droz69 232 Posted May 1, 2016 I'm a bit hazy on the timing of it. Does Hobbie still get the stress or not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagJanson 7,338 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Experts - correct me if I'm wrong - but the timing is... Hobbie does the K turn - the targeting astro provides the target lock - Hobbie gets stress. In combat phase Hobbie spends the target lock and loses the stress. I believe it's this way because the astromech would be timed at completion of the maneuver, and not post stress phase. Edit: Before I collect too many likes on this post - my solution is incorrect. Corrected formula provided below which mathematically disproves the above statement. Edited May 1, 2016 by LagJanson 1 knavelead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueLeader42 1,001 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Edit: Ninja'd Edited May 1, 2016 by RougeLeader Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droz69 232 Posted May 1, 2016 Ok, thanks guys. I think because theres only 1 red maneuver, he's still better with R2-D6 and Push the Limit. It does make for some really fun 4K maneuvering, almost giving him the same ability at the Defenders 4K. 1 knavelead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krewal 27 Posted May 1, 2016 Hobbie does K, gets stress, astro gives TL, clear stress, perform focus action. 5 Jarval, banjobenito, SlaveofChrist and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KovuTalli 178 Posted May 1, 2016 Targeting Astro triggers "after you execute a red move" so you complete the move, then Targeting astromech triggers, so you clear stress. 2 FTS Gecko and Jarval reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dosiere 478 Posted May 1, 2016 I'll have to review the correct order of things, but I think you can still perform an action as the stress clears before the check pilot stress phase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banjobenito 1,393 Posted May 1, 2016 Beautifully. 2 Jarval and Dr Zoidberg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corellian Corvette 1,733 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) so give hobbie an engine upgrade too for post K-turn positioning? This might replace my R7-T1+Interface combo on Hobbie Edited May 1, 2016 by Corellian Corvette 1 knavelead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagJanson 7,338 Posted May 1, 2016 Yep. I was wrong. Rule book shows that check pilot stress is part of the maneuver phase before clean up, but the whole process is considered "executing" the maneuver. That means Krewal was the first with the correct answer. Wish he put the 'why' in so I didn't have to go read for myself. I wanted to be lazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droz69 232 Posted May 1, 2016 Hrm. Ok, that does make him a lot more enticing with Targeting astromech then. Very Interesting. On that same note, R5-K6 seems to work smashingly well with Dutch Vander too. 1 knavelead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dosiere 478 Posted May 1, 2016 Yeah, basically you can k turn and then TL and focus. It's pretty sweet, but the sheer predictability of it makes it easy to counter. He'd be downright dangerous with either a boost or an EpT slot. Boost is so expensive though and takes up your IA slot, and sadly no EpT to pimp him out with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obi Juan Kenobi 63 Posted May 1, 2016 I took him to a tournament in Jan and nobody knew about this combination in the area at the time, the look on peoples faces as I did it was priceless! Won the tournament from 30 players and Hobbie was my only pilot to survive every game. Best 27 points in the game for me. 1 Antipodean Ork reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hells Bells 23 Posted May 1, 2016 Yes...I used him and people lost their monds...he performed awesomely!!! 1 knavelead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,073 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Take That Defender, You're not the only ship with White K-turns! I can see a rivalry between Countess and Hobbie. Edited May 2, 2016 by Marinealver 3 SlaveofChrist, IvlerIin and X Wing Nut reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IvlerIin 573 Posted May 2, 2016 Take That Defender, You're not the only ship with White K-turns! I can see a rivalry between Countess and Hobbie. Porkins says "hi" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mef82 366 Posted May 2, 2016 Would be such a great combo if he had an EPT for Stay on Target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droz69 232 Posted May 2, 2016 Would be such a great combo if he had an EPT for Stay on Target. While absolutely amazing, i could also aee that as absolutely broken, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Zoidberg 3,200 Posted May 2, 2016 On that same note, R5-K6 seems to work smashingly well with Dutch Vander too. Theoretically, yes. However, you are still relying on rolling an evade. At least Hobbie + TA works every time he does a red move. Only problem is he only has that single red move. An EPT slot - so you could give him SoT - would make him even more viable. Fingers crossed for an eventual 'T-65 Fix' that does just that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites