Wretch 109 Posted December 27, 2015 I have been trying to figure out a good imperial control list. I am looking at the new Defender but I wanted to get the board's opinion on this idea. Kath Scarlet (38) Rebel Captive (3) Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46) Emperor Palpatine (8) Total: 95 View in Yet Another Squad Builder The idea is that the Emperor changes Kath's attack roll to a critical to insure stress. I am looking at adding th calculation EPT to Kath and changing Rebel captive to Recon Spec so Kath can generate her own criticals. That would leave 4 points for additional upgrades. I might put rebel captive on the admiral or maybe expose or predator to give some extra punch. Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blade_mercurial 2,091 Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) I find the best way to activate Kath's ability is the following build: Predator, Mangler & Gunner = 50 Its a bit expensive though, but it works pretty good. Predator gives you an extra chance at fishing for a crit, and if you get one and the opponent evades it, gunner kicks in for another shot. Obviously, you get a crit automatically in the front arc thanks to mangler. Instead of Chiraneau, you can run her alongside Whisper: Kath w/ predator, 'mangler', gunner, engine upgrade & ion bomb = 56 Whisper w/ Veteran instincts, FCS, ACD & rebel captive = 42 98 Ion bomb is doubly scary here, because of the possibility of leaving a target (maybe even more than one) ioned and stressed... Edited December 27, 2015 by blade_mercurial 1 Deepspace5 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ObiWonka 7,040 Posted December 27, 2015 You could even, if you wanted to ignore the initiative bid, put Kath in the Slave I and add Extra Munitions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deepspace5 187 Posted December 27, 2015 Agree with the above responses fully. Until the TIE Shuttle comes out, this is probably the most potent type of Imperial Control. The thing about control is that unless you can have multiple double stressing components (such as KO's 3x K-Wings w/ Tacticians), you really want to maximize your offense while owning the battle through control mechanics. RAC w/o at least Engine Upgrade and VI is a soft target IMO. If you don't want to switch to whisper, I would at least downgrade to Oicunn and use Ion Projectors with the Emperor. This way if you were able to get an enemy ace at just the right angle, you can set up the block (or ram if they are lower PS) and automatically get Ion Projector to trigger via Emperor. Tactician on the firespray is also a great way to get extra stress out there if you are low on points. It might look something like this: Captain Oicunn (55) VT-49 Decimator (42), Emperor Palpatine (8), Mara Jade (3), Ion Projector (2) Kath Scarlet (45) Firespray-31 (38), “Mangler” Cannon (4), Veteran Instincts (1), Tactician (2) 2 ObiWonka and blade_mercurial reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krynn007 2,445 Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Kath is not that great of a pilot ability in my opinion In order to gain benefit from it, it requires your opponent to cancel your crit which is a negative in my book It's also only two ships, one doesn't have any agility and no want arc dodge, or defensive upgrades The rear Admiral will die very fast Your much better off with engine upgrade and something like predator on the rear Admiral, and Rebel captive if you want to stress. He'll be a target so Rebel captive will at least stress a ship. I've gone games where I never gotten use from kath ability Most times her crit got through, which is what I wanted anyway, so he ability never procked It's not out yet but I played an awesome list last night. Did better than expected Which is a good imperial control list Scimitar bomber Tie shuttle title (not out yet) Tactician Mara jade Scimitar bomber Tie shuttle title Tactician Rebel captive Scimitar bomber Tactician Intel agent Vessery Crackshot Defender title (not released yet but let's you make primary attack after making attack with secondary weapon) Ion Cannon This list handed out a ton of stress My buddies tie swarm, every ship was stressed and some double stressed Vessery ion a tie then destroyed it lol For me, this is the control list I've been looking for, for the Empire Edit It's never a bad idea to have something that can give more crits, but to put points into something with the hopes of having your opponent cancel it out is not a good point investment. You only have one ship at the moment dealing stress and that's a big maybe Rebel captive is the first thing I look at, then Mara jade The emperor again you don't want to use his ability if it's going to be canceled anyway. I'd much prefer use him for defense, or if it looks like the crit would actually get through, not canceled Another list I used awhile back ghat had some control to it was Oicunn Mara jade Rebel captive Dauntless 2x scimitar Prox mines Academy pilot Oicunn stays behind the bombers which were behind the tie Tie flies aggressive, blocks and hopefully takes shots. Bombers got in close, again hard to ignore, and then next turn fly by and drop prox mines, them Oicunn would get in close and stress everything, Rebel captive was a good deterrent from shooting it, and now opponent couldn't kturn behind me. I went 13/14 and 1 with it. It worked quite well actually Instead of prox mines I'd probably go with Tactician on the bombers now Though those prox mines did finish off a lot of ships, Corran, Jake, and Wedge to name a few Edited December 27, 2015 by Krynn007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Default02 11 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Captain Oicunn (42) Intimidation (2) Mara Jade (3) Ysanne Isard (4) Ion Projector (2) Dauntless (2) Kath Scarlet (38) "Mangler" Cannon (4) Rebel Captive (3) Total: 100 I ran this in a tournament and placed second. Worked pretty good. I just drove into the enemy with the dauntless and flew around pinging ships with Kath. Edited December 28, 2015 by Default02 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites