thanosazlin 52 Posted July 12, 2016 so Nym Havoc has 1 blue and 1 black for ships. can i use both of these to re-roll a blue die TWICE in order to try and get a crit for Nym?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted July 12, 2016 so Nym Havoc has 1 blue and 1 black for ships. can i use both of these to re-roll a blue die TWICE in order to try and get a crit for Nym?? Yes you can Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted July 12, 2016 Indeed.This is no different to a ship having Leading Shots and Darth Vader.There is no restriction on how many times a die may be rerolled (unlike most games). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snipafist 7,541 Posted July 12, 2016 It should also be noted that the effects trigger in whatever order you like. So you can decide to use Toryn's first to reroll the blue dice and if it turns up a crit, then use the BCC reroll on the black dice (if you like). You don't need to commit to where those two rerolls are going all at once. 1 thanosazlin reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted July 12, 2016 Indeed. This is no different to a ship having Leading Shots and Darth Vader. Or Bomber Command Center and Bomber Command Center. I'm sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted July 12, 2016 Indeed. This is no different to a ship having Leading Shots and Darth Vader. Or Bomber Command Center and Bomber Command Center. I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. I Completely Agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted July 12, 2016 I know you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted July 12, 2016 I mean, more and more people are stepping up to say I'm wrong about Madine and all... But that's okay. Can't win 'em all. All you can do is provide advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEasternKing 607 Posted July 12, 2016 Only FFG can say one of us is wrong Dras, I'd say we just disagree with our interpretations on wording and intent, and by my book that is nothing to be upset over, it is something ambiguous after all. Not like the other stuff where the answer is clear cut, and easily resolvable, pretty sure for the most part your reading of the rules/interactions is spot on, and thus no one says a word different, when you post a reply to help someone. As for Bomber Command, I'd say it works once per attack, like Vader, but I could be totally wrong in that. Again something for FFG to clarify one way or the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted July 12, 2016 And no worries, not upset... Gets a little heated at times, as we've seen, but I always walk away and come back fresher. Part of the living around these parts and all (In short, no, no I don't have anything better to do.. ) And we won't know which way that'll go either, until we have advice... But at least, to answer the OP's question again...... Yes, You certainly can stack Rerolls and use them in any order as they generally have the same timing 1 TheEasternKing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thecactusman17 3,192 Posted July 13, 2016 So there are questions about whether or not multiple identical upgrade cards can stack their effects, but generally it is understood that you can reroll a die as often as you want so long as each reroll is triggered by a different effect. I'm trying to recall what is up to, but previously you could reroll one die up to seven times, and I think it's 8 or 9 times now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,321 Posted July 13, 2016 I'm trying to recall what is up to, but previously you could reroll one die up to seven times, and I think it's 8 or 9 times now. That seems really high. Out of curiosity whats the sequence? Presume Vader, Leading Shots, Ordnance Expers, but I dont see the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 2,250 Posted July 13, 2016 Veteran gunners, Vader, Leading Shots, Ordnance Experts, Concentrate fire token. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jondavies72 575 Posted July 13, 2016 I think I'd fall on the side of bomber commands stacking, simply because there is nothing in the rule mechanics or wording of the card to prevent this. I suspect FFG have considered this because if they wanted to limit the effect they could have simply made it a unique card. Not even sure they will FAQ it to be honest, anyone put in a clarification email ? 1 Ardaedhel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snipafist 7,541 Posted July 13, 2016 I think I'd fall on the side of bomber commands stacking, simply because there is nothing in the rule mechanics or wording of the card to prevent this. I suspect FFG have considered this because if they wanted to limit the effect they could have simply made it a unique card. Not even sure they will FAQ it to be honest, anyone put in a clarification email ? I would appreciate an FAQ so I don't need to argue it with other players in the future, as it keeps producing questions. For what it's worth, I'm with you on team "of course it stacks," but still. 3 Jondavies72, Madaghmire and Ardaedhel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardaedhel 10,844 Posted July 13, 2016 I think I'd fall on the side of bomber commands stacking, simply because there is nothing in the rule mechanics or wording of the card to prevent this. I suspect FFG have considered this because if they wanted to limit the effect they could have simply made it a unique card. Not even sure they will FAQ it to be honest, anyone put in a clarification email ? I did. 1 Jondavies72 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jondavies72 575 Posted July 13, 2016 Snipafist... I hope they do FAQ because I can see people arguing till they are blue in the face about this one.....I've heard that people are still arguing about howlrunner adding a blue dice to counter. Well done Ard, looking forward seeing the sensible and definitive answer from FFG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyraeus 4,759 Posted July 14, 2016 How are people arguing over Howlrunner adding to a swarm's counter? It is an Attack so Howlrunner triggers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jondavies72 575 Posted July 14, 2016 How are people arguing over Howlrunner adding to a swarm's counter? It is an Attack so Howlrunner triggers. Lyraeus it seems people will argue about anything, even when they are obviously completely wrong. 3 Lyraeus, Madaghmire and Green Knight reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanal 2,557 Posted July 15, 2016 How are people arguing over Howlrunner adding to a swarm's counter? It is an Attack so Howlrunner triggers. Lyraeus it seems people will argue about anything, even when they are obviously completely wrong. But you are wrong!! People don't argue all the time, just on the internet. 1 Lyraeus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jondavies72 575 Posted July 17, 2016 How are people arguing over Howlrunner adding to a swarm's counter? It is an Attack so Howlrunner triggers. Lyraeus it seems people will argue about anything, even when they are obviously completely wrong. But you are wrong!! People don't argue all the time, just on the internet. No that's not right at all, you are completely absolutely and totally wrong on this matter. 4 Amanal, Green Knight, Maturin and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swusn 461 Posted July 21, 2016 Snipafist... I hope they do FAQ because I can see people arguing till they are blue in the face about this one.....I've heard that people are still arguing about howlrunner adding a blue dice to counter. Well done Ard, looking forward seeing the sensible and definitive answer from FFG. You do not even need a FAQ for that one, it is on page 12 of the rule book "A counter attack can be modified by effects that modify a standard attack, such as the swarm keyword." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted July 21, 2016 People Read?Thats Umpossible! 4 DonKarnage, Lyraeus, Formynder4 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PT106 2,316 Posted August 7, 2016 I asked Alex Davy about using two bomber command centers to reroll same dice multiple times and according to him, its allowed. 1 Lyraeus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyraeus 4,759 Posted August 7, 2016 I asked Alex Davy about using two bomber command centers to reroll same dice multiple times and according to him, its allowed. Oh buddy. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites