xanderf 6,795 Posted May 4, 2016 FFG made a point in today's announcement article that the new Falcon model is NOT just the same model with a new sensor dish, but a whole 'new sculpt and paint scheme'. I'm sorry, but I gotta call shens on that? Old model: Render of new model: ...I see...a new sensor dish. That's it. What else am I missing? 8 Futant420, numb3rc, ParaGoomba Slayer and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheapCreep 1,144 Posted May 4, 2016 It's a 3D model, so, I'm not sure?http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/DSC_0626_zps6x61oybs.jpgoriginal.jpgThe new model might look something more along the lines of that... you know, once it's a physical model.Also you overlooked that there's obviously a compressor on the new one. 9 UnfairBanana, AdmiralThrawn, stevensonson and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red 7 610 Posted May 4, 2016 Of course! The Compressor! LOL! I really don't see how there could be a whole new sculpt.... It's the same ship except for the dish! I hope that this is not FFG's first step into the blatant money grab game! 2 kelly1970 and Futant420 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sithborg 11,662 Posted May 4, 2016 The way they have described it, the Falcon varies between the OT movies. So, I'm sure there are some subtle differences we won't be able to tell until we get it in hand. 1 DariusAPB reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikka 1,210 Posted May 4, 2016 The underside might be different as well- maybe the quad laser turret down there is locked in position because of Finn? I guess we'll see when the preview comes out, there is usually a 3D shot of the ship there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobojebus 11,341 Posted May 4, 2016 You're not alone looks pretty similar to me as well. 5 JanW, Futant420, BlackSunSyn and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supertoe 662 Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) Of course! The Compressor! LOL! I really don't see how there could be a whole new sculpt.... It's the same ship except for the dish! I hope that this is not FFG's first step into the blatant money grab game! They made many steps before. Imperial Assault being the key one. but yeah, gotta call shenanigans on that. Edited May 5, 2016 by Toenail 1 Futant420 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meynolt 34 Posted May 5, 2016 Of course! The Compressor! LOL! I really don't see how there could be a whole new sculpt.... It's the same ship except for the dish! I hope that this is not FFG's first step into the blatant money grab game! You mean colored bases and plastic dial upgrades are not money grabs? 3 Futant420, Plainsman and Gadge reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikka 1,210 Posted May 5, 2016 Of course! The Compressor! LOL! I really don't see how there could be a whole new sculpt.... It's the same ship except for the dish! I hope that this is not FFG's first step into the blatant money grab game! You mean colored bases and plastic dial upgrades are not money grabs? I don't know about the dial upgrades, but the bases are something needed. Most miniature games have extra bases for sale, and given how a couple of mine have broken due to a toddler terrorist, needed. 5 Meynolt, BlackSunSyn, maviam and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 11,108 Posted May 5, 2016 Some blaster scoring has been removed, some different paint I think, very small differences.But this proves once and for all, one thing.The TIE/SF is going to get its own model. 11 Admiral Deathrain, DariusAPB, VanorDM and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RKRichar 44 Posted May 5, 2016 Some blaster scoring has been removed, some different paint I think, very small differences. As long as the Batmobile is there, I'm happy. https://youtu.be/7VTLl0WHKKA 1 KCDodger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 11,108 Posted May 5, 2016 Some blaster scoring has been removed, some different paint I think, very small differences. As long as the Batmobile is there, I'm happy. https://youtu.be/7VTLl0WHKKA I honestly wondered about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,363 Posted May 5, 2016 it's a lot more different ito model than the imperial ace interceptors are to the normal ones ditto any ships that come in the ace style expansions re their normal counterparts. they just come with distinct new paint schemes 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xanderf 6,795 Posted May 5, 2016 it's a lot more different ito model than the imperial ace interceptors are to the normal ones ditto any ships that come in the ace style expansions re their normal counterparts. they just come with distinct new paint schemes Well, aside from: 1) FFG specifically said it's a new model 2) I don't see any differences in the paint scheme, either (which really can make a huge difference) 2 NatKayz and Supertoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 11,108 Posted May 5, 2016 it's a lot more different ito model than the imperial ace interceptors are to the normal ones ditto any ships that come in the ace style expansions re their normal counterparts. they just come with distinct new paint schemes And see, all these new models for small differences is really pissing me off. Why? The Royal Guard TIE Interceptor was not done justice, that's why. 3 Parakitor, PanchoX1 and Supertoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DekoPuma 636 Posted May 5, 2016 The new one has black spots atop the central cross piece. They appear to be molded, not painted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,363 Posted May 5, 2016 it's a lot more different ito model than the imperial ace interceptors are to the normal ones ditto any ships that come in the ace style expansions re their normal counterparts. they just come with distinct new paint schemes And see, all these new models for small differences is really pissing me off. Why? The Royal Guard TIE Interceptor was not done justice, that's why. most of those poor interceptors were not done justice 2 HolySorcerer and Supertoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetfire 743 Posted May 5, 2016 What are you talking about with this NEW BUSINESS MODEL stuff? Did you suddenly forget all the other ace packs? This is just another ace pack. It's just more pilots and mods for existing ships. 4 numb3rc, nigeltastic, NotBatman and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NatKayz 10 Posted May 5, 2016 The paintjob is definitely different. Seems darker and dirtier but most of all the engine area is scorched. Very noticably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NakedDex 2,611 Posted May 5, 2016 Unless it looks drastically different, it doesn't justify a new model. That CG render isn't really anything to go by. I imagine the final paint job will be attempting to give it that junkyard craft look it had in the movie, rather than the dodgy-but-serviceable look it had in the originals. That said, a new paintjob still doesn't justify a whole new model expansion any more than the same ship with cosmetic differences so minute that side-by-side pictures are having trouble highlighting them justifies a whole new mold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxam 815 Posted May 5, 2016 FFG made a point in today's announcement article that the new Falcon model is NOT just the same model with a new sensor dish, but a whole 'new sculpt and paint scheme'. I'm sorry, but I gotta call shens on that? ...I see...a new sensor dish. That's it. What else am I missing? There are differences... grab your round-dish YT-1300 and compare these spots: Will it matter to most people that there are differences beyond the radar dish? Probably not. Did FFG really need to go to all the trouble to make another YT-1300 model with tiny differences in detail rather than slap a new paint job/dish on the old model and call it a day? Certainly not. Did FFG really need to make another T-70 model with a different droid as well as a repaint. No. But they did. Yes they are a company and have to make money to stay in business, and yes they are at the mercy of what new and/old ships are introduced in the movies - they may even be contractually obliged to release them in an Episode VII format ... but rather than slap together a repaint of two existing models with a minor change (dish), they went to the effort and trouble to re-model them in keeping with the movie. Why? Because they are Star Wars fans. 15 Sir Orrin, nigeltastic, iamfanboy and 12 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,422 Posted May 5, 2016 it's a lot more different ito model than the imperial ace interceptors are to the normal ones ditto any ships that come in the ace style expansions re their normal counterparts. they just come with distinct new paint schemes And see, all these new models for small differences is really pissing me off.Why? The Royal Guard TIE Interceptor was not done justice, that's why. most of those poor interceptors were not done justice When the Royal Guard Squints show up in a movie then you can gripe all you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red 7 610 Posted May 5, 2016 Of course! The Compressor! LOL! I really don't see how there could be a whole new sculpt.... It's the same ship except for the dish! I hope that this is not FFG's first step into the blatant money grab game! You mean colored bases and plastic dial upgrades are not money grabs? I don't know about the dial upgrades, but the bases are something needed. Most miniature games have extra bases for sale, and given how a couple of mine have broken due to a toddler terrorist, needed. Basses and pegs are fine IMHO because they are, in the case of the dials, unique, and the pegs add variety and can be used as replacement parts. I take issue with "re-releasing" a model that everyone has already (The Falcon) and saying that it is different. The Emperor's new clothes story pops into mind ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes). I do really like the idea of the new pilots and cards that come in the expansion and I am excited to see them, but feel that something a little more like the Scum & Villany Most Wanted expansion would have been a better approach (small ships and lots of cards) as opposed to forcing everyone into having two falcons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllWingsStandyingBy 4,661 Posted May 5, 2016 "But she's got a new hat...!!" 5 Danthrax, DanDoulogos, Frimmel and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
william1134 447 Posted May 5, 2016 I suppose it is tough to say at the moment, considering that what we are seeing is a computer rendering which may not translate exactly to the real model. I imagine that the new model will be a sharper sculpt with a generally better details and paint job, much like the tie vs tie fo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites