're about to make it more of 'a thing' with the hammerhead) 

sad face

Sheffield store champ? Dont worry I havent introduced CRambo90s there. 

Edited March 20, 2017 by Ginkapo

[stuuk 48]

Yeah Wargames Emporium. I played in the big event last year but haven't been to any of the other events. 

...was it last year...?..

[stuuk 48]

3 hours ago, Church14 said:

I never got the hate for ramming.

For me it's simply that it feels daft. I know Rogue One made it 'more canon' or whatever. 
But, there are several decent games about Roman warfare at sea (and earlier) where ramming was the tactic.
Personally, I want to play a game about far-future ships shooting at each other, not impaling one another in some bizarre corvette swarm.
Plus (back to the old argument..) a corvette hitting an ISD would probably just disintegrate, oh wait Rogue One says not.. (****..)

[Milienius 143]

2 hours ago, stuuk said:

For me it's simply that it feels daft. I know Rogue One made it 'more canon' or whatever. 
But, there are several decent games about Roman warfare at sea (and earlier) where ramming was the tactic.
Personally, I want to play a game about far-future ships shooting at each other, not impaling one another in some bizarre corvette swarm.
Plus (back to the old argument..) a corvette hitting an ISD would probably just disintegrate, oh wait Rogue One says not.. (****..)

In all fairness it was a hammerhead, which is a tougher built ship in universe, coming in at an acute angle  and hitting an ISD that was DISABLED and had no shields or defenses. It also wasn't going full speed. 

[Green Knight 9,746]

The Hammerhead had plot armor.

Most powerful defense there is 

Edited March 21, 2017 by Green Knight

[stuuk 48]

Writer shields. 100% effective.

I remember groaning inwardly at what that meant for armada when I saw it happen.
Still, ramming in-game it is what it is.

But those using ramming tactics as their primary tactic should be killed, painfully.
Or subjected to a no-win situation as the opponent intentionally plays for a 5-5, hugs the board edge, deploys obstacles as a shield and other bs

[Ginkapo 9,321]

4 minutes ago, stuuk said:

Or subjected to a no-win situation as the opponent intentionally plays for a 5-5, hugs the board edge, deploys obstacles as a shield and other bs

CRambo90's are speed 5. Good luck with that

[stuuk 48]

Oh they are fast enough to get there, just not to turn around very much.
On the board edge they'd better be very careful.
And if I deploy in an echelon you will struggle to get through and have less surface area to fight against.

A tactical problem to be sure.

But.. ah collisions. I hate the collision rules. Blocking, fine if we must..
But a billion ton star destroyer does not stop for a corvette. I mean it fits inside the bloody thing.