Is FFG going to do anything about this?

[Kloud 7]

Edited March 13, 2016 by Kloud

[Brianish 153]

That is... actually a pretty good point. 

And while we're on the subject 

[Icelom 3,386]

Outer rim smuggler sucks, just because there is another similar ship does not mean it needs to suck...

 

You should compare it to the Wild Space Fringer (yt-2400), and then get really mad. (its also a better comparison) 

 

Edit: Thank you OP for adding the space fringer to your post.

Edited March 13, 2016 by Icelom

[Tokyogriz 697]

Just toss out the outer rim Smuggler.  Its only use is for collecting cards not actual play.

 

A cheap B wing with crew is better than Outer Rim Smuggler.

 

Really going to enjoy the U wing.

[Sithborg 11,513]

What's the issue? 

[Hobojebus 11,341]

What's the issue?

Clearly the scouts too cheap.

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

Is FFG going to do anything about it?

 

It looks like the answer is yes: starting in Wave 8, they're going to start pricing 2-attack turrets in such a way that you can use them without handicapping your list.

[iamfanboy 1,302]

What's the issue? 

Comparing the two the Scout has -1 Hull, +1 Agility, +2 PS, a better dial, -1 Crew, +2 Torpedoes, +1 EPT, +1 Salvaged Astromech, +1 Illicit, Evade Action... for two points less.

 

If that isn't an aknowledgement the Outer Rim Smuggler is overpriced, I'm not sure what else would be.

 

At least the Wild Space Fringer has a Cannon slot... Nope, still overpriced.

 

Gods, I wish they'd just nut up and release a Card Pack like the Malifaux Arsenal packs of reprised cards.

Edited March 13, 2016 by iamfanboy

[Crackin Dirty 80]

They are doing something about it. They are selling a ton of Scouts.

 

To be fair though I don't think the intent of the developer was to have multiples of large base ships when they first came out. You bought that exp for the Falcon, not to run 3 or 4 smugglers. Things have changed and large based ships are seen to be good in multiples (Brobots for example). 

 

I really don't want to see a fix for the smuggler (don't need a reason to buy more than one Falcon), just doesn't seem right to see one that isn't the Falcon on the table in the first place.

[Tokyogriz 697]

U wing is going to help Scum catch up on other factions for sure.  Its flat out awesome.

 

They NEVER release "Fixed" pilot cards and have pretty much stated they never will.

 

Just keep your useless Wild Space Fringer and Outer Rim Smugglers for the card collection they will never see any actual use.  Named pilots for those ships are still DD great.

[CaineHoA 245]

You mean do anything about klick bait topics? Just give a quick hint what you are writing about in the header thats what it is there for isnt it?

[Ken at Sunrise 2,064]

You mean do anything about klick bait topics? Just give a quick hint what you are writing about in the header thats what it is there for isnt it?

 

Uhh but we all clicked didn't we?

[ficklegreendice 34,359]

 

What's the issue?

Clearly the scouts too cheap.

 

 

it's actually literally 100% the opposite issue

 

(the others are antiquated design-wise and way overpriced)

[Reiver 2,238]

I do wonder a little. They've made it very cheap for what you're getting.

 

I wonder how much they're pinning on that asymmetrical dial.

[Parakitor 5,583]

Does anybody remember Rebel Convoy?

2x Outer Rim Smuggler

2x Gold Sq. Pilot + Ion Cannon Turret

That squad was a beast. Sure the Contracted Scout is cheaper with better PS and customizability, but Scum sure needs some competitive ship (or so people say). Besides, isn't the dial going to make it a bit harder to master?

[ficklegreendice 34,359]

I do wonder a little. They've made it very cheap for what you're getting.

 

I wonder how much they're pinning on that asymmetrical dial.

 

nah that's part of the expense

 

see, the profile's so "good" because it's a K-wing on a larger and therefore far more difficult to control base

 

the K-wing is so disgustingly inefficient that you never see it without the TLT tactician combo or Miranda (hopefully Conner Ks soon)

 

 

jumpie over here is also disgustingly inefficient ito naked statline. He's priced just fine; the others are horrendously priced

 

 

the main difference between the lot is the scout will see play; the other jokers won't

Edited March 14, 2016 by ficklegreendice

[Hoffburger 206]

Is FFG going to do anything about this? Astromech slot, boost, better dial, for only 3 more points?

 

 

 

 

 

Every faction gets ships that are going to be good when compared to other faction alternatives.

[dgenest 1]

Time will tell, i just hope they didn't unintentionally break the game by not foreseeing this

[Hawkstrike 5,372]

Well, except that for the T-70 vs Khiraxz comparison to be accurate to WSF vs CS, the T-70 would be 3 points less.

Make Contracted Scout a unique. Solved ... no risk of torpedo boat spam.

[Marinealver 8,068]

Is FFG going to do anything about this? Astromech slot, boost, better dial, for only 3 more points?

 

 

 

 

 

Every faction gets ships that are going to be good when compared to other faction alternatives.

With the Ruthless freelancer costing 1 more than the Blue Squadron Pilot and having worse stats that is another one the rebels got on scum.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Marinealver

[jocke01 783]

^ not really the same


I do actually don't mind at all that the outer rim smuggler sucks. sure it would make for yet another option in lists but if someone is

gonna play with a yt-1300 it should be the falcon, it would just look weird otherwise (and feel weird).

I guess the same can be said about the outrider but if you aren't very familiar with shadows of the empire (your loss) it's not that big of an issue and I could see 2 or 3 yt-2400 hundred on a mat if someone really wanted it. 

 

For the jumpmaster it's not as iconic since it's even more deep into the old EU than the outrider and it's the scum faction so seing multiple jumpmasters wouldn't be weird to most people, and I rather they make the generic good from the start instead of making the same mistakes as before.

 

you can actually see a trend here. First generic large pwt is super bad, next one is just pretty bad but playable if you want to and the new one is actually playable and pretty good. I rather they get 1 out of 3 right then all 3 wrong so gj ffg you might FINALLY  be learning. (you only had to frak up the starviper generics also before you learned  )

The other two generics just get to join the could have been great room of cool pilots along the likes of generic e-wing and lt lorrir. There they will sit and wait for never to be released uppdated cards or the coming of a new age in an x-wing 1.5.

Edited March 14, 2016 by jocke01

[Marinealver 8,068]

you forgot patrol leader.

[Tokyogriz 697]

Marinealver, on 13 Mar 2016 - 6:50 PM, said:

 

Kloud, on 13 Mar 2016 - 4:46 PM, said:

you forgot patrol leader.

 

Patrol Leader is useable with Palp or palp and company.  Generic YT-1300 and YT-2400 are not actually useable.

[Hobojebus 11,341]

What's the issue?

Clearly the scouts too cheap.

 

it's actually literally 100% the opposite issue

 

(the others are antiquated design-wise and way overpriced)

Yes there in was the joke.

[Conandoodle 1,817]

Oh, I thought you wanted them to do something about clickbait posts