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Areo Hotah: Remove from challenge

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Hello,

 

When I remove a character from the challenge using Areo Hotah with Ambush, is the character still kneeling after I removed him? I would guess "yes" because nothing says it can stand again. Or is there a rule that all characters removed from challenges stand again?

 

Thanks

 

 

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You're right. There is no such rule, so an effect would have to specifically stand the removed character (like Highgarden, for instance). Note that it also works the other way: standing a participating character doesn't remove it from the challenge, either.

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I would assume he can stand again!

 

Example:

1. You declare your fighters

2. Action-phase

3. the opponent declares his fighters

4. action-phase (you bring Hotah from your hand and remove a character from the challange)

5. fight "starts" and the winner is calculated

 

Step 1-4 are only steps to determine participating characters. and only "used" characters are kneeled, so yes I think every removed character can stand up again.

 

Please confirm this, I'm not sure ;)

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I would assume he can stand again!

 

Example:

1. You declare your fighters

2. Action-phase

3. the opponent declares his fighters

4. action-phase (you bring Hotah from your hand and remove a character from the challange)

5. fight "starts" and the winner is calculated

 

Step 1-4 are only steps to determine participating characters. and only "used" characters are kneeled, so yes I think every removed character can stand up again.

 

Please confirm this, I'm not sure ;)

This is incorrect.  At your step 1 and 3, when you declare your fighters you kneel them (except for people like Jaime during a military challenge).  At step 4 when you remove a character, it leave the challenge in the same state it was currently in.  Look at Castle Black.  It is also used in your step 4.  It straightens a defender.  Why straighten a defender if it doesn't knelt until after the fight?

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Be specific. This is all in the RRG and we should not yadda yadda yadda over relevant details.

 

CHALLENGE RESOLUTION
4.2 Challenge is initiated.

  • Announce the challenge type
  • Announce and kneel attacking characters
  • Declare Stealth targets if applicable

ACTION WINDOW
4.2.1 Defending player declares defenders.
ACTION WINDOW

  • Ambush Areo Hotah
  • Reaction: After Areo Hotah enters play during a challenge, choose a participating character, and remove it from the challenge.
  • The removed character does not stand as there is no effect which changes its state after it was knelt in either 4.2 or 4.2.1 See Highgarden and Castle Black--if an effect stands a character, it will say so.

4.2.2 Compare STR to determine challenge winner.
4.2.3 Gain challenge bonuses.
4.2.4 Apply claim result.
4.2.5 Process challenge resolution keywords.
4.2.6 Challenge ends

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