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Just now, Drasnighta said:

Yes and No.  

I mean, I still havn't seen Rogue One.

And I was of the opinion that the Quasar would end up for the Rebels, due to Rebels, after all. :)

 

and none of it confirmation.  Still only supposition. :D

The Hammerhead appeared in Rebels long before it appeared in 'Rogue One'.  Same season as the Quasar Fire-thing, in fact.  (Season 2, episode 10 for the Hammerhead... season 2, episode 14 for the Imperial Light Carrier)

Also: HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE SEEN THE BEST STAR WARS MOVIE PUT TO FILM, YET?!?!

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That's what I'm talking about, though.

 

I saw the Hammerheads in Rebels.  I Saw the Quasar in Rebels - and I even saw the Quasar afterwards a few times, in fact, more time as a Rebel as it has an Imperial - I don't know why people got "Imperial" from that.

(Yes, I'm very Imperial Old school.  I own the old games, a Read a lot of the old books - but I speak current New-Canon only when I'm talking about these things - because *these* are how not only we, but the future Generation of Star Wars Fans see these things - and that view is important.)

Expanding on that a second - that's something we "Old timers" need to be aware of.

We've seen a lot of things in the EU - but that EU is not being presented front-and-center to the Next Generation (I say as I raise a Child).  That Generation is going to be looking at the Prequels, the Series, the Clone Wars, Rebels, and the TFA side of things as "Their" Star Wars, and "Their" star wars is important to view, because that is what is going to be Marketed...  Yes, some parts of the EU will seep back in as its slowly picked up - but tehre will be a point, in this Disney canon, where they Finish Rebels, gone through Aftermath, and will ahve nominally caught up to The Force Awakens, where everything thenw ill either be going forward, or viewing back in time at momentus occasions such as Rogue One, or catching up with "Where they come froms" like Young Han Solo.

The EU is just a legend, until such time as they make it real again.  Like it or not, that's the view we need to live with, because that's the view that's going to be marketed.

 

Amend:
I am a full time Stay-at-home Dad of a Toddler.

A Toddler that somewhat has special needs and thus, can't just rely on "normal" babysitters.

I have a wife that works 12 hours a day, while I stay home.

We are both Star Wars fans.  There's no way one of us could go, without the other, and there's been no opportunity to go without the Toddler, as he doesn't like "Spooky" Dark Cinemas.

Ergo, at this point, the earliest opportunity I can see it may be in April, for my Birthday, if the DVD is released...  Otherwise, as per Canadian Agreement, I'll be waiting until August and see it on Canadian Netflix then.

...  Same as what I did with The Force Awakens.

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Do we have a thread to guess the stats and values of those two ships that seem like pretty much a given at this point?

And who knows, we could always hope for a pipe dream and get another pair of ships to make a 4 ship wave. There are plenty of things they could be being thrown around. Something for Thrawn and Raddus to drive, perhaps.

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41 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Do we have a thread to guess the stats and values of those two ships that seem like pretty much a given at this point?

And who knows, we could always hope for a pipe dream and get another pair of ships to make a 4 ship wave. There are plenty of things they could be being thrown around. Something for Thrawn and Raddus to drive, perhaps.

A single dedicated thread?

1 or 2.

Threads where it just happens to happen?

Another 5 or 6.

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31 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

I could see krennic having a super weapon ability but after he uses it once it becomes tarkins ability.... Hahaha 

Oh and Spoiler Alert!!!

HAH that would be hilarious! 

 

Didn't know this but the class of ship the Lady Luck belongs to is canon again thanks to Rebels. 

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Too many pages to start reading, but here is my hope. 

A) scum fleet, giving us a third faction, made up of bulk cruisers and various clone wars era ships plus a few rebel/imp crossovers like in xwing, same with their fighters, but also cloakshapes and maybe droid fighters. Not likely but it would add variety to the table, especially if mercenary rules were added to allow these ships to appear in the main fleets with special rules.

B) we get all the rebel ships from Rogue One (at least 2 I think, only saw it once) plus a lancer, carrack and strike cruiser for imps, any or all of those would be nice to round out the small and medium options.

C) space stations box set, including a Golan platform, a repair platform and maybe some nice 3d terrain pieces. Add a book on how to use these in games, and the 3d terrain especially for making actual zones you just physically can't move a ship to to force new tactics and thinking. Plus some cool ships of course.

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2 minutes ago, gredert said:

Too many pages to start reading, but here is my hope. 

A) scum fleet, giving us a third faction, made up of bulk cruisers and various clone wars era ships plus a few rebel/imp crossovers like in xwing, same with their fighters, but also cloakshapes and maybe droid fighters. Not likely but it would add variety to the table, especially if mercenary rules were added to allow these ships to appear in the main fleets with special rules.

B) we get all the rebel ships from Rogue One (at least 2 I think, only saw it once) plus a lancer, carrack and strike cruiser for imps, any or all of those would be nice to round out the small and medium options.

C) space stations box set, including a Golan platform, a repair platform and maybe some nice 3d terrain pieces. Add a book on how to use these in games, and the 3d terrain especially for making actual zones you just physically can't move a ship to to force new tactics and thinking. Plus some cool ships of course.

Interesting idea with the space station box.

I don't think we will see scum yet. I think it is likely in the future but i think they will continue to build the rebs and imps for now.

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8 hours ago, Quantum Dot Guy said:

Am I still alone in thinking that ultra-long-range artillery ships would be intriguing?

I would love this and think this is how long range weaponry in Armada should have been, and it would address many oddities. It would help start engagements sooner (great!) and would help with the table management since ships would be more spread out (even greater!).

Snipe and Relay do a good job at spreading the clustering out a little but it could/should have been taken much further.

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19 hours ago, Quantum Dot Guy said:

Am I still alone in thinking that ultra-long-range artillery ships would be intriguing?

This brings back bad memories of artillery 'pogs' in Mechwarrior dark age.

If there are ultra-long range ships they should be relatively low damage, fragile and absolutely not use scatter dice/templates

 

 

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29 minutes ago, D503 said:

This brings back bad memories of artillery 'pogs' in Mechwarrior dark age.

If there are ultra-long range ships they should be relatively low damage, fragile and absolutely not use scatter dice/templates

 

 

Define "relatively". I posted several months ago about a possible implementation of the Broadside-class kdb-1 from Empire at War. The post also detailed a couple possible upgrades. A fully upgraded ship had the ability to perform a single, reduced attack against an enemy ship within distance 1-5 (sensor range) of another friendly ship or two friendly squadrons. In addition, it could forgo standard attacks completely and place a special token anywhere in its attack range (including the previously mentioned upgraded range), up to 3 times per game. This token represented the target of a missile volley, and would detonate (at the beginning or end of the next Ship Phase) in a true area of effect that dealt fairly significant damage to both enemy and friendly units.

 

I agree the ship should be pretty fragile and worthless in direct combat. As in, something a CR90 could confidently handle by itself.

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1 hour ago, D503 said:

This brings back bad memories of artillery 'pogs' in Mechwarrior dark age.

If there are ultra-long range ships they should be relatively low damage, fragile and absolutely not use scatter dice/templates

 

 

The long range middle ships from star wars empire at war would fit this category perfectly.  Broadside cruiser for empire and Marauder cruiser for the rebels. Comes with new dice that have three misses, two hits, two crits and 1 accuracy. These ships were great at attacking fighters when they were ideal.  And ships that were close together as the missiles sprayed an area. I would have two upgrades assisted with the new dice:

You can attack an area with a diameter of distance 2 at ultra long range with three new dice. All fighter squadrons in that area suffer 1 damage for every hit icon.

When you attack a ship at ultra long range if damage is dealt every other ship at close range suffers 1 damage.

Forget hammerhead Corvettes I want ultra long range middle ships.

 

I guess you beat me to the punch Quantum Dot Guy.

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20 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

The long range middle ships from star wars empire at war would fit this category perfectly.  Broadside cruiser for empire and Marauder cruiser for the rebels. Comes with new dice that have three misses, two hits, two crits and 1 accuracy. These ships were great at attacking fighters when they were ideal.  And ships that were close together as the missiles sprayed an area. I would have two upgrades assisted with the new dice:

You can attack an area with a diameter of distance 2 at ultra long range with three new dice. All fighter squadrons in that area suffer 1 damage for every hit icon.

When you attack a ship at ultra long range if damage is dealt every other ship at close range suffers 1 damage.

Forget hammerhead Corvettes I want ultra long range middle ships.

 

I guess you beat me to the punch Quantum Dot Guy.

I actually have a Marauder piece from MelMiniatures, awaiting a proper test run. So far, the Broadside isn't available, but I hope it will be eventually.

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I think it's a great idea to have a ultra long range ship. I think the rules and mechanics of the ship need to be figured out a bit. But it can hello spread out the fighters and I think your token approach is much better for attacking an area with a volley.  

Oooooo what if they put those two ships in a pack together. Like the reb and imp aces in xwing. Then you get all the new rules, dice and other pieces together.

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I would love to see the three un-named rebel classes (two in Return, one in Empire).

Then there are these two other unknown ships in Return of the Jedi:

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The one close to the CR-90 looks like a Dreadnaught and the one in the bottom looks closer to a Bulk Cruiser or something like that.

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So of the current canon ships not present in game are:

Rebels:

   MC-75 

   Brahatok (Dornean) Gunship

   Hammerhead Corvette

   Unidentified Rebel Cruiser 1

   Unidentified Rebel Cruiser 2

   Unidentified Rebel Cruiser 3

   MC-80 Wingless Liberty type

Imperials:  

   Quasar Class Light Carrier

   Imperial Freighter (Pyramid ship from Rebels)

   Executor Class Super Star Destroyer 

   ISD-I 

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On 2/21/2017 at 4:27 PM, Drasnighta said:

I am a full time Stay-at-home Dad of a Toddler.

A Toddler that somewhat has special needs and thus, can't just rely on "normal" babysitters.

I have a wife that works 12 hours a day, while I stay home.

We are both Star Wars fans.  There's no way one of us could go, without the other, and there's been no opportunity to go without the Toddler, as he doesn't like "Spooky" Dark Cinemas.

ASD?

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No, although he goes to a school that specialises in it, he only as a Speech-Language Development delay - but not being able to articulate the words can make you frustrated, especially when you're a toddler.

If it were more extreme, it would be on that Spectrum - but its one of those things that, with treatment, he will get to a normal school on-time... 

 

 

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But Predictions still standing at the moment.  I expect something to be leaked next week at  GAMA, and that something to involve a Quasar Fire carrier.

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I really hope they do not add a scum faction, and doubt they will. There is ZERO presence or even hints of a scum faction ship in any of the canon movies. Plus, they already have a large # of neutral squads in the game that are already affiliated with one of the sides.

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