Hobojebus 11,341 Posted October 31, 2015 Aaaaaaaaand we're back on topic! Thanks EastCoast! The prequals should get the treatment they deserve (not the one they need. Ok I'll stop with the batman stuff! ) And remove that line about mediclorians... And tone down Jar Jar a lot. I think you can actually improve the prequals by edditing out a lot of stuff. (Altough this might leave you with a very short Attack of the Clones) Have you not seen the fan edit that reduces the prequels to one movie 2 and a half hours long, it's surprisingly watchable he even made the romance passable using the deleted scene with the family having dinner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shard 41 Posted October 31, 2015 Christian Bale is the best Batman yet. Michael Keaton was second best. Val Kilmer and George Clooney were just..... NO! Adam West is rather confused. Never mind who is best batman! Who is best Joker, now that's important! For me it's Jack Nicolson, Cesar Romero, Mark Hamil, Heath Ledger. In that order. Oh yeah! You read that right I've only known Jack Nicolson and Heath Ledger as the Joker, and I agree with the order. Heath Ledger was scary, an awesome actor, but good olde Jack was still the best of the two. "You ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light?" 1 Robin Graves reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted October 31, 2015 The Man Who Laughs, the best Joker movie of all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sithborg 11,644 Posted October 31, 2015 Still, Leto looks to give me nightmares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkstrike 5,410 Posted October 31, 2015 I'd like to see the prequels remade ...with some significant script changes. See the "What if Star Wars Episode 2 were good?" video on YouTube for a great idea of how to remake the prequels and have them be appropriately powerful. And of course ditch Jar Jar, midichlorians, and other BS in the process. 1 Crabbok reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conandoodle 1,817 Posted November 1, 2015 To topic,We have to remember that Phanton Menace was the first time where Mr. Lucas was both the business owner and customer. He was pushing CG technology. Why? Because it is his passion? Because it would bring in business if done well? Like all technology, it develops in small steps. We need George's 'vision' to push it to the boundaries so we can learn, and have the finances and interest there to continue investing in it. Sadly, we needed bad CG in movies as it was part of the maturation of the technology. It just sucks that it was our Star Wars that progressed CG from its pre-pubescent years into its moody experimental era.Double sadly, things like acting, directing and scripting took a back seat to this tech too. 3 xXWarsmithXx, John Tenzer and Hawkstrike reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXWarsmithXx 310 Posted November 1, 2015 To topic, We have to remember that Phanton Menace was the first time where Mr. Lucas was both the business owner and customer. He was pushing CG technology. Why? Because it is his passion? Because it would bring in business if done well? Like all technology, it develops in small steps. We need George's 'vision' to push it to the boundaries so we can learn, and have the finances and interest there to continue investing in it. Sadly, we needed bad CG in movies as it was part of the maturation of the technology. It just sucks that it was our Star Wars that progressed CG from its pre-pubescent years into its moody experimental era. Double sadly, things like acting, directing and scripting took a back seat to this tech too. I can agree to that. Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 24,135 Posted November 2, 2015 And tone down Jar Jar a lot. If by "tone Jar Jar down a lot" you mean "have him blugdeoned to death by angy Sand People" then I'm all for it. 3 xXWarsmithXx, Robin Graves and Hobojebus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobojebus 11,341 Posted November 2, 2015 And tone down Jar Jar a lot. If by "tone Jar Jar down a lot" you mean "have him blugdeoned to death by angy Sand People" then I'm all for it. Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warpman 2,115 Posted November 2, 2015 I think if Disney were to re-do this entire prequel trilogy, it could be great. they'd have to retcon a ton of stuff. But man - I'd love to see a fresh take that makes sense. They should remake the "original" trilogy. Because it lacks any acting skill aside from Han. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted November 2, 2015 I think if Disney were to re-do this entire prequel trilogy, it could be great. they'd have to retcon a ton of stuff. But man - I'd love to see a fresh take that makes sense. They should remake the "original" trilogy. Because it lacks any acting skill aside from Han. You mean Harrison Ford? He did once threathen to tie down George Lucas to a chair and make him read his dialogue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 24,135 Posted November 2, 2015 And tone down Jar Jar a lot. If by "tone Jar Jar down a lot" you mean "have him blugdeoned to death by angy Sand People" then I'm all for it. Agreed. You know it makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shard 41 Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Edit: if you want to see more Jar Jar deaths, just go to YouTube and search Jar Jar Binks Dies Edited November 2, 2015 by The Shard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted November 2, 2015 There's even an offical action figure of him frozen in carbonite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julia 2,809 Posted November 2, 2015 Fox rebooted fantastic four Yes. And omg what have they done. Had SW a similar reboot, then we'd all suddenly become nostalgic of Lucas' disasters... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobojebus 11,341 Posted November 3, 2015 Fox rebooted fantastic four Yes. And omg what have they done. Had SW a similar reboot, then we'd all suddenly become nostalgic of Lucas' disasters... I'd have to watch fant4stic to make a sound call and that's not on the cards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Fox rebooted fantastic four Yes. And omg what have they done. Had SW a similar reboot, then we'd all suddenly become nostalgic of Lucas' disasters... I'd have to watch fant4stic to make a sound call and that's not on the cards. Seeing the trailer was enough for me. Then they told me that was all the good/action scenes from the entire movie thrown togehter. the rest of the movie is worse. It makes Rise of the silver surfer look like the Winter soldier... Edited November 3, 2015 by Robin Graves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageBoss 233 Posted November 3, 2015 Christian Bale is the best Batman yet. Michael Keaton was second best. Val Kilmer and George Clooney were just..... NO! Adam West is rather confused. Kevin Conroy is even more confused. 1 John Tenzer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warpman 2,115 Posted November 3, 2015 I think if Disney were to re-do this entire prequel trilogy, it could be great. they'd have to retcon a ton of stuff. But man - I'd love to see a fresh take that makes sense. They should remake the "original" trilogy. Because it lacks any acting skill aside from Han. You mean Harrison Ford? He did once threathen to tie down George Lucas to a chair and make him read his dialogue. Yep, a space Indiana Jones. The rest of the actors of the IV V VI episoded act lame. I might admire him as "the man who voiced the Joker" but Luke was an acting failure with roughly the same face expression and depth through the films. ****... even CGI Grivous had more expression in his eyes xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted November 3, 2015 Wow, that's some OT hate there. Granted, Carrie Fisher was on a lot of drugs during filming, but Mark Hammil, though not the best actor, was very expressive, I thought. And there's only so much you can do with Star Wars dialogue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight Leader 424 Posted November 3, 2015 But there were small problems. Too many of them. Obi Wan in the OT makes it seem like he met this guy named Anakin, who was a great pilot, and it just kind of sets up a scene where Obi Wan should have met Anakin on his own, and taken it upon himself to train him - but Episode 1 changed all of that, and let to a huge inconsistency. The two events dont really conflict. We obiwan first met anakin in ep 1 it was after his amazing race that won them 5he parts they needed to fix their ship. The OT also makes you feel like Yoda trained Obi-Wan in a similar manner that Luke gets trained, with a lot of 1 on 1 training - and the prequels somewhat contradict this and turn Yoda into a Kindergarten teacher. Thats not really a contradiction, we where never shown what went into normal jedi training in the ot. And Padme being "fine" with Anakin slaughtering an entire village, including women and children. The village full of raiders that were going around maming and killing random people. The same raiders that were seen by padme in the previous movie taking shoots at podracers and even took out at least one. Most importantly of all these are the same people that abducted anakins mom and for months tortured her till she died. Padme may have felt some sympathy for the tuskin raiders after they were killed BUT left alone they would still be killing people, talk8ng some as slaves, and torturing them till they die. Its not like she didn5 know about how deviant raiders were, she was having a talk with anakins stepdad when he told her about the rescue groups sent out 5o get anakins mom being wiped out by the raiders. It sucks they had to die but lets face it, they were a threat to anyone on that planet except maybe the hutts. And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". The very first time we see Anakin and Obi Wan together as "Master and Student" in episode 2, they are arguing. In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2. They show their friend ship in ep 3 as well as the cw. And there were big ones. Medicloriens was a big one. Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another. How are the Medicloriens a big contradiction? They made clear why Anakin wanted to serve the Emperor. The jedi had the force abilities to keep padme alive... they only teach it to masters and healers, hence why anakin was angry about not being a master, sidious was the onlyone offering to teach him an ability more powerful than the one he could have learned from the jedi, to keep his wife and children alive. He was suffering nightmares nonstop like the ones he had before his mom died. Even a force attuned child is a threat and at the least can be used as a beacon of hope by any future rebel forces. That being said i dont think Vader killed all the children, just the uncorruptble ones. He probably took the rest to be trained to be agents of the new order and or shadow guard. 1 xXWarsmithXx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shard 41 Posted November 3, 2015 but Mark Hammil, though not the best actor, was very expressive, I thought. And there's only so much you can do with Star Wars dialogue. https://youtu.be/_lOT2p_FCvA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted November 3, 2015 Wow, that's some OT hate there. Granted, Carrie Fisher was on a lot of drugs during filming, but Mark Hammil, though not the best actor, was very expressive, I thought. And there's only so much you can do with Star Wars dialogue. Yep plus Alec Guiness was good. (That is still Obi Wan to me, not that guy from trainspotting) And on the villain side: peter Cushing (hell yeah!) as Tarkin. And what Vader concerns: If you got a cool mask, the stature of David Prowse and the voice of James Earl Jones, you don't to act. 1 Cununculus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Tenzer 301 Posted November 3, 2015 The imperial officers weren't to shabby either. Veers, Needa, Piett, Motti, all were pretty convincing and professional support actors. 1 Cununculus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cununculus 661 Posted November 6, 2015 Wow, that's some OT hate there. Granted, Carrie Fisher was on a lot of drugs during filming, but Mark Hammil, though not the best actor, was very expressive, I thought. And there's only so much you can do with Star Wars dialogue. Yep plus Alec Guiness was good. (That is still Obi Wan to me, not that guy from trainspotting) And on the villain side: peter Cushing (hell yeah!) as Tarkin. And what Vader concerns: If you got a cool mask, the stature of David Prowse and the voice of James Earl Jones, you don't to act. You mean Prince Faisal? Tarkin is a very nastily portrayed villain. (Though I would love to see Thrawn, but who wouldn´t?) Curious to see of the new villain gets help from his mask or is just a groupie trying to be Vader The imperial officers weren't to shabby either. Veers, Needa, Piett, Motti, all were pretty convincing and professional support actors. Agreed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites