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I suspect this topic is about to become absorbed by the Super Star Destroyer thread...

 

Seriously, though, I can't think of too many other large ships for either side (beyond the Mon Cal variants/MC90, which doesn't seem different enough to really merit an inclusion compared to the MC80). If there would be another large ship, my money would be on the First Order Star Destroyer. I'm unsure that they would provide the Rebels with an equivalent, however. Big ships are kind of the Imperial thing (within reason, of course).

 

I expect newer waves will likely fill out the ranks of the medium and small sized ships, actually. It's much easier to justify purchasing them (as they fit into fleets more easily points-wise and aren't as expensive cash-wise) and due to how expensive (again, in both cash and points) larger ships are they are in a lot more direct opposition to one another in terms of justifying their purchase.

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I suspect this topic is about to become absorbed by the Super Star Destroyer thread...

 

Seriously, though, I can't think of too many other large ships for either side (beyond the Mon Cal variants/MC90, which doesn't seem different enough to really merit an inclusion compared to the MC80). If there would be another large ship, my money would be on the First Order Star Destroyer. I'm unsure that they would provide the Rebels with an equivalent, however. Big ships are kind of the Imperial thing (within reason, of course).

 

I expect newer waves will likely fill out the ranks of the medium and small sized ships, actually. It's much easier to justify purchasing them (as they fit into fleets more easily points-wise and aren't as expensive cash-wise) and due to how expensive (again, in both cash and points) larger ships are they are in a lot more direct opposition to one another in terms of justifying their purchase.

 

Spot on, especially since 400 points has been confirmed as the standard going forward and already you have to make serious sacrifices in flexibility to put more than 1 large ship in a list. In the meantime there is a rich vein of medium and small ships in the universe along with a few Squadron types (Z-95, K-Wing, E-Wing, Tie Punisher, Tie Advanced, Tie Defender).

 

That being said you could arguably cram the Interdictor on a large base, if you were so inclined

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Medium base you have the dreadnaught, the C-series ships and a few more like the escort carrier

 

Small base you can have the various frigates of which there is no lack.

 

They could easily populate a full wave before having to crack into the FA IP 

Edited by Hastatior

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I personally hope we don't have a Force Awakens wave until like wave 5, maybe have wave 3 be EU stuff mostly cause I really want my heavy dreadnaught for the Imperials plus would make sense to include a Thrawn commander. And wave 4 could easily be the various ships from Rebels, with the Rebels gaining the Pelta and Commander Sato and the Empire gaining their Immobilizer 418 and Arquitens class cruiser. 

 

And hopefully no SSD talk, I was asking about large size ships, not ships that may or may not be introduced as Huge size ships. :P

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It would make sense to put the Venator-Class on the large base, since it's about the size (tad bit smaller) than the Liberty.  The Empire would also have the Tector- and Interdictor-Class Star Destroyers, but they seem more like gimicky ISD knock offs than a new design.  There is the Secutor-Class SD, which would make for a nice substitute of the Super Star Destroyer at 2200m long, and could fit a large base.  The Empire, however, benefited from a centralized design and ship procurement bureacracy, so it makes sense that they have fewer big designs, but a lot of them, so I don't see the need for a ton of big base ships for the Empire when they have the ISD. 

 

The large base would also work for the Nebula/Endurance-Class Star Destroyer/Fleet Carrier, but they're decidedly New Republic.  

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Wave 5! calm down, lets get wave 2 and then have some time to play that one first  :)

 

I would love to see some Interdictors, maybe a medium base though and some dreadnoughts, (small/medium not sure which). Keep the big ships to a minimum and reserved for that special awe factor in the lists.

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I suspect this topic is about to become absorbed by the Super Star Destroyer thread...

 

Seriously, though, I can't think of too many other large ships for either side (beyond the Mon Cal variants/MC90, which doesn't seem different enough to really merit an inclusion compared to the MC80). If there would be another large ship, my money would be on the First Order Star Destroyer. I'm unsure that they would provide the Rebels with an equivalent, however. Big ships are kind of the Imperial thing (within reason, of course).

 

I expect newer waves will likely fill out the ranks of the medium and small sized ships, actually. It's much easier to justify purchasing them (as they fit into fleets more easily points-wise and aren't as expensive cash-wise) and due to how expensive (again, in both cash and points) larger ships are they are in a lot more direct opposition to one another in terms of justifying their purchase.

 

Works for me. I'd love another non-Vic medium ship in my imperial navy. Just to spice things up. :D

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Maybe ships from the Rebels cartoon.

 

Thus far they haven't really portrayed anything new that would be considered large. For the Empire - other than the ISD -  they've shown the Gonzanti carrier, which is smaller than the Raider and the Arquitens-class light cruiser, which should also properly be a small-size ship. For the Rebellion, there also hasn't been much - certainly not large-size.

 

I agree with Green Knight and Hastatior above that the Liberty cruiser (an MC80 variant) should be introduced as a separate expansion, if only for the sake of model diversity.

 

Regarding the Tector-class, I'm really hesitant to acknowledge what I imagine to be a filming mistake as a separate class of ship. But, if they're going to do it (and several sources have already done so), it certainly would be pretty easy - just have a bottom hull mold without the hangar bays and the reactor bulb, and voila, there's your model. Charge $50 and add in some new cards and there you go. It doesn't feel very satisfying though.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Venator introduced as an Imperial large ship, but I don't get the sense that FFG wants anything to do with ships that are so very clearly from the prequel-era, even if those ships did continue on into the civil war era.

 

For my sake, I'm happy to let them hold off on large ships, while they get more small ships going - maybe another medium for the Rebels.

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I think we will 100% see FO ISD and the Winged mc80. That said there are a lot more large ships for the rebels in EU and imperials get a lot more medium and small ships. They could also go back and do the clone wars era ships or even old republic. They don't have to stick with Galactic civil war.

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I think we will 100% see FO ISD and the Winged mc80. That said there are a lot more large ships for the rebels in EU and imperials get a lot more medium and small ships. They could also go back and do the clone wars era ships or even old republic. They don't have to stick with Galactic civil war.

 

The ISD/fo is certainly plausible.

 

I wonder if it will feel right to FFG to have the Rebels get a lot of large ships, with the Empire getting more medium and small ships. It seems like the essence of the Galactic Civil War would require the reverse, just like it was when we only had the Core Set.

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The liberty cruiser is more likely than ever I think, you can see it often in the battles of the new battlefront game. Only large rebel ships we should have/need in the following waves. Different arc layout than the home one mc80 and we have plenty of diversity!

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I'm happy to see this has remained mostly on topic too :P

 

We of course have the Liberty, which I think is pretty likely. The box-blurb for the Home One mentions that it's an Mc80, but package the liberty, and suddenly it becomes the Mc80A. Now, I've been growing quite fond of the wingless Mc80A, but I don't think it looks different enough compared to the Home One. Of course, something as simple as a different paint job to a blue colour could change that. As for other Rebel ships, we have the Dauntless-class. It's 1,200m so size wise, it's fine. I still think it looks like a mangled hybrid of Home One and an Assault Frigate Mk.I, but lacks the personality of either. The last one is the one I really like, the ARC Star Cruiser. At 1,000m it might be on the low end of 'large', but it's not seen much, and it just happens to have a profile that is pretty different (and one that I really really like).

 

The Empire has the Tector though that isn't really an easily distinguished ship from the table top perspective. Like lord Hasselstein said, I wonder if they'd change it some to make it more... different. I mean, I always figured it was either a filming mistake, or just the very front of a different Destroyer. Now, I still don't like the Venator or many of the Republic prequel ships (I mean from a design perspective, not from a thematic or 'principle' standpoint. I like the Providence for the record). As it stands, the Imperials are still one ship behind, if that turns out to be the Star Destroyer/FO then that's fine.

 

I still think they need more medium sized ships on both sides. If the ISD has to be the sole big-bad Imperial ship for another 1-2 waves, that sounds okay.

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I'm personally hoping to see another Large ship set by Wave III or Wave IV.  Really hoping for their arrival in Wave III, but dont honestly expect it.  My reason for this is purely selfish really.  When I think of the Rebel Fleet, I think of one ship that embodies it for me.  That ship is the MC80 Liberty Starcruiser.  I was honestly surprised they chose to do the Home One first, as its the largest Rebel Capital shown in the movie, but to me is hardly as Iconic and memorable as the Liberty (Winged MC80).  I dont know why that particular ship design drew my attention and admiration, but I would much rather see it then Home One.

 

So yes, I'm anxiously waiting for the moment they release the next batch of large ships, and my hope beyond hope is, that the Liberty is the next to be included.  It does bring up an issue as I dont know what other ship the Imperials could get to fill in a slot.  They would have to either create a new one, or pull from Legends.

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When I think of the Rebel Fleet, I think of one ship that embodies it for me.  That ship is the MC80 Liberty Starcruiser.

 

Because it gets a few external glimpses on-screen and then gets blown up by the Death Star, rather than the in-and-out scenes that Ackbar's flagship gets? :P

 

At least it has a more apropos name.

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I would be happy with a Liberty MC80 and a Finalizer star destroyer giving 2 large ships for each side.

 

They really need more mediums.  MC40, Dreadnaught, Escort Carrier, Interdictor....  all of these are needed.

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