DreamsInAnime 0 Posted December 27, 2016 What would happen if the Runner's Stack was emptied? 1. Sorry if this is extremely n00b question. If the Corp's deck (R&D) is empty, the game is over, that is the game's time-limit. I get that. If the Runner's deck (Stack) is empty, he... ? I've checked and I've re-checked, the rulebook, FAQ, this forum, nowhere does it actually say the Runner can re-shuffle his discard (Heap) and start his deck (Stack) over, like in so many other card games? It does not actually say the game is over, either. Am I missing something here? 2. Hypothetically, though it doesn't say so, the Runner would simply not be able to draw cards, play continues? 3. Follow-up: If 2 is a "yes", a Runner could theoretically be "TKO" if his Rig was too trashed (by card effects) or simply inadequate to deal with the ICE (Example: not the right Icebreakers)? 4. Has this ever happened to anyone? ...or am I getting this wrong? No, I've not actually had a game drawn out long enough for this to happen (yet) but I'd rather not have to argue this one at the gaming table! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimwalker 647 Posted December 27, 2016 It's a fine question--the answer is yes, if the runner is decked there is no loss condition, you just keep going with the cards in play. It's a risky tactical situation because you're exactly right that a lost breaker without any recursion could leave you permanently locked out of a server with ETR ice or ice that would inflict unacceptable, unrecoverable damage. It's not terribly common, but it does happen. It's a hard circumstance for a corp to create unless they're winning already, such that the runner has to take an unacceptable risk to avoid losing outright. If the corporation is on 5 points and they Install-advance-advance a card, if you don't go check that card then you're done if it's the winning agenda. If it's an Aggressive Secretary you are going to have a bad time but you don't have a choice, if you don't have other outs. What usually results is the corp rushing out agendas behind a piece of "gear-check" ice or going for a Flatline condition because the runner can't draw more hit points. But like I said above, it's usually the case that if this happens is either #1, the corp has the advantage and is probably going to win anyway, or #2, the runner made some serious mistakes, in which case see #1. What can you do? Play to your outs. If you can still get into R&D, get in there and find the points. If you can get into a remote, keep the threat of Clot alive and wait for agendas to pile up in HQ. If you're locked out of everywhere, you can concede. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites