a1bert 4,115 Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) So in effect you want to know whether empty spaces on the other side of the door allows a figure to draw a line of sight through the door that does not occupy a space on this side of the door. In other words: Can you attack a door by targeting a space the door occupies on the other side of the door? RRG: 1. Line of sight says that a figure does not block line of sight to itself and a target figure does not block line of sight. 2. Attacking Objects does not say anything about a target object not blocking line of sight to itself. 3. Doors say that a figure cannot draw line of sight through a door. It could be elsewhere, but I did not find a rule that allows you to draw line of sight through a door when attacking the door. Edited October 19, 2016 by a1bert 1 DerBaer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KalEl814 1,510 Posted October 19, 2016 Well, we can conclude that the Inquisitor could not perform a melee attack on the door, because he is not adjacent. Melee attacks require adjacency, not LOS (you always have LOS to anything you are adjacent to, but not necessarily the other way around). But could he perform a ranged attack? I've continued to phrase everything ITT horribly, to my embarrassment. Regarding ranged attacks... So in effect you want to know whether empty spaces on the other side of the door allows a figure to draw a line of sight through the door that does not occupy a space on this side of the door. In other words: Can you attack a door by targeting a space the door occupies on the other side of the door? RRG: 1. Line of sight says that a figure does not block line of sight to itself and a target figure does not block line of sight. 2. Attacking Objects does not say anything about a target object not blocking line of sight to itself. 3. Doors say that a figure cannot draw line of sight through a door. It could be elsewhere, but I did not find a rule that allows you to draw line of sight through a door when attacking the door. That's where my head was at as well, thanks for breaking it down that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stompburger 685 Posted October 19, 2016 Well, we can conclude that the Inquisitor could not perform a melee attack on the door, because he is not adjacent. Melee attacks require adjacency, not LOS (you always have LOS to anything you are adjacent to, but not necessarily the other way around). But could he perform a ranged attack? I've continued to phrase everything ITT horribly, to my embarrassment. Regarding ranged attacks... So in effect you want to know whether empty spaces on the other side of the door allows a figure to draw a line of sight through the door that does not occupy a space on this side of the door. In other words: Can you attack a door by targeting a space the door occupies on the other side of the door? RRG: 1. Line of sight says that a figure does not block line of sight to itself and a target figure does not block line of sight. 2. Attacking Objects does not say anything about a target object not blocking line of sight to itself. 3. Doors say that a figure cannot draw line of sight through a door. It could be elsewhere, but I did not find a rule that allows you to draw line of sight through a door when attacking the door. That's where my head was at as well, thanks for breaking it down that way. Okay, I think that makes sense. The question is, can you draw LOS through a door when it's your target? This doesn't make sense to me thematically or mechanically, so I'm going to guess the answer is no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majushi 1,127 Posted October 20, 2016 I would think point 3 above clearly knocks that one on the head. Line of sight cannot be drawn through a door. Doors are not figures, so point 1 above doesn't apply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stompburger 685 Posted October 20, 2016 I would think point 3 above clearly knocks that one on the head. Line of sight cannot be drawn through a door. Doors are not figures, so point 1 above doesn't apply. What about other objects though? In some missions, tokens represent barricades which are blocking terrain, and you can attack them. You normally can't draw LOS through blocking terrain, but what if you're attacking it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1bert 4,115 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) You can draw line of sight into a blocking terrain space, but not through it. Edited October 20, 2016 by a1bert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
