Drea Renthal is slightly better than you think.

[Nyxen 1,605]

I was list building on my building app of choice when I noticed something. Drea's ability isn't just a stressful fire control system. It reads 'When you spend a target lock, you may acquire a target lock' Meaning you can continue your lock shenanigans after your target's death with careful planning.

[Antipodean Ork 79]

It does look like that. Kitchen table testing suggests guessing the right time to switch it is trickier than it seems.

[Esser915 17]

You can also spend a TL to fire a Torpedo, then stress yourself to regain the TL and use the lock to modify the torpedo attack.  Or if you have a TLT, it allows you gain a TL for both attacks (at the cost of a stress).

 

That being said, still not a huge fan.

[Warpman 2,115]

I was list building on my building app of choice when I noticed something. Drea's ability isn't just a stressful fire control system. It reads 'When you spend a target lock, you may acquire a target lock' Meaning you can continue your lock shenanigans after your target's death with careful planning.

Yep. And she works perfectly with merc droid that requires enemy to re-roll green dice.

IF she got your arse locked, you're toasted.

 

She shoots a torpedo, reaquires the TL, uses the TL to re-roll, reaquires TL, uses it to force you to re-roll your green dice, reaquires it

 

But it can cause awful amounts of stress, like 3\torpedo or 4\TLT shooting turn and IF target dies not fromher attack...no more TL this game)

[GreatMazinkaiser 1,334]

Yeah, she's Target Lock Tycho, and one of the best torpedo carriers in the game (may beat out Redline if "Smiley" is involved).

 

Easily one of my favorite Scum pilots, and who doesn't like flying one of Lando's old flames?

[Blail Blerg 7,335]

She still cant hit soontir by herself. 

[Warpman 2,115]

The lady deserves a Huge ship actually.

 

She CAN hit sootir if smiley droid has her attention.

 

With TLT or any 4+ dice torpedo.

[Blail Blerg 7,335]

even with R4B11, you can't.. try it.  

[Dagonet 7,246]

 

But it can cause awful amounts of stress, like 3\torpedo or 4\TLT shooting turn and IF target dies not fromher attack...no more TL this game)

 

 

Why not, you'll still have a TL on your target.

As soon as Drea has a lock on her prey, you just need to move all your ships out of the way until it's destroyed. .

 

With TLT and R4-B11 you'll go:

Take TL

Shoot TLT

Spend target lock to reroll attack dice

Gain stress, take TL

Spend target lock to force reroll defense dice

Gain stress, take TL

Shoot TLT second time

Spend target lock to reroll attack dice

Gain stress, take TL

Spend target lock to force reroll defense dice

Gain stress, take TL

 

What's not to like?

 

Add Kavil with a Blaster Turret and an R4, and 3 Black Sun Soldiers and you've got a mean little list fo' cheap.

[Warpman 2,115]

even with R4B11, you can't.. try it.  

Okay, TLT time!

 

TL

TLT

4\8 *3 results

4\8 *3 *4\8 extra results after re-roll

 

*mathwing

Well, 2,25 hits per TLT attack

 

his 4 dice 

with Focus token

give 2,5 results

after the smiley reroll

1,5625 dodges

So he has to use up two tokens, if there's no autothruster involved.

In case autothruster is there (also need to see the order in which it's used!)

He has to spend just focus.

 

yep, hard nut.

Edited November 17, 2015 by Warpman

[Ravncat 1,988]

Psst. Run a z95 with xxs23 thread tracers... When drea is over stressed, use the z95 to generate a new target lock for her....

[Endman 249]

You shouldn't use Drea to kill Soontir, you should use her to strip his tokens as the first part to an effective one-two punch.

Against low agility ships she's just absolutely brutal. And with torpedoes she's like a slightly less effective but cheaper Redline.

I've always liked Drea, but I struggle to find a place for her in a Scum list. If she was a rebel pilot she'd be an auto-include in my lists.

[Warpman 2,115]

Drea and Kavil are cool pilots in good TLTplatforms ships

When they concentrate their fire, even autothrusting arcdodging foes better watch their buttocks.

 

And that's good, because meta is full of them!

 

And yeah, she CAN just take an Ion torpedo and chew_through_all_the_dodges

in Epic...she's Epic.

[Mu0n729 3,113]

Just want to make sure of something for R4-B11 which is rarely discussed.

 

It says to reroll 'any' or 'all' defense dice. That opens up any plural options, right? Say the defender rolls Evade, Evade, Blank

 

You can choose to make the defender rerol both evades?

[ficklegreendice 34,359]

you're not going to use Mr. Smiley on self-stressing ship with only two greens

 

for the sake of your sanity, Unhinged

[heychadwick 11,354]

Yes, you can use the mech to re-roll just the successes.  It makes people like Soontir even harder to be successful.  Wait...he does spend his Focus first, right?  So, you know you want to re-roll eyeballs, too. 

 

If you face a lot of Y wings, use Plasma Torpedoes, she can be great to take out a Y-wing's shields.  With re-roll and one free Focus hitting, you can get 3-4 hits easily enough.  Hit a Y-wing and you do the extra shield damage. 

[Warpman 2,115]

you're not going to use Mr. Smiley on self-stressing ship with only two greens

 

for the sake of your sanity, Unhinged

Lol, but immedately after you declare smiley, you can re-assign that TL onto this ship if it's fat, or onto another it if's already going down.

 

Drea managed to take (let that sink in!) 13 Stress tokens in one game.

But she ATE ALIVE things with the TLT.

 

Just want to make sure of something for R4-B11 which is rarely discussed.

 

It says to reroll 'any' or 'all' defense dice. That opens up any plural options, right? Say the defender rolls Evade, Evade, Blank

 

You can choose to make the defender rerol both evades?

yep, you can select 1 2 or even 3 dice. Evades, focuses, even blanks 9who knows what you want?)

Smiley is good, but useless for most ships besides Drea

[Shirako 353]

Not entirely sold on her. For 32 points you get Proton Torps, EM, Mun. Failsafe, and R4-B11. So no turret but 2 Proton Torps with a pretty good chance of 4 hits (or 3 hits 1 crit) and R4-B11 to push damage through. VS low agi targets like Falcons/decis/Ys you can smack them pretty hard, but against just about anything else she probably won't get her points back

[MegaSilver 2,762]

Just want to make sure of something for R4-B11 which is rarely discussed.

 

It says to reroll 'any' or 'all' defense dice. That opens up any plural options, right? Say the defender rolls Evade, Evade, Blank

 

You can choose to make the defender reroll both evades?

 

Yes. The same thing with R7 Astromech.

[Mu0n729 3,113]

 

you're not going to use Mr. Smiley on self-stressing ship with only two greens

 

for the sake of your sanity, Unhinged

Lol, but immedately after you declare smiley, you can re-assign that TL onto this ship if it's fat, or onto another it if's already going down.

 

Drea managed to take (let that sink in!) 13 Stress tokens in one game.

But she ATE ALIVE things with the TLT.

 

Just want to make sure of something for R4-B11 which is rarely discussed.

 

It says to reroll 'any' or 'all' defense dice. That opens up any plural options, right? Say the defender rolls Evade, Evade, Blank

 

You can choose to make the defender rerol both evades?

yep, you can select 1 2 or even 3 dice. Evades, focuses, even blanks 9who knows what you want?)

Smiley is good, but useless for most ships besides Drea

 

 

We'll see if your last sentence holds in the wake of the Punishing One, who can take Salvaged astromechs.

[TaeSWXW 755]

I think giving her TLT is only helpful if you have a lot of problems popping squints - otherwise I don't think she (or Kavil's) is that much better than a bog standard scum Y-Wing.

 

Where Drea really excels is as an ICT carrier. Ion cannons are really only scary if they hit their target and Drea + R4B11 hits their targets pretty **** often.

[Chief Hugh 372]

Not convinced. FFG makes too many pilots that makes me wonder why they thought it was a good idea. Case in point the Imperial Aces pack. Its too hard to run interceptors without an elite pilot slot. Those guys would see more table time if they could PTL. If Boba Fett's ability was on some no name bounty hunter in a firespray no one would play him for 39 points. But because it's Boba Fett people force him into a list.

[Dagonet 7,246]

Not convinced. FFG makes too many pilots that makes me wonder why they thought it was a good idea.

Because FFG knows not everything should be designed for the competitive scene.

[AssortedNeedles 107]

Drea with tlt and R4-B11 can reliable put 2 damage on any target. Great vs those 3 agility ships. 

Also Drea with just unhinged and tlt gives you +3 PS and a modifier on your second tlt shot compared to a normal thug with unhinged for +4 points, which is I think is reasonable. 

 

Another option would plasma torpedoes and extra munitions (and R4-B11), this is especially good versus Brobots, as you can  probably take out a large portion of their shields.  

[heychadwick 11,354]

Right.  Plasma can reduce the cost by 1 and you can always go with Unhinged (or no Astromech) to reduce points.  R4-B11 will help get through on the high agility targets, but not always needed. 

 

I do want to see someone run Horton with EM and proton Torps for the fun of it.  I think you could do enough damage with just him to justify not going with TLT's.

Edited November 17, 2015 by heychadwick