Firespray-32 5,424 Posted March 2, 2016 At 21, 23, 24, 25 I think we'd see a lot more Yorr. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomFO 8,979 Posted March 2, 2016 At 21, 23, 24, 25 I think we'd see a lot more Yorr. Yorr is, frankly, a stud. He's the only named shuttle pilot who's really worth using in a 100-point game. His range 1-2 buffer allows him makes him the Imperial's best defense against the stress meta, allowing for shenanigans like K-turning a Phantom or using PTL while inside a stresshog's firing arc. He'll only get better once Electronic Baffle comes out and increases the amount of stress he can eat during a turn. I got stomped a couple weeks ago by a delightful Palp/Aces build that used Yorr with Palp and FCS instead of a regular shuttle, exchanging Soontir for a VI Juno Eclipse. There was basically no point in using R3-A2 against him, as he could minimize the stress effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,424 Posted March 2, 2016 Personally I'd love to see a Comms Technician crew member for the Lambda that allows them to treat Range 1 on equipped cards as Range 1-2 and Range 1-2 as Range 1-3. That'd allow:Range 1 -> Range 1-2 Captain Yorr Saboteur Autoblaster Range 1-2 -> Range 1-3 Colonel JendonFleet Officer Mara Jade Intelligence Agent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panic 217 1,857 Posted March 2, 2016 Personally I'd love to see a Comms Technician crew member for the Lambda that allows them to treat Range 1 on equipped cards as Range 1-2 and Range 1-2 as Range 1-3. That'd allow: Range 1 -> Range 1-2 Captain Yorr Saboteur Autoblaster Range 1-2 -> Range 1-3 Colonel Jendon Fleet Officer Mara Jade Intelligence Agent problem is, unless you limit it to Lamba only the card would buff Rear Admiral's ability. Scum Fetts ability and Rhymers ability (shuttle title).... Actually.... you know what, thats fine, limit it to Imperial and i feel like thats a pretty good card. Only problem is which expansion would it come in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,424 Posted March 2, 2016 Hence "for the Lambda." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treybert 893 Posted March 2, 2016 As per kagi, he's not super useful now. But the question is, how much would you pay to pacify LRS and GC alpha lists? Granted he'll go down in a swarm of missiles, but isn't that worth it to save the baron from a barrage of homing missiles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panic 217 1,857 Posted March 2, 2016 Hence "for the Lambda." but unless they release a "Lambda Shuttle Aces" (which theres been no large ship 'aces' packs) i dont see them just arbitrarily adding it to a future expansion, however if it was an imp crew only it could end up in a... say Imperial Veterans pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomFO 8,979 Posted March 2, 2016 As per kagi, he's not super useful now. But the question is, how much would you pay to pacify LRS and GC alpha lists? Granted he'll go down in a swarm of missiles, but isn't that worth it to save the baron from a barrage of homing missiles? Not 27 points, especially since he doesn't work on Target Locks from Fire-Control Systems, Tracers, or anything that requires a Focus token to fire (Tracers, Prockets, and Deadeye). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealStarkiller 3,446 Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) 21 points for the basic shuttle is reasonable. Yorr is ok. His ability could be range 1-3, but ok. If Jendon would be 25 points his ability is still too restricted to be of use. Better let him at 26 points but rise the range of his ability to 1-2. And Kagi is just a meatbag - this wouldn't change if he would be 26 points instead ... although you could get a 30 point package with Kagi + Sensor Jammer. Still I fear Kagi would not be much of use in 100 point matches, even for 26 points. Edited March 2, 2016 by TheRealStarkiller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treybert 893 Posted March 2, 2016 As per kagi, he's not super useful now. But the question is, how much would you pay to pacify LRS and GC alpha lists? Granted he'll go down in a swarm of missiles, but isn't that worth it to save the baron from a barrage of homing missiles? Not 27 points, especially since he doesn't work on Target Locks from Fire-Control Systems, Tracers, or anything that requires a Focus token to fire (Tracers, Prockets, and Deadeye). This is true. I also feel like his PS 8 is a hinderance. Much better suited to around 5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,424 Posted March 2, 2016 Given we can adjust points in this scenario, why not adjust pilot skill too?Omicron, PS2, 21 points Yorr, PS3, 23 points Jendon, PS3, 23 points Kagi, PS3, 23 points but unless they release a "Lambda Shuttle Aces" (which theres been no large ship 'aces' packs) i dont see them just arbitrarily adding it to a future expansion, however if it was an imp crew only it could end up in a... say Imperial Veterans pack. Which does happen to include an unspoiled crew member... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panic 217 1,857 Posted March 2, 2016 Given we can adjust points in this scenario, why not adjust pilot skill too? Omicron, PS2, 21 points Yorr, PS3, 23 points Jendon, PS3, 23 points Kagi, PS3, 23 points but unless they release a "Lambda Shuttle Aces" (which theres been no large ship 'aces' packs) i dont see them just arbitrarily adding it to a future expansion, however if it was an imp crew only it could end up in a... say Imperial Veterans pack. Which does happen to include an unspoiled crew member... the title of which might have something to do with just this topic, however the mention of 'Maneuver' leads me to believe otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealStarkiller 3,446 Posted March 2, 2016 Another way to fix the shuttles is to reduce the title to 0 points. Its an auto-incluse for Jendon - he starts at 26 + 3 = 29 points either way - which is just too much. And it would be useful for all other shuttle pilots. Not only to be a perfect support for Vessery. So let the shuttle pilots where they are and reduce the title to 0 points instead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted March 2, 2016 Title: Imperial Command Ship- Lambda Shuttle Only, Named Pilot only. 2pts: You may equip 5pts of Crew, Systems, Or Modifications for free. You MUST equip at least 1 crew card. You may equip a second title. Basically a 3pt upgrade for the named ships that also requires you to fill 2 of your slots. I don't think that's too overpowered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites