banania 275 Posted May 16, 2016 Is not mentionned either in The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings of its Appendices, only in the History of ME. Could FFG have acquired the rights to use this material too? That'd mean the health of the game is better than I thought it was, if FFG extended the licensed material the designers can peer through. It'd also mean possible Blue Wizards cards! 1 Valiko33 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gizlivadi 1,089 Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) If I'm not mistaken, the Blue Wizards are only mentioned by name in the Unfinished Tales, which is most definately off-limits. I can hope, though, Edited May 16, 2016 by Gizlivadi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecthelion III 382 Posted May 16, 2016 Fall of Gondolin confirmed! 2 JohnGarrison1870 and Nickpes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandSpleen 1,756 Posted May 17, 2016 Is it on a map, though? Those are included as part of the Lord of the Rings. That could be enough. 2 JohnGarrison1870 and Valdemart reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banania 275 Posted May 17, 2016 I checked too, seems it's not :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edheliad 145 Posted May 17, 2016 That'll be a lawsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingolfin Fate 142 Posted May 17, 2016 Yes, even the encyclopedia of Arda does not have it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valiko33 36 Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I'm eager to read to flavor introduction text of this scenario. If the quoted text is not The Hobbit or LotR it will means a lot Wouldn't it be amazing having a First Age / Silmarillion Saga after the LOTR Saga expansion? Ok i'm dreaming. Edited May 17, 2016 by Valiko33 2 Aeargil and Calvadur reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edheliad 145 Posted May 17, 2016 The rights to the non-Hobbit and LotR properties are held by different people. There won't ever be a deal for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickpes 137 Posted May 17, 2016 Fall of Gondolin confirmed! It would be like entering the paradise if such a scenario existed ... Raven do you read? Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvadur 165 Posted May 17, 2016 I don't know how things like that are usually dealt with by companies or if it is common to make companies not tell to much about licenses they buy, but if I would have aquired a new license, I would tell the community. So I would expect FFG to make a note somewhere that we can expect to see things outside of hobbit/lotr. It would be a nice advertisement, too. Is it possible that the rights to use the Name are given, because it's a place in middle-earth mentioned or not? 1 Valdemart reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullroarer Took 996 Posted May 17, 2016 You folks could be blowing their cover too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricedwlit 209 Posted May 18, 2016 One thought to consider: did FFG just create this location (as they've created characters) and had the bad luck to match something the Tolkien used outside of what they hold the license for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wehehe 39 Posted May 18, 2016 In the "upcoming" section of the Edge web (the company which sells lord of the rings in Spain), there's an image showing the hero in Cobas Haven, it will be Na'asiyah. (I am a little disappointed with the increasing number of non-canonical heroes, but... a new hero is a new hero ) http://www.edgeent.com/home/check_public_gallery/edgmec52_es_1_abanico 2 MrMac10 and Valiko33 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecthelion III 382 Posted May 18, 2016 I'll kiss a balrog if Sahir isn't the hero in the last pack. 1 Calvadur reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wehehe 39 Posted May 18, 2016 I really hope we don't get Sahir as hero... in this cycle we'll get Argalad and Na'asiyah as FFG-Made heroes... I hope the rest will be characters from the books. 1 PsychoRocka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valiko33 36 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Na'asiyah has the Corsair an Warrior trait. First character with this trait. I wonder if she has the same abilities as her objective card. 5Th AP = another FFG created Hero, the pattern continues ATS 2 MirlondeATS 5 CaldaraRM 2 Idraen AA 2 RossielAA 5 AmarthiúlFoSC 2 LanwynFoSC 5 Na'asiyah Edited May 18, 2016 by Valiko33 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Constantine 967 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Judging by the previous dispute in the flavor text between Nyashish and Sahir, I'd bet that Nyashish "betrays" him when he betrays us. So, she costs 1 less threat than her stats make total. Makes one wonder what horrors her text box has in store for us. Edited May 18, 2016 by John Constantine 2 banania and Calvadur reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wehehe 39 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I thought exactly the same as you, John Constantine. I hope that at least is good ability which can be trigged only once per game, or something like that... because if it's a drawback... it will be an awful hero with mediocre stats. What is interesting is the possibility of building a secrecy deck with Tactics heroes: with the new Eowyn, Merry, and Na'asiyah, your starting threat will be 20. Edited May 18, 2016 by wehehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banania 275 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Wow, definitely puzzled by this news. I mean, I'd be ok (more than ok) to see Umbar, Corsair, Harad or even Khandish player cards, as I think those people more as "gray" than as "utterly evil", as they were maily manipulated by Sauron. The underdevelopped 'doomed' mechanics would suite rather well those people, in my opinion. BUT, considering we did not even have a single Woodman hero, Eagle hero, few Isengard allies, only one Beorning (except from Beorn), no Silvan Spirit hero (albeit Galadriel could be considered as such), no Thranduil, not much lore Rohan, leadership Noldor and so much stuff still 'missing' in some ways I must forget half of them, I'd rather have those "gray" people developped in a few years only, maybe one dedicated Deluxe each, with 4 heroes, etc. Not now. I still think it's cool, but not now. Edited May 18, 2016 by banania 3 PsychoRocka, Nickpes and wehehe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edheliad 145 Posted May 18, 2016 If they gave us any of those I might be forced to invest in this cycle. Fortunately it's been easy to ignore so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Constantine 967 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I thought exactly the same as you, John Constantine. I hope that at least is good ability which can be trigged only once per game, or something like that... because if it's a drawback... it will be an awful hero with mediocre stats. What is interesting is the possibility of building a secrecy deck with Tactics heroes: with the new Eowyn, Merry, and Na'asiyah, your starting threat will be 20. I think there'll be more of a tradeoff than a drawback. Making a drawback on the 1/2/2/4 hero makes no sense to me, as those stats, to be honest, are pretty bad, and discount of 1 threat cost doesn't makes them any better. Given they just copied her stats from her objective ally version, they might as well copy her first printed action (spend 1 resource from her during the attack to give her +2atk/+2def during that attack). Edited May 18, 2016 by John Constantine 1 AstroSnail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wehehe 39 Posted May 18, 2016 It sounds really plausible. If that, it would be nice to me. A 2 defense, 2 attack hero which can be 4 in any of them by paying 1 resource sounds good, and very similar to some other cards we are getting in this cycle. It looks like the "pay to" it's becoming a new mechanic. 1 Ecthelion III reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoRocka 1,189 Posted May 18, 2016 That link doesn't seem to load for me.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Constantine 967 Posted May 18, 2016 That link doesn't seem to load for me.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites