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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.

 

I'm curious, where these Whispers running Agent Kalus? He seems like a good fit on a phantom.

 

 

Yeah, I was one of those top 4.  Kallus is indispensable.

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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.

 

I'm curious, where these Whispers running Agent Kalus? He seems like a good fit on a phantom.

 

 

Yeah, I was one of those top 4.  Kallus is indispensable.

 

Could you elaborate please?

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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.

 

I'm curious, where these Whispers running Agent Kalus? He seems like a good fit on a phantom.

 

 

Yeah, I was one of those top 4.  Kallus is indispensable.

 

Could you elaborate please?

 

 

A Kallus Phantom list stomped me in the Semi Final in Atlanta.

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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.
There wasn't much representation from San Diego in the top 4 cut. It was mostly guys from further up North that made their way down South for the tournament.

 

Ahhhh. That's Mynock Squadron territory, yes?

 

We always say "someone forgot to tell SoCal that the Phantom was nerfed".

 

Hey, as long as no one takes a 1-3pt hard-counter upgrade... :P

 

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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.

I'm curious, where these Whispers running Agent Kalus? He seems like a good fit on a phantom.

 

Yeah, I was one of those top 4.  Kallus is indispensable.

Could you elaborate please?

 

A Kallus Phantom list stomped me in the Semi Final in Atlanta.

Did Kallus really make that big of a difference?

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The Phantom is indeed fine. I actually prefer it now because it does really reward good planning and piloting. As opposed to the pure reactive plays you made back then that allowed for no counter or got hard countered.

As i said in another post. People tend to throw stuff overboard at the slightest sign that it could not be the most OP cookie cutter list anymore. It's a psychological effect i guess.

But the few Phantom players kept making pretty good showings during all this time.

Now Kallus is really good in a 2-3 ship meta. One question of faith remains for me.

Did they run FCS or Semsor jammer on them? Jammers are ideal against TLTs, but FCS is the staple and cheaper...

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Pair-A-Dice in San Diego had their Store Championship on 1/9. 35 ppl in attendance, 5 rounds (75 mins), Top 4 cut. I'm hoping the lists will be uploaded to juggler soon, but 3 of the 4 Top 4 builds had Whisper and the other was a Tie Swarm.

2 Whisper + Palpmobile

Whisper + Chiraneau

6 ship Tie Swarm

The Whisper/Chiraneau defeated the Tie Swarm in the finals.

Man. San Diego likes them some Imperials.
I'm curious, where these Whispers running Agent Kalus? He seems like a good fit on a phantom.
 

Yeah, I was one of those top 4.  Kallus is indispensable.

Could you elaborate please?
 

A Kallus Phantom list stomped me in the Semi Final in Atlanta.

Did Kallus really make that big of a difference?

Allowed an unfocused Phantom to roll 5 hits, but it admittedly only matteted on the one attack, because his Decimator finished it off.

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Gauntlet Games, Lincoln, NE. Jan 16
29 Players

 

Winner: Brad Miller

 

Top 4 (in order, after Swiss):

Me

Omicron Group Pilot

+ Palpatine

Darth Vader

+ TIE/x1

+ Adv.Targeting Computer

+ Engine Upgrade

+ Crack Shot

Soontir Fel

+ Push the Limit

+ Royal Guard TIE

+ Autothrusters

+ Stealth Device

 

Brad Miller

Omicron Group Pilot

+ Palpatine

"Omega Leader"

+ Comm Relay

+ Juke

+ Stealth Device

"Whisper"

+ Agent Kallus

+ Veteran Instincts

+ Advanced Cloaking Device

+ Fire Control System

 

Ian Straight

Miranda Doni

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ Tactician

Ello Asty

+ Autothrusters

+ R2-D2

+ Veteran Instincts

Gold Squadron Pilot

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ R3-A2

+ BTL-A4

 

Aaron (somebody)

Miranda Doni

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ Tactician

Ello Asty

+ Autothrusters

+ R2-D2

+ Veteran Instincts

Gold Squadron Pilot

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ R3-A2

I'm pretty certain about the #3 and #4 lists... I didn't play Ian, but I did play someone that apparently played the exact same list. And then Aaron's list was the same except the Y-Wing didn't have a title.

 

Brad and I both won our Top 4 matches. Brad, having fallen to me in round 4 (of 5) during swiss, pulled out a crushing defeat in the final match.

Edited by OrangeJedi

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Gauntlet Games, Lincoln, NE. Jan 16

29 Players

 

Top 4:

Me

Omicron Group Pilot

+ Palpatine

Darth Vader

+ TIE/x1

+ Adv.Targeting Computer

+ Engine Upgrade

+ Crack Shot

Soontir Fel

+ Push the Limit

+ Royal Guard TIE

+ Autothrusters

+ Stealth Device

 

Brad Miller

Omicron Group Pilot

+ Palpatine

"Omega Leader"

+ Comm Relay

+ Juke

+ Stealth Device

"Whisper"

+ Agent Kallus

+ Veteran Instincts

+ Advanced Cloaking Device

+ Fire Control System

 

Ian Straight

Miranda Doni

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ Tactician

Ello Asty

+ Autothrusters

+ R2-D2

+ Veteran Instincts

Gold Squadron Pilot

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ R3-A2

+ BTL-A4

 

Aaron (somebody)

Miranda Doni

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ Tactician

Ello Asty

+ Autothrusters

+ R2-D2

+ Veteran Instincts

Gold Squadron Pilot

+ Twin Laser Turret

+ R3-A2

I'm pretty certain about the #3 and #4 lists... I didn't play Ian, but I did play someone that apparently played the exact same list. And then Aaron's list was the same except the Y-Wing didn't have a title.

 

Brad and I both won our Top 4 matches. Brad, having fallen to me in round 4 (of 5) during swiss, pulled out a crushing defeat in the final match.

 

So, Brad won it all?  I had actually assumed based on the order that you had until I read the last couple of sentences! ;)

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Gauntlet Games, Lincoln, NE. Jan 16

29 Players

 

Top 4:

~snip~

I'm pretty certain about the #3 and #4 lists... I didn't play Ian, but I did play someone that apparently played the exact same list. And then Aaron's list was the same except the Y-Wing didn't have a title.

 

Brad and I both won our Top 4 matches. Brad, having fallen to me in round 4 (of 5) during swiss, pulled out a crushing defeat in the final match.

 

So, Brad won it all?  I had actually assumed based on the order that you had until I read the last couple of sentences! ;)

 

Yeah, sorry, slightly misleading. That was the order going into top 4.

Edited by OrangeJedi

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Oh, he wouldn't have shed any. Don't you know that flying turrets is fine so long as you use generics and only one other upgrade?

 

I mean, really, Obi, get with the program!  :P

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Many tears of joy. I was a big proponent of flying quad TLT when it came out to shove fat turrets from the meta, seeing it as a taste of turretwing player's own medicine, showing them how it feels to drown in turrets.

 

The quad TLT player didn't even know that Interceptors had 2 hard greens. His opponent assumed he would account for a 2 green and did a 1 hard with Soontir, which the TLT player correctly guessed because he didn't think Interceptors had 2 greens and it won him a game.

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Many tears of joy. I was a bring proponent of flying quad TLT when it came out to shove fat turrets from the meta, seeing it as a taste of turretwing player's own medicine, showing them how it feels to drown in turrets.

 

The quad TLT player didn't even know that Interceptors had 2 hard greens. His opponent assumed he would account for a 2 green and did a 1 hard with Soontir, which the TLT player correctly guessed because he didn't think Interceptors had 2 greens and it won him a game.

 

Wait.... You hate fat turrets because they take no skill to fly, right?

 

And you're ecstatic that a quad TLT player won who didn't even know that a Tie Interceptor had a green hard 2..?

 

Nothing against the player. That's fantastic for him, and I am happy to hear when a new player finds success.  But, considering this example seems to show that quad TLT suffers from the exact same "easy mode" flying that fat turrets do, I'm just a bit baffled I guess.

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Many tears of joy. I was a bring proponent of flying quad TLT when it came out to shove fat turrets from the meta, seeing it as a taste of turretwing player's own medicine, showing them how it feels to drown in turrets.

 

The quad TLT player didn't even know that Interceptors had 2 hard greens. His opponent assumed he would account for a 2 green and did a 1 hard with Soontir, which the TLT player correctly guessed because he didn't think Interceptors had 2 greens and it won him a game.

 

Wait.... You hate fat turrets because they take no skill to fly, right?

 

And you're ecstatic that a quad TLT player won who didn't even know that a Tie Interceptor had a green hard 2..?

 

Nothing against the player. That's fantastic for him, and I am happy to hear when a new player finds success.  But, considering this example seems to show that quad TLT suffers from the exact same "easy mode" flying that fat turrets do, I'm just a bit baffled I guess.

 

I can only like this post once. :(

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Many tears of joy. I was a bring proponent of flying quad TLT when it came out to shove fat turrets from the meta, seeing it as a taste of turretwing player's own medicine, showing them how it feels to drown in turrets.

 

The quad TLT player didn't even know that Interceptors had 2 hard greens. His opponent assumed he would account for a 2 green and did a 1 hard with Soontir, which the TLT player correctly guessed because he didn't think Interceptors had 2 greens and it won him a game.

 

Wait.... You hate fat turrets because they take no skill to fly, right?

 

And you're ecstatic that a quad TLT player won who didn't even know that a Tie Interceptor had a green hard 2..?

 

Nothing against the player. That's fantastic for him, and I am happy to hear when a new player finds success.  But, considering this example seems to show that quad TLT suffers from the exact same "easy mode" flying that fat turrets do, I'm just a bit baffled I guess.

 

 

It's vengeance for the previous year of facing nothing but fat turretwing squads. It proves my point that any child smearing ice cream on his face can do well with turrets because the game at that point might as well be Candyland.

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At Eternal Games in Warren, Michigan last Saturday quad TLT, quad Unhinged took first.

How many tears did you shed?

 

Many tears of joy. I was a bring proponent of flying quad TLT when it came out to shove fat turrets from the meta, seeing it as a taste of turretwing player's own medicine, showing them how it feels to drown in turrets.

 

The quad TLT player didn't even know that Interceptors had 2 hard greens. His opponent assumed he would account for a 2 green and did a 1 hard with Soontir, which the TLT player correctly guessed because he didn't think Interceptors had 2 greens and it won him a game.

 

Wait.... You hate fat turrets because they take no skill to fly, right?

 

And you're ecstatic that a quad TLT player won who didn't even know that a Tie Interceptor had a green hard 2..?

 

Nothing against the player. That's fantastic for him, and I am happy to hear when a new player finds success.  But, considering this example seems to show that quad TLT suffers from the exact same "easy mode" flying that fat turrets do, I'm just a bit baffled I guess.

 

 

It's vengeance for the previous year of facing nothing but fat turretwing squads. It proves my point that any child smearing ice cream on his face can do well with turrets because the game at that point might as well be Candyland.

 

So you're happy the guy won but you're calling him a messy child. Ok, fine, I'll say it.

 

You're a jerk.

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It's vengeance for the previous year of facing nothing but fat turretwing squads. It proves my point that any child smearing ice cream on his face can do well with turrets because the game at that point might as well be Candyland.

 

For heaven's sake, Goomba, why are you wasting your time on a game you clearly no longer enjoy?

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It's vengeance for the previous year of facing nothing but fat turretwing squads. It proves my point that any child smearing ice cream on his face can do well with turrets because the game at that point might as well be Candyland.

 

For heaven's sake, Goomba, why are you wasting your time on a game you clearly no longer enjoy?

 

I generally enjoy it. Despite how much I complain the current Acewing meta is much better than fat turretwing.

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