Need Help. Rebuilding Jedi Character from D6/D20 RCRB

[The Shy Ion 502]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

Well, as far as having Korath having authority over another player's character, the idea of the game I'm considering would have every player playing two characters--a high XP "Signature" character that they've been playing for years, converted from a previous system to any of the three systems (F&D, AotR, EotE), and a starting character for any of the three systems. This means that everyone will have an apprentice or "subordinate" played by another player as well as everyone will be the apprentice of another player's character.

 

For example, with seven players, (A, B, C, D, E, F, G), Player A's "signature" character  will be the Master of Player B's starting character while Player B's Signature character would be the Master of Player C's starting character, while Player C's Signature character would be the Master to Player D's starting character, Player D's Signature character will be the Master of Player E's starting character, Player E's Signature character will be the Master of Player F's Starting character, Player F's Signature character will be the Master to Player G's starting character, and Player G's Signature character will be the Master to Player A's starting character.

 

Thus, for the sake of argument,  Korath might be Master to another player's Starting PC, while my starting PC might be Elias' apprentice. and your starting character could be the apprentice of still another player, and so on. 

 

So, I won't just be playing Korath, but also a new starting character apprenticed to still another player, but not the same player as "my" apprentice, for sake of argument. The same would be with you. Elias would have his own apprentice played by another player, and you would have a new starting character apprenticed to still another player. This is to prevent "power trips" as well as "favoritism" or "***-for-tat" problems if two players are playing each others' apprentice. 

 

As for GMing. The only things I even remotely plan on GMing any time soon would be some Jedi trials (the Trial of Skill and lightsaber crystal gathering trials modular encounters) from Nexus of Power, and maybe some other "training sessions" type sessions. I don't have the experience with the system to even think of really GMing anything serious, such as a whole adventure much less a campaign. Of course, if someone else wants to run the whole campaign, I'd have no problem with that either. I just don't want to do it myself. I'd rather be a player than GM. 

 

Now, as for using SWSheets vs Oggden's generator, I can't use Oggden's character generator. It's not compatible with Mac, strictly Windows PC only. SWSheets is compatible with any computer, since it's an online resource, so everyone can use it. This is why all of the PbP games here use it.  Also, I SWSheets doesn't have the same "missing items" and "Custom items" issues that Oggden's generator has regarding new or "unofficial" material. 

I don't have a problem with *KORATH* having an apprentice per se (if someone besides you was playing Korath I wouldn't have an issue with it), I have a problem with any CHARACTER that YOU play having an apprentice played by another player. This is about your interpersonal relationship skills as a player and your tendency to power trip when given any position of authority (even a fictional one), because you've never acknowledge that "good roleplaying" of a "tough as nails drill sergeant of jedi master" is not a valid reason/excuse for violating the DBAD (Don't Be A D!CK) rule in terms of how you treat other players.  I strongly expect that if another player played your apprentice they would drop out of the game.  The very fact that you are arguing for Korath being able to have his own apprentice suggests to me very strongly that you are still addicted/crave that kind of power trip.

 

You've heard my terms.  Korath (as long as you're playing him) does not get an apprentice in this game, but you can kibitz on Elias' mentoring of his apprentice, i.e. you get to play obiwan's role in the (obiwan/anakin/asoka) dynamic and that is the extreme limit of how far I'm willing to compromise on this issue.  If you won't agree to that, I won't play, period.  And because you seem to be seeking the power trip and I won't saction you power tripping on another player playing the "asoka" in the obiwan/anakin/asoka dynamic  the possible rider of you playing "asoka" (Elias' apprentice) is now also requirement.

 

Now in order to reveal a little hypocrisy to the other people reading this thread, Tramp objected to the previous Elias build (which clocked in at 300 fewer XP than Korath) as being overpowered / too good with a lightsaber RELATIVE to Korath because Elias had 5 ranks in lightsaber vs. Korath's 3 (he also objected to Elias having a 6 in willpower, which he gets to use with lightsabers thanks to the Niman-technique talent and uses for vigilance for initiative and uses for hurling objects with move, but that I'm not willing to alter) 

 

So I've dropped Elias's XP another 100 XP to 1495, and he now has 4 ranks in lightsaber and discipline, dropped improved parry, 1 rank of parry, 1 rank of reflect and a bunch of other stuff.  Here's a revised character sheet 

Starting Guardian:Warden with niman disciple as his second spec.  (in RCR d20 Elias was a consular who's backstory was that he was the Son of a Ysanna chief, Coniah Windrider, and that Force empowered martial arts was a father to son tradition in his family, Ysanna are from Ossus, the descendants of Jedi survivors of the supernova in the Chron (sp?) cluster)

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6jxbcvy0swz4zck/EliasWindrider20161115.pdf

 

There was another build in between this one and the one I previously posted, that Tramp saw very similar to the one I just linked to but with more talents as previously mentioned.

 

Now if you still think that a character with 400 xp less than Korath is too overpowered, you should inspect your motivations, it seems to me like you're slipping back to the previous pattern of wanting Korath to be the uber (by GM fiat) GM PC who swoops in and saves everyone else in the game.  I.e. you're addicted-to/crave power trips.   

 

In an email I showed Tramp how to trim an easy 40-50 xp from Korath's build without sacrificing essential talents, skill ranks, or force powers and so he's rejected on the basis of it removing skills from his list of class skills.  But he might still come around (I'm not holding my breath though)

 

also your SWsheet version of Korath had a lot of mistakes in it.  when you have 500+ xp characters it's almost impossible to avoid without the use of OggDude's character generator, and I have the generator and can Make Korath's sheet for you (I've already showed you a draft), and I can manually add most of what's missing pretty easily through the data editor.

Edited November 16, 2016 by EliasWindrider

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should.  Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

[The Shy Ion 502]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should.  Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

Assuming that by "virtual box" you mean a bootcamp-style emulator, there are a lot of downsides to that. For one, I wouldn't go and buy a Windows license just to install a character sheet maker. So, if he's already got a bootcamp version, the generator should probably run fine—but, if he doesn't, running it on a Windows boot would require buying a license.

Am I actually making any sense here? I'm seriously tired and can't tell. >_<

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

 

 

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should.  Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

Assuming that by "virtual box" you mean a bootcamp-style emulator, there are a lot of downsides to that. For one, I wouldn't go and buy a Windows license just to install a character sheet maker. So, if he's already got a bootcamp version, the generator should probably run fine—but, if he doesn't, running it on a Windows boot would require buying a license.

Am I actually making any sense here? I'm seriously tired and can't tell. >_<

 

not sure about your use of the word "emulator" I'm talking about a virtual machine rather than a traditional emulator, but other than that what you're saying jives with what I was thinking

 

as for virtual box I meant https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Mac%20OS%20X%20build%20instructions

Edited November 16, 2016 by EliasWindrider

[The Shy Ion 502]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should.  Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

Assuming that by "virtual box" you mean a bootcamp-style emulator, there are a lot of downsides to that. For one, I wouldn't go and buy a Windows license just to install a character sheet maker. So, if he's already got a bootcamp version, the generator should probably run fine—but, if he doesn't, running it on a Windows boot would require buying a license.

Am I actually making any sense here? I'm seriously tired and can't tell. >_<

not sure about your use of the word "emulator" I'm talking about a virtual machine rather than a traditional emulator, but other than that what you're saying jives with what I was thinking

 

as for virtual box I meant https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Mac%20OS%20X%20build%20instructions

Yeah, a virtual machine. Did I mention that I was seriously tired when I made that post?

[Richardbuxton 7,319]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should.  Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

Assuming that by "virtual box" you mean a bootcamp-style emulator, there are a lot of downsides to that. For one, I wouldn't go and buy a Windows license just to install a character sheet maker. So, if he's already got a bootcamp version, the generator should probably run fine—but, if he doesn't, running it on a Windows boot would require buying a license.

Am I actually making any sense here? I'm seriously tired and can't tell. >_<

not sure about your use of the word "emulator" I'm talking about a virtual machine rather than a traditional emulator, but other than that what you're saying jives with what I was thinking

 

as for virtual box I meant https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Mac%20OS%20X%20build%20instructions

Yeah, a virtual machine. Did I mention that I was seriously tired when I made that post?

I have heard you can run it on Amazons virtual windows servers too, but I haven't actually tried to figure out how

[EliasWindrider 2,714]

Not sure how relevant it is, but I can confirm that I haven't managed to get OggDude's generator working under Crossover. I'm not an expert on such things, though—I'm not terrible with computers, but trying to get stuff to work cross-platform is usually beyond me if the fix isn't already established.

I'm pretty sure it'd work under virtual box, assuming virtual box works on a Mac which it should. Of course you'd need a windows image to run in virtual box.

Assuming that by "virtual box" you mean a bootcamp-style emulator, there are a lot of downsides to that. For one, I wouldn't go and buy a Windows license just to install a character sheet maker. So, if he's already got a bootcamp version, the generator should probably run fine—but, if he doesn't, running it on a Windows boot would require buying a license.

Am I actually making any sense here? I'm seriously tired and can't tell. >_<

not sure about your use of the word "emulator" I'm talking about a virtual machine rather than a traditional emulator, but other than that what you're saying jives with what I was thinking

as for virtual box I meant https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Mac%20OS%20X%20build%20instructions

Yeah, a virtual machine. Did I mention that I was seriously tired when I made that post?

I have heard you can run it on Amazons virtual windows servers too, but I haven't actually tried to figure out how

Tramp is trying to go with only completely free to him options. Given his economics, I'd say that eminently practical.

Personally I miss the days when it was money not time that limited my gaming.

Edited December 4, 2016 by EliasWindrider