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I can tell you for certain that this was not on their minisite yesterday:

 


What does this mean for Living Card Games?

Star Wars: Destiny exists in a completely separate space from our Living Card Games®. Our LCG model has been extremely successful, and we are looking forward to continuing to support it, both now and in the future. 

We absolutely believe that collectible games and non-collectible games like LCGs can exist side-by-side, appealing to different segments of the greater gaming community. We want to offer strong options for fans of collectible games and fans of non-collectible games, while taking nothing away from either one. We look forward to supporting fans of both categories in years to come.

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Yeah, I definitely saw that. I kept missing the pulldown 'read more' thing on the one page, that had a lot of info, and it's spread out weird between the video, splash page, and the other pages, but that was in there along with quite a bit of other decent info if you keep looking.

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LCGs are aimed at gamers - sure they have FFG's usual slickness and ease of entry - but let's face it their target audience is primarily established gamers. As such the target market is FLGS. They are the kind of stores that can support the multiple SKUs of an LCG - ie 1 for a core, 6 for every cycle, plus the deluxe boxes. They're also the places that support and run events and help to build the community around the game.


 


Destiny is aimed towards the mass market crowd - this game is primarily aimed at your Walmarts, Targets, Tesco etc - and that's why it needs to be collectible - it's all about the SKUs. Those mass market stores will never stock LCG levels of SKUs. 'Awakenings' has at least 170 cards (and it's probably more around the 200 mark). With an LCG like model, or non random products - you're looking at tons of SKUs. With it being collectible, you've got 3 SKUs to start with, and depending on if they do the $15 dollar starters for each 'set' or only a booster box for each, you've got between 1-3 SKUs for each set.


 


Of course there will be overlap - gamers will play Destiny and FLGS will stock it, but muggles don't play LCGs and mass market stores don't stock them - they're different games with primarily different markets - therefore both can co-exist and neither threatens the other.


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Yeah:

 

SW

ANR

AGoT2E

LotR

40K Conquest

 

Incoming:

Arkham

L5R

 

Shelved:

AGoT1E

Cthulu

Warhammer Fantasy: Invasion

 

 

 

My early guess is that Arkham will make it 6. Then the Conquest rumors will probably be true and L5R will take it's place in the 6. Then SWLCG will sadly probably be about done by the time FFG has another one incoming.

 

The other 3 (AGoT, ANR, & LotR) all are pretty popular and should be around for a while yet.

Edited by Mattr0polis

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So how many LCG are active?

Star Wars

Netrunner

GOT v2

LOTR

Upcoming Arkam Horror

What am I forgetting?

Warhammer 40,000 Conquest

Legend of the Five Rings (coming soon)

I thought conquest is dead? And Lo5R is coming soon but doesn't have any product announced which is why I included it

Edit: Thank you Matt for your list :)

Edited by JediGeekGirl

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What is going on with conquest? I've been on reduced internet time for most of this year so I'm out of the loop.

 

I'm not in the know, as I don't play Conquest, but I've seen overlap players talking about it in forums for my LCGs saying that according to Conquest playtesters there is nothing else coming down the pipeline and that Games Workshop has ideas of making their own card game for Warhammer 40K and so might've told FFG to discontinue.

 

A lot of hearsay, but I've seen that being said a lot.

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Wow. By the sounds of it, none of their games are going to last long enough for rotation to even matter.

I think Netrunner will

 

 

Netrunner, AGOT 2, SW In order of survival. LOTR and Conquest are in slight trouble, but I hope to get a few more xpansions out of conquest.

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What is going on with conquest? I've been on reduced internet time for most of this year so I'm out of the loop.

 

I'm not in the know, as I don't play Conquest, but I've seen overlap players talking about it in forums for my LCGs saying that according to Conquest playtesters there is nothing else coming down the pipeline and that Games Workshop has ideas of making their own card game for Warhammer 40K and so might've told FFG to discontinue.

 

A lot of hearsay, but I've seen that being said a lot.

 

Huh, that sucks if true. Gameplay wise I loved Conquest, I actually think it could have been themed as a SW card game with great success if there wasn't already a SWLCG.

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What is going on with conquest? I've been on reduced internet time for most of this year so I'm out of the loop.

 

I'm not in the know, as I don't play Conquest, but I've seen overlap players talking about it in forums for my LCGs saying that according to Conquest playtesters there is nothing else coming down the pipeline and that Games Workshop has ideas of making their own card game for Warhammer 40K and so might've told FFG to discontinue.

 

A lot of hearsay, but I've seen that being said a lot.

 

I've heard that too, but again, all heresay.

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