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BH: Sam Gamgee v Frodo Baggins: My heart is broken. How you can allow this?! Facing the heroes with Last Names against each other?, the Heroes of the Shire?. This is too much to bear.  But, my heart is with Sam, always.
BI: Legolas v Beregond: This is very hard. They are so different, each one has their own toys. Legolas put progress, and Beregond saves resources. This time I will go for the Wall.
BJ: Elrond v Gandalf: The Wizard is amazing. I never used Elrond as a Heroe, I always use him as an Ally.
BK: Aragorn (T) v Théoden (S): When you appeared, few trusted in your power, but I used it so much in Saga, and when I changed it for Loragorn, I missed him so much!

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BH: Sam Gamgee. I like both of these heroes a lot; Sam gets the nod simply because he can be used in the Saga.

BI: Beregond. I liked heroes with an attribute of 4 last round, and that hasn't changed.

BJ: Gandalf. Both are absurd when they get going, but Gandalf is more absurd.

BK: Aragorn (T). I haven't played either, but Aragorn seems more fun.

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BH: Sam Gamgee - I enjoy the Sagas

BI: Beregond - Tough call, both great at what they do.

BJ: Gandalf - I rarely use Elrond without Gandalf, but I do use Gandalf without Elrond. That settles it in my mind.

BK: Théoden (S) - I like the Rohan thematic decks.

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BH: Sam Gamgee - This just may be his year. But we'll see.
BI: Legolas - Beregond's stock has fallen for me a bit. Legolas still a champ.
BJ: Gandalf - Many don't like this hero, but I have a ton of fun with him. Go big G!
BK: Aragorn (T) - Just a fun hero to use.

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BH: Sam Gamgee - With Pippin out, Sam is my new champion (and he even avenged Pippin by taking down Galadriel).  Plus, we all know who was the real rock on Frodo and Sam's trip to Mount Doom.

BI: Beregond - Very tough call here.  Going with Beregond because he has less competition and Legolas has already won the championship.

BJ: Elrond - My two least favorite of the remaining 8 matched up against each other.  As someone that rarely plays solo, Gandalf hero is virtually unplayable (or at least you don't want to be "Gandalf Guy").

BK: Aragorn (T) - Another very tough call.  I've had a lot of fun with both heroes.  I'd vote for Theoden here if he had 3 willpower or the art from his tactics version.

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Seriously, guys, the matchups are supposed to get closer and harder to decide as we progress through the tournament, but that's really not happening. I guess I'm at odds with the majority on a lot of heroes...

 

BH: Frodo Baggins
BI: Beregond
BJ: Gandalf - the only difficult decision this round, and whoever wins this one will be my pick for the final victory. I'll give the nod to the wizard this time, there are just so many options with Gandalf, and that'll only get expanded on with the presumption that Narya is coming.
BK: Aragorn (T)

Edited by PocketWraith

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Seriously, guys, the matchups are supposed to get closer and harder to decide as we progress through the tournament, but that's really not happening. I guess I'm at odds with the majority on a lot of heroes...

 

Well, I agree with you, but I only picked one hero that you did...I personally feel there is only one hero left that is worth my vote.  All the rest are just votes because I have to.

Edited by cmabr002

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Seriously, guys, the matchups are supposed to get closer and harder to decide as we progress through the tournament, but that's really not happening. I guess I'm at odds with the majority on a lot of heroes...

 

I can appreciate where you're coming from. There are certainly match-ups (this round and prior) where I cannot understand why people vote a certain way. However, after 20 votes, all are the match-ups are extremely close... except for Sam who has 85% of the votes against Frodo.

 

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The decisions get more difficult.....

BH: Sam Gamgee: Except for this one.  I have no idea how Frodo made it this far, but good on him.  He doesn't hold a candle to Sam, though.
BI: Beregond: I'll take the defensive wall over the master archer.  This decision was difficult, but I prefer Legolas' ally version to the hero, and Gondor to Elves.
BJ: Gandalf: Really tough call.  Elrond is great, but Gandalf is just a bit better. 
BK: Aragorn (T):  And the hardest decision.  I'll take Tactics Aragorn because I want to see at least one version of Aragorn continue to advance.

While there are other heroes I would prefer to see in the final 8, I think all of these heroes are good and at least worthy of being discussed as one of the best in the game.

 

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goddamnit why is gandalf still in this.... looks like hes gonna beat Elrond too.... lame.... if he wins the whole thing......

I'd rather Legolas win again to be honest :P

 

BH: Sam by a massive longshot.

BI: Legolas. I honestly don't think Beregond is that great a defender, yeah he has all he right stats and sentinel and attachments are more or less free on him. I find that the main most detrimental things that you need to worry about when it comes to defending enemy attacks is extra attacks you weren't expecting or horrible shadow effects. Elrohir and Erkenbrand both combat these issues and so do other heroes. Beregond can't do jack against either of these threats unless you load him up with readying attachments and run x3 Behind Strong Walls or run lots of shadow cancellation (all of which take up deck slots and require you to actually draw them). Elrohir and Erkenbrand have these effects built in and are in my opinion far far better defenders. Legolas is definitely one of the best attackers hands down, yes his 3 attack and ranged is more or less the offensive version of Beregond's 4 defence and sentinel and yes his ability is to do with progress and not necessarily offense but attacking enemies is so much more straightforward than defending against them. There are no player shadow cards for example and we can attack with multiple characters against one enemy (can only ever block with one character at a time unless you run that one crappy event...) so you don't need to be quite as specialised or amazing to be a great attacker, you just need brute force and ranged. His progress ability is just insanely good as well and makes him, in a way, a great quester/progress placing hero as well. Beregond blocks and that's it folks!

Also 0 willpower just sucks, I think every hero needs to have at least 1... yes I know you will almost never quest with him but Erkenbrand can quest with snowmane or steed of the mark if you really want or are desperate and Elrohir can quest on certain turns that you play Naith Guide or Lembas for example and has 2 willpower! Also Beregond just cannot handle the cold, dies instantly if you ask him to accompany you through the redhorn gate, literally just straight up dies when you get near the top of the mountain! :D

BJ: Elrond. I strongly recommend EVERYONE who hasn't voted vote for Elrond. Gandalf is better yes but he is better than any hero. Does everything, has more unique attachments than ANYONE and will probably receive his ring of power as well and I'm sure it like all his other attachments will be super powerful yet mega cheap to play.

He does everything, he can receive pretty much any attachment if its on top of your deck, draw a retarded amount of cards, discard shadow cards, gain resources, draw cards, abuse the HELL out of cards like treasure hunter and really just cheeses up the game in general. Want to beat a quest with next to no chance of losing whatsoever? Build a broken Gandalf deck! Want to play easy mode without actually playing easy mode? Use Gandalf!

I know lots of people are gonna hate this rant and will disagree wholeheartedly but I know that many of you also agree and hate the abomination that is the gandalf hero!!

Don't vote for Gandalf he has already won this whole tournament, he is clearly better than any other hero and was more or less designed to be exactly that. The best hero but with the highest threat cost. get. him. OUTTA HERE! :P 

BK: Aragorn (T). I have to say I am a little surprised it is the tactics aragorn that is the only aragorn that remains. I also have to say he gets my vote even if I barely used him when he came out. I will one day.... not sure if I can say the same of Theoden.... just not a Rohan kinda guy...

Edited by PsychoRocka

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I am extraordinarily pleased with the tournament this year. I think it has been very accurate because of a large number of voters with thoughtfulness and experiance. The flashy new toys are not overvalued and the vocal propaganda being thrown around is often falling on deaf ears. I don't know who will win, but it will be well deserved.

BH: Sam Gamgee. It is clear that Frodo cannot win the whole thing. If he has to go down, at least he can go down to his best friend and faithful companion, Sam.

BI: Beregond. People are truly beginning to understand how much of a powerhouse Beregond is. With all due respect to other great defenders like Erkenbrand and Elrohir, Beregond is the best of the best. Soon he will be added to the list of heroes that the hipster players refuse to use because he trivialize the quests and makes the game boring. I can think of no greater honor.

BJ: Gandalf. Other than the embarrassment that is Spirit Glorfindel, no other hero enraged the haters like Gandalf. The thing is, when Seastan builds his many broken decks that demand immediate errata I never seem to see Gandalf in the lineup. Interesting... Anyway, the more I play Gandalf the more I tip my hat to the designers for creating a masterpiece. The guy is supposed to be iconic and powerful and game changing and FUN. They were going to get hate no matter what, and they took on the challenge and made a card that honors the character. The biggest reason to vote for Gandalf is not because he is powerful, but because he is unique, creative, fun, and flavorful. Stick your finger in the eye of the haters and vote for the best hero in the game, Gandalf.

BK: Théoden (S). I am shocked and pleased to see Theoden make it this far. He is the only hero left that grants a global buff to a particular tribe. Dain, Celeborn, Outlands guy--there all gone, but not Santa. Rohan is still my favorite tribe and I am glad to see that I am not alone in my love.

I am throwing my support fully behind Gandalf now. I think he deserves to be the first repeat champion.

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BH: Sam Gamgee - dunno, just use him more. I think his utility is interesting.

BI: Legolas - man, just always a good vote for me. The first winner I think, and the only core hero left (a testament, whatever happens, to how good he is)

BJ: Gandalf - argh! I kinda wanna vote for both, but I'll go for Gandalf because in my recent memory he has been the hero who has made me think about silly decks and such. Always good to have

BK: Theoden - I'm happy to see that his utility is being appreciated by his deep run in the tournament. He's the glue of Rohan, and also makes the other colours of Rohan play more easily. I think he's superbly designed.

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My opinions differed so strongly from the majority's on the last round of votes that I am left with really obvious choices between a very good hero and an a good one or difficult choices between two heroes who, for me, are not top notch.

 

BH: Sam Gamgee v Frodo Baggins. Sam has 3 WP in leadership for 8 threat (the lowest possible in that sphere), and Bill the Pony. Frodo has ally Sam coming though... Funny how Sam risked being his own nemesis here.
BI: Legolas v Beregond. No brainer. I wholeheartedly agree with Psychorocka here.
BJ: Elrond v Gandalf. I find Gandalf more fun to play than Elrond, aside from being stronger of course. I can understand voting the other way though, as Elrond can grant some awesome (if random) moments with Vilya plus Stargazer and makes healing a trivial matter.
BK: Aragorn (T) v Théoden (S). Complete no brainer. From now on, I'm rooting for Tactagorn.

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BH: Sam Gamgee v Frodo Baggins

 

I'm voting Frodo, but I am 100% sure Sam will win.

While Sam is great, he really falls off, if/when your threat gets to high. That shoudn't happen too often if you build the deck right/play right, but it limits the heroes you can use, if you want to make safe use of Sam's ability. On the other hand if you run Frodo you usually have a lot of threat reducing effects (something I don't think is necessary in a Sam/Hobbit Deck) and don't care so much about a potential raise. Just commit Frodo to the quest (like Sam), if you get attacked simply raise your threat. There are attacks Frodo can defend, but Sam would just get slaughtered by., too. All in all for me it's Frodo > Sam in most decks (exceptions I can think of right know: Saga, Mono Leadership).

 

BI: Legolas v Beregond

 

Close call, but I prefer a good defense over spectacular offense. Beregond is really good in siege quests, too (high defense is not so common like attack).


BJ: Elrond v Gandalf

 

Even closer! Elrond and Gandalf are probably the two most powerfull heroes currently in the game. Both with strong stats, effects and personal toys, even Aragorn can't come close to. And both have an ally Version, which are both very good (Gandalf also has the OhauH incarnation :D). It took me a while but in the end I will go with Elrond. Having 3 Armor and being a lore hero makes Elrond a great Defender, I would even say better than Beregond, as it's super easy to ignore any possible shadow Cards and get healing on the table, which is then even boosted! That Elronds helps you pay for all your allies is just the icing on the cake.

Gandalf adds 1 to your handsize, what is cool, but would only mean you drew 2 cards turn one and then play normally, IF Gandalf wouldn't be allowed to pay for your extra Card no matter what sphere AND (now we come to the main reason why Elrond > Gandalf) you couldn't do These I know the Card shenanigans: draw the Card with expert treasure hunter or Play the Card for free with Vilya. And that's it. In my opinion Elrond is the greater buff for Gandalf than vice versa. Of Course Gadlaf is cool and everything, but if I can't have both, I would take Elrond

 

BK: Aragorn (T) v Théoden (S)

 

Easy decision. As always Rohan won't get my vote. And Tactagorn is a really good hero.

 

 

Some predictions: Next round will be Sam v Legolas and Elrond v Theoden, what will lead to a Sam v Elrond final, that the elf-lord will win. It's really cool, that we have two Oldies (Legolas, core set. and Elrond, shadow and flame) against to comparable fresh heroes (even though Sam is much older than Théoden (S) release-wise), what shows, that the community likes their old toys as much as their new ones.

Edited by Calvadur

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