Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Hey guys, I was looking for an MC80 list that does well in the actual meta, mainly for the reason that it's the only expansion I haven't tried yet and I like the look of the ship a lot. I know it's bit riskier to use in wave 3/4, but I was wondering if a hybrid of carrier/survivable ship with advanced projector would work? If anyone has a list to share, please do it here! edit: I would normally work on a list and post it here, but I'm at work and can't really look at armada warlords... I can sneak in a post here and there though. edit # 2: This is about lists that contains the Non-Liberty MC80. When I made the thread, I simply called it Home One as it was its name in RotJ Edited December 7, 2016 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,833 Posted December 1, 2016 Define "The Meta". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 Define "The Meta". Ahah, good point. Flotillas and heavy bomber formations with lots of activations and deployments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,833 Posted December 1, 2016 Cheap Home One provides anti-flotilla firepower. Now all you have to do is beat bombers and deployments... perhaps at their own game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 here's one attempt. The goal is to use the MC80 as carrier/tank and the other ships to harass/provide support. Home One fleet Author: Vhailor Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 400/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Precision Strike Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Superior Positions [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points)- General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Home One ( 7 points) - Engineering Captain ( 6 points) - Boosted Comms ( 4 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) = 149 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points)- Salvation ( 7 points) - Spinal Armament ( 9 points) = 67 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points)- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 51 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Bright Hope ( 2 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Bomber Command Center ( 8 points) = 35 total ship cost 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 3 X-Wing Squadrons ( 39 points) 4 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 40 points) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 2,250 Posted December 1, 2016 Hey guys, I was looking for an MC80 list that does well in the actual meta, mainly for the reason that it's the only expansion I haven't tried yet and I like the look of the ship a lot. I know it's bit riskier to use in wave 3/4, but I was wondering if a hybrid of carrier/survivable ship with advanced projector would work? If anyone has a list to share, please do it here! edit: I would normally work on a list and post it here, but I'm at work and can't really look at armada warlords... I can sneak in a post here and there though. Are you talking of the generic MC80C/MC80A class as opposed to the liberty type, or do you mean the Home One ship title specifically? If it is just the MC80C/A you wish to include then the MC80C makes a good carrier with Boosted Comms, ECM and Fighter Coordination teams. For a combat role the MC80A is ok but in my view a bit too expensive for just swapping some red for blues and being less of a carrier. The two defensive slots can really take the edge off a large incoming volley but waves of bombers or small ship volleys don't care as much. Defiance is great and cheap on either. Independence is ok for carrier builds but I now use FCTs instead to save points. If it is Home One title then you are probably looking at adding more ship based large volleys to the list such as AFIIBs or MC30s which make good flotilla hunters. In your example list you only benefit twice from Home one as it doesn't effect the MC80 itself. For this reason you are either getting the benefit 4 times but on small ships or 2-3 times but must remember to include a decent squadron force. Flotillas don't really benefit at all so they are Home-One dead weight. Ackbar can make the volleys of your other ships into a decent punch and so get to use the accuracies more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 Hey guys, I was looking for an MC80 list that does well in the actual meta, mainly for the reason that it's the only expansion I haven't tried yet and I like the look of the ship a lot. I know it's bit riskier to use in wave 3/4, but I was wondering if a hybrid of carrier/survivable ship with advanced projector would work? If anyone has a list to share, please do it here! edit: I would normally work on a list and post it here, but I'm at work and can't really look at armada warlords... I can sneak in a post here and there though. Are you talking of the generic MC80C/MC80A class as opposed to the liberty type, or do you mean the Home One ship title specifically? If it is just the MC80C/A you wish to include then the MC80C makes a good carrier with Boosted Comms, ECM and Fighter Coordination teams. For a combat role the MC80A is ok but in my view a bit too expensive for just swapping some red for blues and being less of a carrier. The two defensive slots can really take the edge off a large incoming volley but waves of bombers or small ship volleys don't care as much. Defiance is great and cheap on either. Independence is ok for carrier builds but I now use FCTs instead to save points. If it is Home One title then you are probably looking at adding more ship based large volleys to the list such as AFIIBs or MC30s which make good flotilla hunters. In your example list you only benefit twice from Home one as it doesn't effect the MC80 itself. For this reason you are either getting the benefit 4 times but on small ships or 2-3 times but must remember to include a decent squadron force. Flotillas don't really benefit at all so they are Home-One dead weight. Ackbar can make the volleys of your other ships into a decent punch and so get to use the accuracies more. I really meant the non-liberty MC80. Good arguments... I fitted Home One in there because of the flotillas, but it might not be necessary if I use torpedo frigates instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyBman 1 Posted December 1, 2016 I placed second at the Vancouver regionals with a fully kitted MC80c, 3 TRC90s, Han and 3 2400s with Rieekan. I used Defiance but had a 10 point bid so there was room for HO instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking of a ship heavy fleet with only A-Wings + Tycho as Fighter screen... with this Home One or Defiance could do better. Edited December 1, 2016 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) here's another one! Don't know why, but this one seems like a lot of fun! The Flotilla follows the MC80 around to make sure it survives! Ackbar!! Author: Vhailor Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 400/400 Commander: Admiral Ackbar Assault Objective: Opening Salvo Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points)- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points) - Defiance ( 5 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) = 155 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)- Admonition ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 80 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points) = 72 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Repair Crews ( 4 points) = 22 total ship cost 1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points) 5 A-Wing Squadrons ( 55 points) 4 activations, 7 deployments. Not too bad!! Edited December 1, 2016 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted December 1, 2016 Tried and tested Here comes the B's OOM Author: Ginkapo Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 384/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Superior Positions [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points) - General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Flight Commander ( 3 points) - Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points) - Boosted Comms ( 4 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) = 142 total ship cost Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points) - Yavaris ( 5 points) - Flight Commander ( 3 points) - Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points) = 68 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - Bright Hope ( 2 points) - Leia Organa ( 3 points) - Bomber Command Center ( 8 points) = 31 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - Quantum Storm ( 1 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 28 total ship cost 6 B-Wing Squadrons ( 84 points) 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 1 HWK-290 ( 12 points) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 btw, I know going Ackbar with Torpedo frigate is weird, but I like that TFs give more consistent accuracies and I always rush my MC30s to get in close range anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted December 1, 2016 Enhanced armament... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 Enhanced armament... what do I sacrifice? Remove the flotilla completely? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 Tried and tested Here comes the B's OOM Author: Ginkapo Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 384/400 Commander: General Dodonna Assault Objective: Most Wanted Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Superior Positions [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points) - General Dodonna ( 20 points) - Flight Commander ( 3 points) - Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points) - Boosted Comms ( 4 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) = 142 total ship cost Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points) - Yavaris ( 5 points) - Flight Commander ( 3 points) - Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points) = 68 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - Bright Hope ( 2 points) - Leia Organa ( 3 points) - Bomber Command Center ( 8 points) = 31 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points) - Quantum Storm ( 1 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 28 total ship cost 6 B-Wing Squadrons ( 84 points) 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 1 HWK-290 ( 12 points) I like it. I might wait for wave 5 cause I don't feel like buying another interdictor just for it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted December 1, 2016 Enhanced armament... what do I sacrifice? Remove the flotilla completely? Apts and an awing.... apts only make sense on the double arc. 2 Green Knight and Sybreed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Enhanced armament... what do I sacrifice? Remove the flotilla completely? Apts and an awing.... apts only make sense on the double arc. roger roger. I'll get on that. Edited December 1, 2016 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted December 1, 2016 Aye, i ran that on vassal. It has potential for alteration though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vergilius 2,118 Posted December 1, 2016 Gink's list is a good starting place for B-wings and MC80Cs. I ran something similar in early September to a tournament victory in San Antonio, and I only own one Interdictor. At some point, once you've got the basics of a list covered, it isn't merely about your list but how you fly it. For MC80A, Corvettes are very cheap supporting units, and you want six squadrons that look at anti-squadron first (A-wings, YT2400s, X-wings). The MC80A can be one of the absolute toughest ships in the game to take down, especially if built well to tank. Raymus+Engineering commands+Redundant Shields will regenerate an entire shield facing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Gink's list is a good starting place for B-wings and MC80Cs. I ran something similar in early September to a tournament victory in San Antonio, and I only own one Interdictor. At some point, once you've got the basics of a list covered, it isn't merely about your list but how you fly it. For MC80A, Corvettes are very cheap supporting units, and you want six squadrons that look at anti-squadron first (A-wings, YT2400s, X-wings). The MC80A can be one of the absolute toughest ships in the game to take down, especially if built well to tank. Raymus+Engineering commands+Redundant Shields will regenerate an entire shield facing I'm thinking running the MC80 with the FCT and Flight commander, and Yavaris with boosted comm just to make sure it can double tap the B-Wings that moved further edit: crap, Yavaris can't take boosted comms. Ok, so MC80 takes Adar Talon, Yavaris takes flight commander Edited December 1, 2016 by Sybreed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 Here's the Ackbar list that I modified using Gink's ideas. Probably the final version. Squadrons might be an issue, but hopefully the A-Wings and the command cruiser AA are enough to deal with most threats. Ackbar!! Author: Vhailor Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 400/400 Commander: Admiral Ackbar Assault Objective: Opening Salvo Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points)- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points) - Defiance ( 5 points) - Skilled First Officer ( 1 points) - Advanced Projectors ( 6 points) = 156 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)- Admonition ( 8 points) - Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) = 85 total ship cost MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points) - Enhanced Armament ( 10 points) = 77 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Repair Crews ( 4 points) = 22 total ship cost 1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points) 4 A-Wing Squadrons ( 44 points) 1 Ginkapo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 I'm not sure if Ordnance Experts are still needed, but getting those double hits are probably worth it. I almost felt like going Veteran gunners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sybreed 1,110 Posted December 1, 2016 and now here's another one more similar to what Gink's did. MC 80 + Yavaris Author: Vhailor Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 400/400 Commander: General Rieekan Assault Objective: Precision Strike Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Superior Positions MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points)- Defiance ( 5 points) - Adar Tallon ( 10 points) - Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points) - Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points) = 131 total ship cost Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points)- Yavaris ( 5 points) - Flight Commander ( 3 points) = 65 total ship cost GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Bright Hope ( 2 points) - Toryn Farr ( 7 points) - Bomber Command Center ( 8 points) = 35 total ship cost [ flagship ] GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- General Rieekan ( 30 points) - Comms Net ( 2 points) = 50 total ship cost 1 Keyan Farlander ( 20 points) 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 2 B-Wing Squadrons ( 28 points) 4 X-Wing Squadrons ( 52 points) 1 Ginkapo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church14 2,495 Posted December 3, 2016 I took 2nd at Chicago regionals with MC80 Home One. MC80/Home One/Rieekan 3xTR90 Tycho/Dash/Wedge/Awing Home One is amazing for flotilla busting and durable enough to not go down with sustained focus fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueCommander 236 Posted December 5, 2016 Here's my approach. Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 389/400 Commander: Mon Mothma Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault Navigation Objective: Superior Positions CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 58 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 58 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Intel Officer ( 7 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 58 total ship cost [ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points) - Mon Mothma ( 30 points) - Home One ( 7 points) - Engine Techs ( 8 points) = 151 total ship cost 4 YT-2400s ( 64 points) Fleet created with Armada Warlords Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
