Reath28 37 Posted October 31, 2015 ISD II -Darth Vader -Gunnery Team -XI7 ISD II -Gunnery Team -XI7 VSD II -Gunnery Team -XI7 Total 400pts Objectives: -Advanced Gunnery -Contested Outpost -Dangerous Territory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oddeye 560 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) For some reason i like isd and vsd 1s better. 2s seem too expensive (there is a thread on it right now actually). The only nice option the isd 2 offers are defensive retro fits, if you are not taking one i'd downgrade to an isd1. Other than that it looks good. Edited October 31, 2015 by oddeye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spellbound 27 Posted October 31, 2015 I think the VSD-2 is worth every point over a VSD-1. VSD-1's are just.... they're disappointing. ISD-1 looks promising, though, since it has the speed to get close. Agreed that the only reason really to invest in an ISD-2, though, would be to get the defensive upgrades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oddeye 560 Posted October 31, 2015 Vsd 1s are amazing in my experience. Great carriers, can take a beating and if you out manuever your opponent they are devastating. Plus 73 points isnt half bad even if you lose one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spellbound 27 Posted October 31, 2015 But they're never 73 points, they have upgrades and titles to make them into decent carriers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,362 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) But they're never 73 points, they have upgrades and titles to make them into decent carriers. they really don't need any upgrades nor titles to be carriers people seems to enjoy gong overboard on squadron support when it is really not needed in the slightest. At most, a carrier "needs" (not really) either hangars or comms and only added Flight Controllers if dedicating themselves to anti-squadron efforts. Really, all you need to support squadrons are squadrons to support. furthermore, the new Tractor beams are probably going to give the VSD-1 more viability as a tough brawler sorta ship, since everyone will be as slow as it is once you get multiple procs going as for the ISD-2, apart from the awesome defensive slot, the 8 dice at medium range stack amazing well with gunnery team and can really blow apart fleets made up of smaller ships. It is, imo, a far more significant upgrade than taking the VSD-1 to 2 simply because of how it basically one-shots smaller ships with that many dice (esp with offensive tech ala Avenger or X-17s, or squadron support) and has the nav chart to abuse Edited October 31, 2015 by ficklegreendice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axelius 39 Posted October 31, 2015 A Victory I with Assault proton Torpedoes and Tractor Beams go for one point cheaper than a VSD II. It has some board control as it can slow down those pesky rebels ships and force them to stay in range (especially when deployed en masse) and has a really fearsome close range punch. And all it loses is an inch and a half of range (which seldom is a problem if you dedicate your victory to go for the throat) and get fewer accuracies. Unless you're trying to do something with Ion cannons (of which there are few really good ones IMO) you're better off with a VSD I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
