ozmodon 535 Posted December 13, 2016 I am a long time fan of FFG. I own and have played many of their games. With the ruling on how some cards are played, it looks like a page right out of Magic. I even went as far as to tell some of my long time magic players that and they were like no way. Then I showed them the faq and they were well **** that's the way they want it. I get Magic has been popular but some of the messed up game mechanics are why some of us never played it and long time players are looking for something that isn't so screwed up. I have already spent over $200 dollars on this and am one more sh*tty magic like ruling away from dropping it. So please, I know it sounds hard but just use some common sense. Don't turn this into Magic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottieATF 2,867 Posted December 13, 2016 What exactly are you talkin about? 7 jonboyjon1990, dr00, KryatDragon and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozmodon 535 Posted December 13, 2016 I'm talking about keeping all ages interested in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veritas85 8 Posted December 13, 2016 What exactly are you talkin about? Sound for me that he is talking about FFG should make COMMON cards not worthless like they are at the moment... After three displays you can only use them to throw to garbage... I have already seven of each common card... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Netace 39 Posted December 13, 2016 A quick Guide to constructive criticism or lodgin effective complaints: - Be Specific. What is the problem exactly? - Be Respectful. Swearing and Name calling gets you dismissed out of hand. - Offer a Way Ahead. Having a way to fix the problem shows you have given your critique serious thought. 13 TerrorScream, Darth Sidious, dr00 and 10 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Sidious 15 Posted December 13, 2016 Actually, if you want this game to thrive and grow, being similar to MTG isn't all that bad. MTG is the most successful game of all time in the CCG market and maybe other games too. If this game tries to emulate MTG a little and has even 25% of the success MTG has had it will be a homerun for all of us that enjoy Destiny. If they could get their product to shelves as reliably as Wizards/Hasbro does that would be even better. 2 433 and Jokael reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BattleDroid 17 Posted December 13, 2016 What rulings are you having a problem with? I don't understand what the problem you are having is. 5 Hida77, dr00, 433 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomDouglass 6 Posted December 13, 2016 What exactly are you talkin about? Sound for me that he is talking about FFG should make COMMON cards not worthless like they are at the moment... After three displays you can only use them to throw to garbage... I have already seven of each common card... I actually find the commons very useful; I'm 6 decks in and haven't found a card yet that looks completely unplayable. Compare a pack of Destiny to a pack of MTG and you'll appreciate just how playable Destiny's commons and uncommons are relative to it. 4 VermillionDe, 433, Hida77 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veritas85 8 Posted December 13, 2016 I actually find the commons very useful; I'm 6 decks in and haven't found a card yet that looks completely unplayable. Compare a pack of Destiny to a pack of MTG and you'll appreciate just how playable Destiny's commons and uncommons are relative to it. I was talking about that these cards are trash after second display as you have already each of them. Nobody will trade uncommons against commons and so they are useless if you have already two of each common card! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Landy 296 Posted December 13, 2016 What exactly are you talkin about? Sound for me that he is talking about FFG should make COMMON cards not worthless like they are at the moment... After three displays you can only use them to throw to garbage... I have already seven of each common card... You are exaggerating because you can't get seven of each common with just three displays. 1 433 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottieATF 2,867 Posted December 13, 2016 What exactly are you talkin about? Sound for me that he is talking about FFG should make COMMON cards not worthless like they are at the moment... After three displays you can only use them to throw to garbage... I have already seven of each common card... That doesn't even remotely seem like what the other poster was talking about. Nor is it an issue. Common cards are playable so the only way to make them more valuable would be to have less of them in a pack. Why would that be a good thing? 1 Hida77 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozmodon 535 Posted December 13, 2016 Look at "Let the Wookiee win. It is a prime example of the lack of common sense and Magic like thinking. 1 IceQube MkII reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottieATF 2,867 Posted December 13, 2016 I'm talking about keeping all ages interested in this In what way? What rulings are you talking about? In what way do those rulings prevent all ages from being interested in Destiny? 2 433 and Crabbok reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisWall 966 Posted December 13, 2016 Look at "Let the Wookiee win. It is a prime example of the lack of common sense and Magic like thinking. You're going to have to elaborate. I have no idea why this shows "lack of common sense and Magic like thinking". 3 Smuggler, 433 and Crabbok reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcogent 15 Posted December 13, 2016 I'm talking about keeping all ages interested in this In what way? What rulings are you talking about? In what way do those rulings prevent all ages from being interested in Destiny? This may shed some light: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/235463-let-the-wookiee-win-question-130/#entry2537944 3 Crabbok, dr00 and Brainsaysyes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steves71 18 Posted December 13, 2016 Look at "Let the Wookiee win. It is a prime example of the lack of common sense and Magic like thinking. Is it that your opponent can legally choose the option that has no effect on them, deal damage to exhausted character when non are exhausted. I agree that this ruling makes sense following the wording to the letter, but as a game mechanic it's strange. 1 IceQube MkII reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hida77 951 Posted December 13, 2016 I like how this is really more about him not liking the ruling because he told his daughter it would work the opposite way originally and that was incorrect (based on the link from malcogent). This feels like you are just angry because it's not what you expected or wanted ozmodon. If that's the case, sorry? I guess? FFG can't base rulings on what ozmodon told his daughter. They have to base them on how they want the game to work. And apparently they are comfortable with people being able to choose options that don't have impact. A lot of us long time card players applaud them for this, since it means "Choice" cards are situationally powerful as they should be but do not force a player to take the worst case every time. 2 433 and Darth Landy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brainsaysyes 45 Posted December 13, 2016 Might not be magic, but it sure is *magical* 8 ogboot, JediGeekGirl, Darksbane and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Landy 296 Posted December 13, 2016 I still don't see how that translates to being a "Magic" thing. This is a CCG, and every CCG has rulings/clarifications on how certain effects/abilities function, or were meant to function. 2 IronLichRich and Hida77 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisWall 966 Posted December 13, 2016 Yeah. Totally don't get the common sense or Magic reference. This seems like a pretty standard "player disagrees with ruling and threatens to rage quit" situation. Happens every day. Nothing to see here. If you play a "choose one of two options" cards, make sure that both options will hurt your opponent. Otherwise, the opponent will choose the benign option every time. Seems pretty straightforward. 3 Smuggler, Crabbok and malcogent reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,869 Posted December 13, 2016 Look at "Let the Wookiee win. It is a prime example of the lack of common sense and Magic like thinking. How is this card like Magic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrobaFett 4,209 Posted December 13, 2016 I opened this card on pre-release day, without ever having looked at it before, and my first thought was, "Dang, that's a good card as long as I can play it when both those options exist. Fortunately both conditions are pretty easy to line up." The card seems perfectly common sense to me. But then again, I've never played Magic. Is it a game rooted in common sense too? 3 Crabbok, krzykoopa and 433 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WonderWAAAGH 7,153 Posted December 13, 2016 I'd go so far as to say that Destiny is a game rooted in Magic. 1 Rogue 4 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traxlenak 70 Posted December 13, 2016 "Space Wizards!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowswalker 261 Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Destiny is definitely not Magic. I did not have to fill my deck with uncommon/rare/legendary especially to be competitive. FFG did a great job of making Commons that are needed to make decks competitive. Edited December 13, 2016 by shadowswalker 2 433 and Blue Nova reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
