Darkfine 45 Posted November 29, 2015 How does this work? Does his card ability not interact with the rogue keyword? Does his ability mean he circumvents the normal imitative order? Thanks for the thoughts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clontroper5 4,233 Posted November 29, 2015 Hans ability simple let's him activate first as if activated normally This means that he moves and shoot, before any Ship in the Ship the phase after which he is now activated and can no longer work in the squadron phase His ability is unaffected by initiative unless both players have Han then 1st player activates first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyraeus 4,759 Posted November 29, 2015 He can also wait to be activated by a ship or even the squadron phase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FellowPT 41 Posted November 30, 2015 Does his ability count as one of the activated squadrons when resolving the squadron command? If a ship has squadron value of 3 do they get to activate 3 squadrons plus Han Solo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted November 30, 2015 At the Start of the Ship Phase, you may choose to activate Han Solo as if he was activated by a Squadron Command. This means that, before anything... Before any Orders have been issued... he may activate on his own. THEN you reveal your first ship command, and if that is a Squadron Command - Han Solo has either been activated on his own and has already been activated - OR, you may activate him then with a Squadron Command. OR you could activate other squadrons and just activate Han in the Squadron Phase. 2 n815e and Lyraeus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanal 2,557 Posted November 30, 2015 Does his ability count as one of the activated squadrons when resolving the squadron command? If a ship has squadron value of 3 do they get to activate 3 squadrons plus Han Solo? What leads you to think if you activate Han with a Squadron Command he wouldn't count against that command? Should there be something then that needs to have an FAQ entry to clear up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Knight 9,746 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Does his ability count as one of the activated squadrons when resolving the squadron command? If a ship has squadron value of 3 do they get to activate 3 squadrons plus Han Solo? He counts. The real question is: why waste a command on him when he can activate on his own? Seems utterly pointless. Edit: unless you want to Tallon him I suppose. Edited November 30, 2015 by Green Knight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warpman 2,115 Posted November 30, 2015 Well, you might want to be the one hwo shoots activates not first. To fly by after the enemy activated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiabloAzul 2,636 Posted November 30, 2015 Does his ability count as one of the activated squadrons when resolving the squadron command?Yes. If Han Solo gets activated by Tallon, Independence, etc, he gets that card's bonus as usual. If a ship has squadron value of 3 do they get to activate 3 squadrons plus Han Solo?No. He can activate for free at the beginning of the round (thanks to his special ability) or during the squadron phase (thanks to Rogue). If he's activated during the ship phase, he still takes up a slot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frimmel 2,593 Posted November 30, 2015 Does his ability count as one of the activated squadrons when resolving the squadron command? If a ship has squadron value of 3 do they get to activate 3 squadrons plus Han Solo? He counts. The real question is: why waste a command on him when he can activate on his own? Seems utterly pointless. Edit: unless you want to Tallon him I suppose. Or shoot twice with Yavaris. Waiting to see what happens first may also be worth waiting till a squadron command or the squadron phase. Han comes with all kinds of flexibility. 1 Amanal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kami689 156 Posted November 30, 2015 This means that, before anything... Before any Orders have been issued... he may activate on his own. This is not the case. Ship Phase (when solo can activate on his own) comes after the Command Phase. The Command Phase is when dials are set, so orders are already set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted November 30, 2015 This means that, before anything... Before any Orders have been issued... he may activate on his own. This is not the case. Ship Phase (when solo can activate on his own) comes after the Command Phase. The Command Phase is when dials are set, so orders are already set. Issued = Revealed. I apologise for my poor word choice. 1 Amanal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thanosazlin 52 Posted December 1, 2015 So we get it out there , Han Solo goes before "the ship phase" not "your ship phase" . So he gets to activate before your opponent ship phase. So if you were player 2 you would get to go first at the beginning of a round with Han before player 1 could activate a ship Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kami689 156 Posted December 3, 2015 This means that, before anything... Before any Orders have been issued... he may activate on his own. This is not the case. Ship Phase (when solo can activate on his own) comes after the Command Phase. The Command Phase is when dials are set, so orders are already set. Issued = Revealed. I apologise for my poor word choice. Ah, well I misunderstood, so I apologize as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oxymandias 68 Posted December 6, 2015 Han shoots first!! (if he wants to...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artifixprime 197 Posted January 25, 2016 Apologies for resurrecting this thread - wanted to double check on Han's activation He can activate at the start of the Ship Phase - so after the Command Phase when you choose command dials. If I am the first player, and I choose to activate Han at the start of the Ship Phase, can I then activate my first ship in the Ship Phase, or does Han "count as" my first activation as first player? i.e. can I get two activations in a row if I am the first player? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) He activates, for lack of a better term, out of order... The game then proceeds with the first Ship activation, and if you are first player, that would be yours... So indeed. After command dials are set, but before any are Revealed... Boom. Han goes and does that whole shooting first thing... Then, once Han is done... The game proceeds as Normal... So you can potentially activate Han LAST at the end of the Squadron Phase to set him up... Then immediately at the start of the next turn.. Then throw a ship at the enemy...And if Han's done his job blasting through Shields on that facing, that can be a hurting opponents... Edited January 25, 2016 by Drasnighta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artifixprime 197 Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks, I was thinking something similar myself, but it sounded a bit good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,832 Posted January 25, 2016 It is good. But that's why you're paying Twenty Six points for a Squadron who Does NOT have Bomber. 1 DerErlkoenig reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites