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So quick question regarding these packs , i'm interested in buying a few but just want to know if i can simply use the monster's in the shadow rune & heirs of blood campaign to give me extra choice as the Overlord ??

Hope this question makes sense.

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With my first playthrough of the shadow rune campaign as overlord I used monsters from the Bonds of the Wild M&H pack. They are a good way to add more variety in what you can field as an Overlord. The H&M packs are pricy though. I have now got Crown of Destiny and Guardians of Deephall. Looking forward to running my next campaign.

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The official rule states that you should determine the expansion and H&M pack that you're going to use at the start of a campaign, you shouldn't had new expansion or H&M pack in the course of a campaign.

 

But our houserule (and I'm sure we're not alone), as soon as an expansion is bought, we add the content to our existing campaign. 

Edited by DarthButchbrune

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The official rule states that you should determine the expansion and M&H pack that you're going to use at the start of a campaign, you shouldn't had new expansion or M&H pack in the course of a campaign.

 

But our houserule (and I'm sure we're not alone), as soon as an expansion is bought, we add the content to our existing campaign. 

Are there people who have to patience to wait?:P

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As the others have mentioned the monsters can be put into any campaign via open groups. However the only quests where they will be a default monster group are the 2 rumor quests that come in the pack.

A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).

On a different note, are there any European, specifically UK, players who have been able to get a hold of treaty of champions? All my usual regular and reliable stockists have not seen the product. Best i have found is an Amazon seller going for £40+ which is bonkers. 

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Cheers for the info folks.

What are these rumour cards ?

So basically any monster from any expansion whether it be from big box expansions , small box expansions or monster and hero expansions your able to use in both the base campaigns as long as the open monster group traits matches ?

I plan to crush my mate and want a good selection of these deadly demons hahahahahaha

I shall do a bit of research and see what trait gets used the most in both the campaigns.

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Rumor cards are extra 'events' the overlord can play. Most of these feature extra quests. (the H&M packs only have quests, some small box expansions have others)

These quests can be played during a full campaign (Shadow Rune, LoR, SoN, HoB) as extra quests on top of the normal available quests.

 

 

A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).

 

Work in progress info from my campaign tracker (monsters with matching traits can be found here - http://d2etracker.com/stats_monsters.php)

This a sum of all traits (per encounter) of every quest, per expansion:

 

The Shadow Rune

17 x cave
14 x dark
13 x cursed
13 x mountain
10 x wilderness
10 x civilized
9 x building
5 x water
5 x cold
5 x hot
4 x all
 

Lair of the Wyrm

4 x civilized
4 x building
4 x wilderness
3 x hot
2 x mountain
2 x cave
1 x cursed
 

Labyrinth of Ruin

14 x building
12 x wilderness
11 x mountain
11 x cursed
9 x water
7 x hot
6 x civilized
5 x cave
4 x dark
3 x cold
 

The Trollfens

4 x water
3 x wilderness
3 x dark
2 x building
2 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x cold
1 x civilized
 

Shadow of Nerekhall

17 x hot
16 x cursed
11 x civilized
10 x building
7 x water
7 x cave
7 x dark
5 x wilderness
1 x mountain
1 x cold
 

Manor of Ravens

6 x cursed
6 x building
2 x water
2 x wilderness
1 x dark
1 x cave
1 x civilized
 

Crusade of the Forgotten

2 x mountain
1 x cave
1 x hot
 

Oath of the Outcast

1 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x mountain
1 x wilderness
 

Crown of Destiny

2 x mountain
1 x cave
1 x hot
 

Guardians of Deephall

2 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x civilized
 

Heirs of Blood

20 x building
16 x cursed
12 x wilderness
11 x cave
9 x dark
7 x mountain
6 x hot
5 x civilized
4 x water
3 x all
2 x cold
 

Visions of Dawn

2 x wilderness
2 x mountain
 

Bonds of the Wild

2 x cursed
1 x building
1 x dark
1 x hot
1 x cave
 

Mists of Bilehall

5 x wilderness
4 x cursed
3 x cave
2 x water
2 x mountain
2 x civilized
1 x hot
1 x cold
1 x building
 

Treaty of Champions

2 x cursed
2 x building
1 x dark
1 x cave
1 x water
1 x wilderness

Edited by Atom4geVampire

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Cheers for the info folks.

What are these rumour cards ?

So basically any monster from any expansion whether it be from big box expansions , small box expansions or monster and hero expansions your able to use in both the base campaigns as long as the open monster group traits matches ?

I plan to crush my mate and want a good selection of these deadly demons hahahahahaha

I shall do a bit of research and see what trait gets used the most in both the campaigns.

 

Rumor cards are a concept originally introduced in the small box expansions - they let the overlord choose to add extra quests to a campaign to integrate the smaller campaign quests into a big box campaign. The hero and monster packs provide an additional quest via the rumor mechanic as well. They are optional and for your first campaign or two i would personally recommend that they be left alone, if both parties are not fully up on the game they can really swing a campaign balance around. 

 

I think your out of luck at the moment for Treaty of Champions at the moment. I always use boardgameprices for atock checks

Thank you for the website name though, not one ive used before but useful for the data.

 

 

Rumor cards are extra 'events' the overlord can play. Most of these feature extra quests. (the H&M packs only have quests, some small box expansions have others)

These quests can be played during a full campaign (Shadow Rune, LoR, SoN, HoB) as extra quests on top of the normal available quests.

 

 

A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).

 

Work in progress info from my campaign tracker (monsters with matching traits can be found here - http://d2etracker.com/stats_monsters.php)

This a sum of all traits (per encounter) of every quest, per expansion:

 

The Shadow Rune

17 x cave

14 x dark

13 x cursed

13 x mountain

10 x wilderness

10 x civilized

9 x building

5 x water

5 x cold

5 x hot

4 x all

 

Lair of the Wyrm

4 x civilized

4 x building

4 x wilderness

3 x hot

2 x mountain

2 x cave

1 x cursed

 

Labyrinth of Ruin

14 x building

12 x wilderness

11 x mountain

11 x cursed

9 x water

7 x hot

6 x civilized

5 x cave

4 x dark

3 x cold

 

The Trollfens

4 x water

3 x wilderness

3 x dark

2 x building

2 x cursed

1 x cave

1 x cold

1 x civilized

 

Shadow of Nerekhall

17 x hot

16 x cursed

11 x civilized

10 x building

7 x water

7 x cave

7 x dark

5 x wilderness

1 x mountain

1 x cold

 

Manor of Ravens

6 x cursed

6 x building

2 x water

2 x wilderness

1 x dark

1 x cave

1 x civilized

 

Crusade of the Forgotten

2 x mountain

1 x cave

1 x hot

 

Oath of the Outcast

1 x cursed

1 x cave

1 x mountain

1 x wilderness

 

Crown of Destiny

2 x mountain

1 x cave

1 x hot

 

Guardians of Deephall

2 x cursed

1 x cave

1 x civilized

 

Heirs of Blood

20 x building

16 x cursed

12 x wilderness

11 x cave

9 x dark

7 x mountain

6 x hot

5 x civilized

4 x water

3 x all

2 x cold

 

Visions of Dawn

2 x wilderness

2 x mountain

 

Bonds of the Wild

2 x cursed

1 x building

1 x dark

1 x hot

1 x cave

 

Mists of Bilehall

5 x wilderness

4 x cursed

3 x cave

2 x water

2 x mountain

2 x civilized

1 x hot

1 x cold

1 x building

 

Treaty of Champions

2 x cursed

2 x building

1 x dark

1 x cave

1 x water

1 x wilderness

Atom, you are a gentleman and a scholar sir. Excellent data provision. 

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