Large ship Barrel roll mod

[MenaceNsobriety 568]

When they decide to make a Modification to add Barrel Roll for large ships how much should it cost? We finally got the small ship version last wave so I would bet it comes eventually. What I couldn't decide is how much it would cost. My initial thought is 4 points like EU but I think boost is much more powerful on a large ship than barrel roll so it could be 3. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Sorry if this thread already exists but I didn't find it. I used the search and everything.

[StriderZessei 860]

I strongly believe they won't. They had to errata the barrel roll rules when the YT-2400 hit [EDIT: apparently that errata came with Expert Handling], and it would be a nightmare to balance, I imagine.

And really, and how many big ships would rather have BR over EU?

Edited January 17, 2017 by StriderZessei

[SabineKey 6,238]

Three or four is what it would probably be. The big question might be due they want YTs to take it and Smuggling Compartments.

Personally, I wish this kind of mod would come out soon per rather than later. I've been playing around with Rey and been wanting a barrel roll over a Boost.

[Cgriffith 815]

Giving Rey a barrel roll could open up numerous new maneuvers, and arc changing options especially if you use PTL; I'd say keeping her and Finn in arc would go up drastically, then add Kanan. 

 

 

Example:

 

Rey (45)

 

Push the Limit (3)

Kanan Jarrus (3)

Finn (5)

Smuggling Compartment (0)

Burnout Slam (1)

HoTR title (1)

 

** new barrell roll mod (1-2)

 

(59-60)

Edited January 17, 2017 by Cgriffith

[MenaceNsobriety 568]

Expert Handling Rey is fun so I completely agree. Sadly EH has been overtaken by Expertise in my favorite Rey build. After the change to the barrel roll rules for large ships I don't really see any balance issues or they would have already errata EH to be small ship only.

[Dr Zoidberg 3,200]

It won't happen.  Letting Large ships have EU was a mistake that should have been errated a long time ago; so I can't see them been giving a BR mod.

[Sparklelord 731]

If they intended to give large base ships the barrel roll action as a mod, they would have done it with Vectored Thrusters.

Making VT "Small ship only" should absolutely be read into as FFG not intending to give barrel rolls to the large base ships in general.

If they wanted to make the cost disparate for small ships vs large, they would have simply added a line to VT, "If this card is equipped to a large ship, increase its squad point cost by X."

[DR4CO 5,719]

It won't happen.  Letting Large ships have EU was a mistake that should have been errated a long time ago; so I can't see them been giving a BR mod.

 

This.

 

Universal large-ship BR is absolutely never going to be a thing, if only because it makes it impossible to give any future large ship native boost.

Edited January 17, 2017 by DR4CO

[MenaceNsobriety 568]

It won't happen.  Letting Large ships have EU was a mistake that should have been errated a long time ago; so I can't see them been giving a BR mod.

 

This.

 

Universal large-ship BR is absolutely never going to be a thing, if only because it makes it impossible to give any future large ship native boost.

Any ship, large or small, with native boost is going to think of Autothursters before ANY other mod. Autothursters are pretty much an autotake at this point for any ship with boost and I don't think giving large ships access to BR is going to change that.

[Dr Zoidberg 3,200]

If they ever gave a Large Ship native boost, I expect you would see an errata at the same time making Autothrusters 'small ship only'.

[That One Guy 2,242]

Well there was Expert Handling... that's the card that made them change the rules on how Large ships Barrel Rolled. Before, they did it just like a small ship.

[DR4CO 5,719]

If they ever gave a Large Ship native boost, I expect you would see an errata at the same time making Autothrusters 'small ship only'.

 

The IG-88s would seem to indicate otherwise.

[BleakSquadron 405]

If they ever gave a Large Ship native boost, I expect you would see an errata at the same time making Autothrusters 'small ship only'.

Edit: Ninja'd

Aggressors.

Edited January 17, 2017 by BleakSquadron

[MenaceNsobriety 568]

We are kind of off the topic. How about I put it this way. How much would a theoretical Mod that gives Large ships Barrel roll cost? Not if you think they will make on or if it is a good idea.

[Cgriffith 815]

We are kind of off the topic. How about I put it this way. How much would a theoretical Mod that gives Large ships Barrel roll cost? Not if you think they will make on or if it is a good idea.

3 points make it a tough decision (flexibilty over cost)

 

For Rey/Finn combo being "in arc" is pivotal BR would help them immensely

Edited January 17, 2017 by Cgriffith

[Dengar5 764]

Only Firesprays should be given barrel roll. They need the help.

 

I mean, the new Upsilon Shuttle has a 1-turn and Boba Fett does not !!

[Dr Zoidberg 3,200]

 

If they ever gave a Large Ship native boost, I expect you would see an errata at the same time making Autothrusters 'small ship only'.

 

The IG-88s would seem to indicate otherwise.

 

Ah, yes; I forgot about them.  I retract my previous statement.

[DagobahDave 1,621]

We are kind of off the topic. How about I put it this way. How much would a theoretical Mod that gives Large ships Barrel roll cost? Not if you think they will make on or if it is a good idea.

 

5 or 6 points. You could get it down to maybe 4 points if it gave you an ion token, like Leebo crew.

[Smaeks 45]

 boost is much more powerful on a large ship than barrel roll so it could be 3. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

 

 

Depends on the situation DUDE. List and so on .

 

Threads like this r ******** and u cant generalize , this is better then this and blablabla,thats bull ...

 

U made another thread about TLT's and why they r under prized .

 

Same story .

 

Do u even x wing bro ?

Edited January 17, 2017 by Smaeks

[mad mandolorian 137]

jango fett should get barrel roll, also i wouldn't be opposed to the falcon getting it too

[Stay On The Leader 5,429]

4pts

[Vineheart01 6,403]

I strongly believe they won't. They had to errata the barrel roll rules when the YT-2400 hit [EDIT: apparently that errata came with Expert Handling], and it would be a nightmare to balance, I imagine.

And really, and how many big ships would rather have BR over EU?

Quite a few.

 

EU is mostly for turning or jumping from R3 to R1, barrelroll is great for side-stepping a rock or getting that arc you juuuust missed. Not to mention a large base moves quite a bit when barrelrolling (forward/backward).

 

Firespray, Iggys, Lancer, Lambda, or Ghost would kill for a barrelroll.

[AwesomeJedi 616]

It won't happen.  Letting Large ships have EU was a mistake that should have been errated a long time ago; so I can't see them been giving a BR mod.

While that may be true, larger ships have larger engines.

[SEApocalypse 4,439]

When they decide to make a Modification to add Barrel Roll for large ships how much should it cost? We finally got the small ship version last wave so I would bet it comes eventually. What I couldn't decide is how much it would cost. My initial thought is 4 points like EU but I think boost is much more powerful on a large ship than barrel roll so it could be 3. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Sorry if this thread already exists but I didn't find it. I used the search and everything.

 

BR for large ship mod? 10 Points at least. And begging three times in a row your opponent for forgiveness for playing such a list. At least there is no large ship with native boost, else you would have dash like ships all over the ... oh IG-2000 ... 

[tortugatron 1,027]

Barrel rolling Lambdas and Decis?  Never going to happen.