All time low for gw

[Gadge 4,294]

It depends, from a 'buying and selling GW' angle (something i do a lot of) it seems that recent plastics dont appreciate very well at all.  People want new editions so sell those as soon as you can.

 

If you've got 80s metals they are worth loads at the moment,

 

90s metals (and some plastics) are appreciting in value fast, i'd personally hold onto them a little bit longer

 

90 or 2000s specialist games stuff you can pretty much make a mint on.

 

 

 

And Darius im with you on the masses of moulded symbols.  it not only made stuff load smore time consiuming to paint but i hated the way its forces your hand in design.   I much prefer lots of open surfaces i can paint my own images/crests/logos on.

[DariusAPB 6,925]

I'd love to be able to go back in time and pick up the entire necromunda range. Mordheim too.

All of it. From the early 2000s/late 90s... c'est la vie.

 

 

Speaking of Mordheim. Since I made my friend whine and cry really really badly by playing Shadow Warriors(well, and i'll add most of his dudes died from inclement weather(hail) and indeed one literally has hatred (Hail).

 

What was the official with them dudes? I mean they had ace fluff, and weren't THAT OP - where they officially nixed from tourny completely or just relegated to official but not experimental?

Edited October 27, 2015 by DariusAPB

[Gadge 4,294]

Shadow warriors were printed in 'empire in flames' supplement book for mordheim.

 

So as far as im aware they are a totally legit warband.

 

I use old 'melniboneans' as my shadow warriors.

 

 

Oddly you know i'm credited as a writer on one copy of 'town cryer' mordheim magazine and i have no recollection of writing *anything* for that , unless they printed something i did for White Dwarf ( i didnt do a massive lot on WD either) but i don't recall doing anything for mordheim other than mordheim comic strips for inferno and warhammer monthly which i subedited back in the day.

 

edit:  here you go.  I was publishing under 'Gareth Harvey' at the time (everyone calls me Gadge but legally its Gareth) but i don't remember doing anything on this.  If anyone actually has it could they tell me what im listed as having written as i try and keep a copy of most things i do.

 

http://www.biblio.com/book/town-cryer-issue-8-mordheim-jones/d/694076620

Edited October 27, 2015 by Gadge

[DariusAPB 6,925]

I miss mordheim so much. Ever tell you guys the story about when we had an order v destruction game, and all the fighters piled into one big 6by6 melee, and i fired a blunderbuss into it?

 

good times.

good... times.

 

Man, and the local GW board had a huge boat. used to love deploying as that as a pirate.

 

At the time I had a slowly evolving Reiklander warband. Still have the (really really poorly painted) models.

Understand that this was just when I discovered what inkwashing was.

 

Had cult of possessed t oo, with 90s era chainmail clad chaos maurauders. Still have those models.. boltgun metal and black ink.... a few zombies with bits from the mordheim box set to make into archers, spearmen... used one of the front plates of a chaos predator to use as a shield for one. You know... the little plates you used to have to attach to the main cockpitty bit. This was before cult of the possessed had their own models.

 

and this is why i'll be upset when GW goes under.

 

 

... anyway. I love Mordheim. It's my favourite of the specialist games, I found necromunda the gangs got too powerful too quickly. In Mord... It was all fun. sisters warbands, beastmen, orcs... I loved that you could do Brettonia or (as experimental or town cryer rules also) Imperial knighthoods.

 

I did Empire in flames and Albion, indeed it was albion where my shadow warriors made my friend cry...

Edited October 27, 2015 by DariusAPB

[Gadge 4,294]

I suspect GW will go under within 5 years.

 

As I've said before I'll truly be sad about this, I've given my reasons elsewhere - so I won't again but.. ****.

 

BUT

 

Possibility 2.

 

It'd go to a critical low, and be bought by someone who gives a ****, and the next decade will be a slow rebuild of the IP.

 

Possibility 2.5 It'll be FFG. I will convert to a religion and preach the second coming. I mean sure, I doubt FFG would keep the stores open... But at least they'd responsibly handle the IP/gaming.

 

 

Just re-reading this, its worth bearing in mind its unlikely to be FFG as they were bought out by Asmodee.

 

I know a lot of places say this is a 'merger' but i was told its more like a buyout with senior FFG types being given about three years of control over products before its fully handed over.

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Man I miss mordheim I loved my skaven gang, and when things went bad it didn't matter there are always more rat men.

And you know what I started a clan eshin army because I enjoyed them so much, as a gateway game it was brilliant.

And you could tell people in the company loved it to from the magazine's.

That's why I'm thinking about trying frostgrave.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

Matt gets very bad press.  I worked with Matt in the last couple of years before i left GW.   I think these days Matt pretty much gets told how things have to pan out , its not like hes' single handedly trying to nerf every race.

 

 

...yes he didn't nerf ultrasmurfs and greyOPknights Ok ok I figured the guy(s been demonised as the one who's ruining the 40k fluff. But I guess he's not as bad as peeps on the 'net make him out to be. (Micheal Bay andPeter Molyeux on the other hand... )

[Robin Graves 6,054]

 

I suspect GW will go under within 5 years.

 

As I've said before I'll truly be sad about this, I've given my reasons elsewhere - so I won't again but.. ****.

 

BUT

 

Possibility 2.

 

It'd go to a critical low, and be bought by someone who gives a ****, and the next decade will be a slow rebuild of the IP.

 

Possibility 2.5 It'll be FFG. I will convert to a religion and preach the second coming. I mean sure, I doubt FFG would keep the stores open... But at least they'd responsibly handle the IP/gaming.

 

 

Just re-reading this, its worth bearing in mind its unlikely to be FFG as they were bought out by Asmodee.

 

I know a lot of places say this is a 'merger' but i was told its more like a buyout with senior FFG types being given about three years of control over products before its fully handed over.

 

 

So how similar is it to Hasbro buying WOTC?

[Robin Graves 6,054]

 

And Darius im with you on the masses of moulded symbols.  it not only made stuff load smore time consiuming to paint but i hated the way its forces your hand in design.   I much prefer lots of open surfaces i can paint my own images/crests/logos on.

 

It's what I hate about teh current chaos space marines. To much detail and gribly stuff. I like my Wolrd Eaters brutal and unadorned.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

I miss mordheim so much. Ever tell you guys the story about when we had an order v destruction game, and all the fighters piled into one big 6by6 melee, and i fired a blunderbuss into it?

 

good times.

good... times.

 

 

I never played mordheim (read trough a rulebook pdf a while ago) and it seems great fun. Altough I think i'd be the guy who would bottle out as soon as my warriors got in trouble. Screw this you guys can have the victory, me an' the lads are gonna look for weirdstone over here now

[Tekwych 270]

 

So how similar is it to Hasbro buying WOTC?

 

WoTC is truly run by by Hasbro. Few, if any, decisions are made that don't come from Hasbro. Ir is Hasbro who sets the budget for WoTC and decides what portion goes to Magic, To D&D, even if Avalon Hill will get any love.

 

FFG will become, for all intents and purposes, the North American division of Asmodee. So far most of the 'divisions' of Asmodee, including FFG and Days of Wonder, have retained a large amount of design autonomy while Asmodee itself is consolidating production, distribution, marketing and IP across all divisions. If an IP such as Eclipse or Abyss makes more sense as an FFG license then Asmodee will move it. If they feel Colossal Arena or Hey, That's My Fish! belong at Days of Wonder then it will move. At the same time they will have more eyes watching production and distribution at an international level.

 

I expect to see major changes, for the better, in FFG production schedules and in distribution levels, especially in Europe. I also feel there will be major upheavals in distribution and sales in Europe and Pan Oceanian, including OP.

[Sithborg 11,644]

Yeah, the current European FFG distrubitors may be in for a shock when it comes time to reup their current deal.

[Suriel 619]

So it turns out the new tau codex is actually the old tau codex with a few new units added, but it doesn't say that on the page for the new product it says it on the old codex page.

And even then the advice is don't buy the new codex buy the £45 campaign book for the new units.

Every week I'm sure I can't get more disgusted but GW keeps finding new lows.

Never underestimate GW in their pursuit of money. Never.

[DariusAPB 6,925]

Hey Hobo, talk to me about this frostgrave thing. I am intrigued.

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Hey Hobo, talk to me about this frostgrave thing. I am intrigued.

Haven't read it yet but it's a small skirmish game you have a mage and an apprentice searching for objects in an abandoned city or something and they have a small warband for protection.

Only heard good things so far and best part is I can use stuff I already own to play so it's just £10 for the book.

[DariusAPB 6,925]

Intrigued I am. May have to look.