[JR] Moment of Fate question

[Tvboy 3,529]

Mission Moment of Fate, page 27 of the Jabba's Realm campaign guide. Second to last bullet at the bottom of the middle column reads "The Imperial player no longer receives bonus  [threat] at the end of the each round."

This is confusing because the only mention of bonus threat anywhere else is in the mission briefing which states "At the start of each round other than the first, increase  by the current round." Which clearly is not at the end of the round.

Since standard threat is gained during the status phase, not at the end of the round, is the rule that stops bonus threat from being gained in reference to the start of the round bonus (I think so) and just a typo, or referencing the threat gained during the status phase before the end of the round? 

Edited January 26, 2017 by Tvboy

[neosmagus 623]

I would say it means that starting at the end of the current round, you stop getting bonus threat at the start of each round.  So at the current round you'd still have gotten threat at the start, but no more after that.

It might be worded that way in case the trigger that makes you stop gaining the bonus threat happens during the start of the round, in which case you'd still get the threat that round.

[Tvboy 3,529]

7 minutes ago, neosmagus said:

I would say it means that starting at the end of the current round, you stop getting bonus threat at the start of each round.  So at the current round you'd still have gotten threat at the start, but no more after that.

It might be worded that way in case the trigger that makes you stop gaining the bonus threat happens during the start of the round, in which case you'd still get the threat that round.

It says "at the end of each round", so your interpretation doesn't match what is said in the text. Also this event cannot possibly be triggered at the start of the round, it's triggered by a hero interacting (action) with an objective. 

edit: Sorry, I misquoted the text in my OP and corrected it.

 

Edited January 26, 2017 by Tvboy

[a1bert 4,115]

It means the bonus threat, not the threat gained in the increase threat step of the status phase.

Possibly the bonus threat rule timing has been changed but the other has not been edited to match.

 

[neosmagus 623]

8 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

It says "at the end of each round", so your interpretation doesn't match what is said in the text. Also this event cannot possibly be triggered at the start of the round, it's triggered by a hero interacting (action) with an objective. 

edit: Sorry, I misquoted the text in my OP and corrected it.

 

I don't have Jabba's Realm yet, was only going by what you said in your post.  In that case it sounds like a typo and they'll probably fix it in the FAQ.  Maybe worthwhile sending a rules query so that they have it on their list of stuff to correct.

[a1bert 4,115]

There is only one bonus threat in the mission so it should be pretty clear even now. I don't think it's worth asking - and it will only happen half the time anyway.

 

 

[Tvboy 3,529]

1 hour ago, a1bert said:

There is only one bonus threat in the mission so it should be pretty clear even now. I don't think it's worth asking - and it will only happen half the time anyway.

 

 

Technically there are zero "bonus" threat gains in the mission, the word bonus is only used once in the mission rules in the negative and the word bonus doesn't appear in the RRG, so the mission rules aren't internally consistent, which leads to ambiguity.

Of course I'm nitpicking a bit, I made the same inference of what was being referenced to, but we're rules vets and my point is just that it is not completely obvious what the intent here is and the potential for confusion, especially for less experienced players, should not be casually dismissed out of hand. The consequences of misinterpreting this erroneous rule as referring to the standard threat gain, which many players see as happening at the end of each round, and giving the imperial player zero threat per turn are pretty severe.

hopefully they FAQ this one.