Momonip 26 Posted October 31, 2016 Some advice needed please. I've managed to make a pigs ear out of a Mel Miniatures Mk1 assault frigate. Due to a series of mistakes it now has about 10 layers of paint and two thick layers of duraclear gloss varnish on it and I've managed to lose a lot of the definition and fine detail on this wonderful model. Can it be stripped (by using something like acetone free nail polish remover)? Or will that damage the material - Frosted ultra detail? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vykes 1,927 Posted October 31, 2016 Simple Green works, I did it a few days ago with a Mk.I type III. Was stripped down with Simple Green. It took about 10 minutes in the Green, scrubbed with a bit of warm water and a toothbrush, then given a second scrub. I primed it back up and turned it into the Ravager. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatRobHuman 1,795 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) confirmed - Simple Green or Fabuloso works great. I've not damaged any bit of my FUD models and I've stripped and repainted some of mine about three times. Edited October 31, 2016 by FoaS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Momonip 26 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks very much, that's reassuring to know! Am in the UK so will see if either of those products are available here. Cheers Ps. Ravager looks incredible! Edited October 31, 2016 by Momonip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vykes 1,927 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I've heard that Fairy Power Spray bandied about as a close approximation (all talk, no experience here. Heard it's a little harsher than Simple Green, so... you know, fair warning. I wouldn't leave things in long, but it can't be as harsh as some stuff I've used that's turned models to soup.), but Simple Green has been in a few UK markets. Best of luck on it, mate! Shapeways stuff is usually great to have and great to see on the table And thanks mate. I'm rather liking the Ravager, though I've got another Type III to go. Hope you'll put up some pictures of that mk.I when you have it done, eh? Type V? Edited October 31, 2016 by Vykes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outerrimrebel 316 Posted October 31, 2016 UK - Fairy Power Spray or Dettol US - Simple Green, Purple Power or LA's Totally Awesome Another option is rubbing alcohol, 90% or stronger. It will remove the paint but not the dull coat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Momonip 26 Posted October 31, 2016 Ah great thanks, will grab some fairy and try that first. It's a type vi, if I ever get it to a decent standard I'll post some pics ;-) How did you do the rust effects? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 27,025 Posted October 31, 2016 Unicorn Tears. Seriously. Vykes can and will tell you. He'll go through the process step by step, but there's just something innate about what he does that lends all of his works a certain look that is almost impossible to replicate... I've been trying every day since I first saw his stuff online and found out he was "nearby"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatRobHuman 1,795 Posted October 31, 2016 Gods how I want Vykes to start a "the joy of mini painting" series... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 27,025 Posted October 31, 2016 Gods how I want Vykes to start a "the joy of mini painting" series... I'd Patreon it. 1 ThatRobHuman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vykes 1,927 Posted October 31, 2016 I'd feel very guilty if it was unicorn tears Rust effects are something not too hard to do, but like most effects, there's several different methods which all achieve something slightly different. As a bit of a cut and paste from something I mentioned when working on my 'new style' dreadnaughts: "The rust details are made up of 5 usual colours, but it can really be broken up into 3 different paints that serve 3 different functions. I use a very watered down chestnut ink or a ghost-tint, to get the long vertical streaks. It tends to be very-very watered down and often added in 2 layers. The second is a high pigment flesh wash (mine is from Reaper). It's completely undiluted and adds the warmer rust colours right in the corners and recess. The final, and most important, is a water mixable oil colour from Windsor and Newton. Anyway, take just a little bit with a touch of water on an older brush (oils hurt bristles, we don't ruin a good brush, eh?). Add a small dot of the watered down paint to the ship and let it dry for 15-20 seconds before taking a damp brush and running it over the daub. It will end up giving you those subtle easily controlled 'burn' like marks that taper off into a blend. I do hope that helps some." And of course you can mix and match those a bit to further the effect. -laughs- I'd do more painting tutorial stuff if I had a more formulaic approach, confidence, aaaand an internet speed faster than pseudo-dial up. Still, always happy to help. And best of luck with that type VI, it's rare to see that in comparison to the type V and I don't think I've seen a painted example around yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 27,025 Posted October 31, 2016 -laughs- I'd do more painting tutorial stuff if I had a more formulaic approach, confidence, aaaand an internet speed faster than pseudo-dial up. Work on the First Two. Stick 'em on a USB and Post them here. I'll upload 'em since I'm City-Folk and all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outerrimrebel 316 Posted October 31, 2016 Gods how I want Vykes to start a "the joy of mini painting" series... I can just see Vykes doing this: "We're going to paint this happy little TIE Fighter here, with just a little Administratum Grey..." 1 Salted Diamond reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThatRobHuman 1,795 Posted October 31, 2016 I'd back a patreon, too. I've got a web-server sitting here that can host things, too - just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Momonip 26 Posted October 31, 2016 Awesome cheers, think I'll practice that on an old 40k mini first.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Momonip 26 Posted April 15, 2017 Well I finally finished this, after several failed attempts.. (apologies in advance to Mel) FAIL 1 (I used a hideous mix of seraphim sepia wash followed by nuln oil.... what was I thinking O_o) FAIL 2 (I tried to do a checkerboard scheme with evil red bits... hmm just a bit too different for my liking) FAIL 3... ah wait, this will actually do.. I basecoated with ushabti bone, then did a couple of watered down washes of nuln oil. As always this left a lot of ugly staining on all the flat panels. I mixed 60/40 ushabti bone & scar white then repainted all the panels (what a chore!) For some reason I struggled to maintain straight lines, so a lot of them look a bit 'blobby', but it'll do for the tabletop.. I find painting Warhammer is just..... easier! 6 melminiatures, Darthain, MajSharpe and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melminiatures 2,664 Posted April 15, 2017 I like the four of them.... 2 MajSharpe and SFC Snuffy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Momonip 26 Posted April 15, 2017 Thanks very much Your models are incredible! The level of detail is amazing 1 melminiatures reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuuk 48 Posted April 18, 2017 As seeing the 'proper' assault frigate just makes me sad. The space potatoe is so horrendously ugly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthain 1,747 Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, stuuk said: As seeing the 'proper' assault frigate just makes me sad. The space potatoe is so horrendously ugly. Wait til my space potato kit bash is done, if you thought the original looks bad. 1 MajSharpe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexhurlbut 70 Posted May 3, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 4:10 AM, Momonip said: Well I finally finished this, after several failed attempts.. (apologies in advance to Mel) FAIL 1 (I used a hideous mix of seraphim sepia wash followed by nuln oil.... what was I thinking O_o) FAIL 2 (I tried to do a checkerboard scheme with evil red bits... hmm just a bit too different for my liking) FAIL 3... ah wait, this will actually do.. I basecoated with ushabti bone, then did a couple of watered down washes of nuln oil. As always this left a lot of ugly staining on all the flat panels. I mixed 60/40 ushabti bone & scar white then repainted all the panels (what a chore!) For some reason I struggled to maintain straight lines, so a lot of them look a bit 'blobby', but it'll do for the tabletop.. 5 Where did you get that miniature? I love that 'neo' Assault Frigate look (over the classic haphazard exposed structures). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites