SUPER Norra Wexley - Incredible Action Economy!!!

[CBS Ink 43]

Someone might have already found this, but I found it VERY interesting.

 

Check this out:

40 points for whats below, leaving room for other ships and upgrades.

 

Norra Wesley (29)

When attacking or defending, you may spend a target lock you have on the enemy ship to add 1  result to your roll.

- BB-8 (2)

- Marksmanship (3)

- Kyle Katarn (3)

- Alliance Overhaul (0)

- Experimental Interface (3)

 

 

Break Down:

So when Norra reveals a Green Maneuver, BB8 Kicks in, giving you a FREE Barrel Roll, which triggers Experimental Interface, which triggers Marksmanship helping you with Norra's ability to add an Eye result to the attack roll, but now you can add 1 Crit as well.

Then you execute your Green Maneuver, Clearing the Stress that Experimental Interface gave you, triggering Kyle Katarn who gives you a FREE Focus token that you can use while Defending since Marksmanship is basically a Super Focus.

Then you can finally take your regular action, which would be a Target Lock since you already exhausted your other action options. 

 

WOW!!!

 

So in short, every time you perform a Green Maneuver, you can Barrel Roll, use Marksmanship, get a Free Focus, and Target Lock... all will residual NO STRESS!!!

 

You can also switch out Marksmanship with:

- Expose, but it hurts your defense.

- Daredevil, but it gives you an extra Stress.

- Squad Leader, but it sucks...

- Expert Handling, but it gives you another Stress.

- Rage, but it gives you 2 Extra Stress.

Edited July 12, 2016 by CBS Ink

[Agemman 36]

You cab do that with a build 3 point cheaper: just swap out Marksmanship for PTL and you can ditch EM, the only thing that changes is that after the b.roll you do a focus action insteas of marksmanship.

[CBS Ink 43]

You cab do that with a build 3 point cheaper: just swap out Marksmanship for PTL and you can ditch EM, the only thing that changes is that after the b.roll you do a focus action insteas of marksmanship.

 

 

If you do that, though, you will lose Marksmanship (Crit) Focus Attack and a focus token for Defense. Also you will not have a Target lock for the attack either. 

Plus, with Marksmanship and Norra's ability, you are always guaranteed a Crit result.

 

With the squad I put together above, you get Marksmanship with Target Lock Attacks, a Focus Token for Defense, and No Stress.

To me, those extra 3 points are well worth it.

Edited July 12, 2016 by CBS Ink

[DeathToJarJar 132]

I think it still works. Correct me if I'm wrong:

 

- Reveal a green maneuver. Do a barrel roll with BB-8

- Since you just did a barrel roll action, you can trigger PTL and take a focus action, getting a stress token.

- Execute green maneuver. You lose the stress token so Kyle triggers, getting you a second focus token.

- You can then do your normal action, gaining a target lock.

 

Unless I'm wrong about it working (and I'm almost 100% certain it works, I've run the BB-8 PTL combo before on other ships), the only thing you lose is the extra crit result versus the extra hit result. Personally I think that the crit isn't worth three points, but it's up to you. The combo is incredible either way; definitely giving this a try once the pack comes out. If you go the PTL route, you could also add in Vectored Thrusters or Engine Upgrade in case you want a barrel roll or boost instead of the second focus token.

[namdoolb 290]

I think it still works. Correct me if I'm wrong:

 

- Reveal a green maneuver. Do a barrel roll with BB-8

- Since you just did a barrel roll action, you can trigger PTL and take a focus action, getting a stress token.

- Execute green maneuver. You lose the stress token so Kyle triggers, getting you a second focus token.

- You can then do your normal action, gaining a target lock.

 

Unless I'm wrong about it working (and I'm almost 100% certain it works, I've run the BB-8 PTL combo before on other ships), the only thing you lose is the extra crit result versus the extra hit result. Personally I think that the crit isn't worth three points, but it's up to you. The combo is incredible either way; definitely giving this a try once the pack comes out. If you go the PTL route, you could also add in Vectored Thrusters or Engine Upgrade in case you want a barrel roll or boost instead of the second focus token.

Just a minor correction :-)

 

You don't want vectored thrusters, since you can't do a second barrel roll in 1 turn.

Engine upgrade is a good plan (and does solve some of the predictability of green maneuvers), but does make Norra a bit pricey.

[DeathToJarJar 132]

Right, I missed that. Thanks.

[CBS Ink 43]

Ok, I see what you guys mean now. Yea, that does work.

The only difference would be the guaranteed Crit.

 

Good Call.

Then you can also add the Integrated Astromech

 

Thanks guys,

Im just loving these Arc-170s!

[ObiWonka 7,081]

Then you can also add the Integrated Astromech

Only if you can convince your opponent that the ACR-170 counts as an X-Wing.

[CBS Ink 43]

Then you can also add the Integrated Astromech

Only if you can convince your opponent that the ACR-170 counts as an X-Wing.

Crap! This is the last time X-wingSquadbuilder.com fools me!

They don't show that they are X-Wing only on that site.

[ficklegreendice 34,362]

not really certain 3 points is worth a defensive focus on a single point of agility

 

granted, it's a tiny bit more than that because you get TL + focus on the bb-8 roll (ie, even if you bump) but still

 

think I'd rather have tail gunner w/PTL + bb-8

Edited July 12, 2016 by ficklegreendice

[Chillmire 57]

I like the look of Super Norra. So much in fact that I built a list with her in. Doesn't leave room for much else, so why not play big?

Norra Wexley (ARC-170)
Push the Limit
Kyle Katarn
BB8
Alliance Overhaul
Engine Upgrade
-41

Keyan Farlander (B-Wing)
Veteran Instincts
Fire Control System
Heavy Laser Cannon
B-Wing/E2
Hera Syndulla
-41

Tala Squadron Pilot (Z-95 Headhunter)
Homing Missiles
Guidance Chips

-18

[Imperial Mike 123]

I think the Arc is the B-Wing replacement. 

 

I like this. 

[namdoolb 290]

not really certain 3 points is worth a defensive focus on a single point of agility

 

granted, it's a tiny bit more than that because you get TL + focus on the bb-8 roll (ie, even if you bump) but still

 

think I'd rather have tail gunner w/PTL + bb-8

Well, there is that, but if you're running the engine upgrade then Katarn provides your offensive focus because your actions for that turn would be boost, target lock, and barrel roll(bb-8).

 

I know what you mean about the defensive focus though: It doesn't do a lot on one agility.

(but at least Norra can make a use for it if she doesn't spend the TL on the attack).

[Magnus Grendel 11,679]

I'd agree that a focus token on 1 agility probably isn't worth it.

 

I'd rather use the crew slot for C-3PO if I wanted to be tougher, Nien Numb if I wanted to be faster, or Tail Gunner if I wanted to hit harder.

[ficklegreendice 34,362]

I think the Arc is the B-Wing replacement.

I like this.

It isn't

Esp the above build. The closest Bs have is keyan and even then they aren't very similar

Edited July 13, 2016 by ficklegreendice

[CBS Ink 43]

I'd agree that a focus token on 1 agility probably isn't worth it.

 

I'd rather use the crew slot for C-3PO if I wanted to be tougher, Nien Numb if I wanted to be faster, or Tail Gunner if I wanted to hit harder.

 

I like the thought of Tailgunner too.

I think I would use the Tailgunner on one of the other pilots, though. Maybe with Shara Bey with her Target Lock sharing ability. 

 

I like the thought of using Kyle Katarn on Norra because after you Push the Limit to TL, Kyle will give you that Free Focus token after you execute the Green maneuver, even if you bump.

So Norra will have everything she needs in order to use her ability. (even if she bumps)

Also, Norra can use her TL to activate her Extra Focus Result ability, then she can use Shara Bey's Target locks during the attack.

 

 

Nasty! Nasty! Nasty!

[ficklegreendice 34,362]

Norra has the scariest tailgunner of all the ARCs though because her ability is just ATC when combined with overhaul

Granted you spend the lock, but it's not like Vader can rip off wedge

[Agemman 36]

 

You cab do that with a build 3 point cheaper: just swap out Marksmanship for PTL and you can ditch EM, the only thing that changes is that after the b.roll you do a focus action insteas of marksmanship.

 

 

If you do that, though, you will lose Marksmanship (Crit) Focus Attack and a focus token for Defense. Also you will not have a Target lock for the attack either. 

Plus, with Marksmanship and Norra's ability, you are always guaranteed a Crit result.

 

With the squad I put together above, you get Marksmanship with Target Lock Attacks, a Focus Token for Defense, and No Stress.

To me, those extra 3 points are well worth it.

 

Erhm ... no? You can achieve the same exact thing with PTL:

-reveal a green

-barrell roll with BB8

-PTL and get a focus and a stress

-perform green, destress, kyle gives you another focus

-tlock with your normal action

-end up with 2 focus tokens and a tlock

 

basically you're spending 3 points more for a single crit

 

EDIT: Oh **** i didn't read the posts after  , oh well, you got the point in the end 

Edited July 13, 2016 by Agemman

[CBS Ink 43]

Norra has the scariest tailgunner of all the ARCs though because her ability is just ATC when combined with overhaul

Granted you spend the lock, but it's not like Vader can rip off wedge

Agreed. And you could still use Shara Beys Target Locks for the attack, if need be. Edited July 13, 2016 by CBS Ink

[Magnus Grendel 11,679]

Indeed. Or you can use Shara to let you pull this trick with a torpedo. There's no 'automatic' modification choice like there is with an X-wing, so the possibility of a torpedo with Guidance Chips and Nora's ability is......unpleasant?

[ficklegreendice 34,362]

Indeed. Or you can use Shara to let you pull this trick with a torpedo. There's no 'automatic' modification choice like there is with an X-wing, so the possibility of a torpedo with Guidance Chips and Nora's ability is......unpleasant?

 

is it more unpleasant than Norra and Shara both firing modified attacks, though?

[Barth 4]

Hello,

I will try tomorrow Norra, Push the limit, targeting astromech, vectored thrusters, recon specialist, alliance overhaul.

Associated to Jan Ors on HWK, I have 4 to 5 dices and 2 focus...and an AWing with Ion Pulse missile to slow down à big machine...

What is your view?

[tggellar 0]

Is there not a major fault in this build? Bb-8 can only trigger if you have no stress. Due to the wording on bb-8 you barrel roll before doing the green maneuver you just revealed. If this is the case then you can't as its not the reveal of a green maneuver that sheds stress but the performing of the maneuver so you are still stressed and bb8' s barrel roll is still an action.

In the short you can only do thiswhen not stressed at the start of activation phase.

[4fox100 609]

not really certain 3 points is worth a defensive focus on a single point of agility

 

granted, it's a tiny bit more than that because you get TL + focus on the bb-8 roll (ie, even if you bump) but still

 

think I'd rather have tail gunner w/PTL + bb-8

^This. Or if not with biggs i would go with 3PO.

[4fox100 609]

Is there not a major fault in this build? Bb-8 can only trigger if you have no stress. Due to the wording on bb-8 you barrel roll before doing the green maneuver you just revealed. If this is the case then you can't as its not the reveal of a green maneuver that sheds stress but the performing of the maneuver so you are still stressed and bb8' s barrel roll is still an action.

In the short you can only do thiswhen not stressed at the start of activation phase.

And if you don't mind me asking. Why would you be stressed? ARCs don't really need to Kturn and you trigger PTL off of bb-8. So you get the stress from PTL then move a green. No stress.