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Did they spoil all the cards? 

 

By my count, we now have the following units:

 

TIE Fighters: Black Squadron, Valen Rudor

TIE Interceptors: Saber Squadron, Ciena Ree

TIE Bombers: Gamma Squadron, Captain Jonus

TIE Advanced: ?, ?

 

X-wing: Rogue Squadron, Biggs Darklighter

Y-wing: ?, ?

B-wing: Dagger Squadron?, Ten Numb

A-wing: ?, Shara Bey

 

Also, the only units here that improve Rhymerballs are Black Squadron with cheap Escort and Valen Rudor, who provides survivable counterfire. Jonus doesn't affect squadrons, only ships.

Was really hoping to see the Y-Wings spoiled.  I wonder if we will see Pops?

Norra Wexley is probably more likely for the Y-Wing.

 

Why do you say that? Biggs is A New Hope.  Pops is the iconic Y-Wing pilot "Stay on Target!" 

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Will Biggs ability trigger Galant Haven?  Move 1 damage over, and then GH reduce the damage by 1? Or does wording prevent this?

What about pairing Biggs, Jan, and GH? Brace the damage, move 1 within range of GH, and negate it completely? I think it does work, because GH says "when a squad suffers damage, reduce it by 1", and Biggs says you move 1 damage to a squad with escort and it "suffers 1 damage."

 

Gallant Heaven only triggers when a squadron is attacked, not when a squadron takes damage from another effect.

Edited by SoonerTed

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This guy looks awesome. He may bring back the Tie fighter swarm lists.

 

Crap I just noticed his gun is 3 BLACKS, not Blues...SHRED!!!!!!!!!!

Only black means no accuracy, which means anyone with a scatter laughs at this dude.

 

Flight controllers + Howlrunner = 2 blues 3 blacks. 

 

He is also ridiculously cheap at 13.  Cheapest Imperial Ace.

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Ahem:

Flight Controllers:

The anti-squadron armament of each squadron that you activate is increased by 1 blue die until the end of its activation."

 

 

Howlrunner

 

"While another friendly squadron with Swarm at distance 1 is attacking a squadron, it may add 1 blue die to its attack pool."

 

 

Snipe:

 

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SO

 

Precedent is there that both Howlrunner and Flight Controllers will work with Snipe...

 

Howlrunner is a No-brainer to add.  Its a Modify Dice effect.  You start with 4 Dice, and then add one after they have been rolled into an attack pool.  Simple.  Works.

 

 

Flight Controllers takes a little Mental Gymnastics to work, and works only under the assumption that Flight controllers is adding a blanket +1 to "all" Anti-Squadron Armaments...    That Snipe is effectively a second Anti-Squadron Armament Box...

 

So that's more questionable...  But on the face of it...  I'd try not to Argue too much for or against it right now....  They're Interceptors without Counter, and won't live much beyond their Alpha Strike - Which is exactly what happens with Interceptors right now.

Normally I'd defer to Dras's interpretations but I think here that he's wrong. The ability is "Snipe 4" and specifically says that it is 4 AS dice. It doesn't refer to the AS armament of the squadron (which happens to be 4) which is being modified by FC or Howl.

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Ahem:

Flight Controllers:

The anti-squadron armament of each squadron that you activate is increased by 1 blue die until the end of its activation."

 

 

Howlrunner

 

"While another friendly squadron with Swarm at distance 1 is attacking a squadron, it may add 1 blue die to its attack pool."

 

 

Snipe:

 

swm25-saber-squadron.png

SO

 

Precedent is there that both Howlrunner and Flight Controllers will work with Snipe...

 

Howlrunner is a No-brainer to add.  Its a Modify Dice effect.  You start with 4 Dice, and then add one after they have been rolled into an attack pool.  Simple.  Works.

 

 

Flight Controllers takes a little Mental Gymnastics to work, and works only under the assumption that Flight controllers is adding a blanket +1 to "all" Anti-Squadron Armaments...    That Snipe is effectively a second Anti-Squadron Armament Box...

 

So that's more questionable...  But on the face of it...  I'd try not to Argue too much for or against it right now....  They're Interceptors without Counter, and won't live much beyond their Alpha Strike - Which is exactly what happens with Interceptors right now.

Normally I'd defer to Dras's interpretations but I think here that he's wrong. The ability is "Snipe 4" and specifically says that it is 4 AS dice. It doesn't refer to the AS armament of the squadron (which happens to be 4) which is being modified by FC or Howl.

 

I don't think it really matters right now. That is a fight for another day.

 

I don't disagree, I think I was actually wrong in my first statement about it.

Edited by Undeadguy

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By my count, we now have the following units:

 

TIE Fighters: Black Squadron, Valen Rudor

TIE Interceptors: Saber Squadron, Ciena Ree

TIE Bombers: Gamma Squadron, Captain Jonus

TIE Advanced: ?, ?

 

X-wing: Rogue Squadron, Biggs Darklighter

Y-wing: ?, ?

B-wing: Dagger Squadron?, Ten Numb

A-wing: ?, Shara Bey

 

Also, the only units here that improve Rhymerballs are Black Squadron with cheap Escort and Valen Rudor, who provides survivable counterfire. Jonus doesn't affect squadrons, only ships.

 

The unique non-hero B-wing has only been partially spoiled, no?

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Normally I'd defer to Dras's interpretations but I think here that he's wrong. The ability is "Snipe 4" and specifically says that it is 4 AS dice. It doesn't refer to the AS armament of the squadron (which happens to be 4) which is being modified by FC or Howl.

 

 

Howlrunner Modifies Attack pool.

 

Attack pool is formed after you roll your Snipe Dice.

 

THAT one works.  End of Story.

Edited by Drasnighta

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Dras is 100% right on Howlrunner. She's an add effect to the attack pool. It's the same reasoning for her getting to add to Counter. Flight Controllers I'm going to go the other way, but there is a lot of wiggle room. FAQ is definitely needed.

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Normally I'd defer to Dras's interpretations but I think here that he's wrong. The ability is "Snipe 4" and specifically says that it is 4 AS dice. It doesn't refer to the AS armament of the squadron (which happens to be 4) which is being modified by FC or Howl.

 

 

Howlrunner Modifies Attack pool.

 

Attack pool is formed after you roll your Snipe Dice.

 

THAT one works.  End of Story.

 

Ok agreed about Howl with the attack pool. However FC I don't think will work.

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Just an FYI, Dras started a thread about FC, Howl and Saber in the rules thread. https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/233294-snipe-howlrunner-flight-controllers-saber-squadron-discussion/

 

We can discuss it there, instead of messing up the glory of new squads here. 

Edited by Undeadguy

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Normally I'd defer to Dras's interpretations but I think here that he's wrong. The ability is "Snipe 4" and specifically says that it is 4 AS dice. It doesn't refer to the AS armament of the squadron (which happens to be 4) which is being modified by FC or Howl.

 

 

Howlrunner Modifies Attack pool.

 

Attack pool is formed after you roll your Snipe Dice.

 

THAT one works.  End of Story.

 

Ok agreed about Howl with the attack pool. However FC I don't think will work.

 

 

Well, snipe is worded as ANTI-SQUADRON armament, so it's no different from the printed anti-squadron armament, no?

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