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Introducing Armada Warlords: database and fleet builder

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Awesome! Looking forward to seeing what comes next.

On 2/28/2018 at 6:38 AM, Green Knight said:

Bugs that could use some fixing:

I have two mundane, but long-standing requests :)

  • Login bug. Warlords loses login after some period. It seems better than it was, but there's still the risk of losing a fleet mid-build if you walk away and come back. Normal websites preserve a user login state (with cookies or whatever) for at least a month.
  • Warlords rearranges order of ships after saving

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43 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Is this the best way to sort?

  • or should stuff be sorted alphabetically?
  • or like with squadrons, by type, generic/ace, and then by alphabet? 

Feedback please.

For me it is dependent on the fleet that I'm building. There are times when I know the upgrade that I want and would like to view the list alphabetically and there are other times when I'm trying to find something to fit within a points constraint and would like to view by cost. I know that's probably not very helpful, but it would be nice if the sort was user-configurable on the fly. If it needs to be static, then I would vote for alphabetically.

With regards to squads, for the most part I like to see them sorted alphabetically by type with generics and aces per type grouped together, e.g. A-Wing, Green Squad, Shara, Tycho, etc.

I also just noticed this morning that Ryan Kingston's builder now lets you filter squads by ability.

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36 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Some good news:

  • 2nd Offensive Retrofit is NO LONGER DELETED when you edit/fork a list.

Bughunting works, but it's tedious... this was a small typo in an obscure php file called by another php file.

We who started a computer science major before realizing it was terrible solute you...  You’re doing gods work Greenie Pie

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2 minutes ago, PartyPotato said:

We who started a computer science major before realizing it was terrible solute you...  You’re doing gods work Greenie Pie

If this was like... at work or something... I would never use this many resources to find this bug :ph34r:

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Nooo I liked the ordering by cost! Whenever I use another builder it takes me literally forever (i.e. like two and a half seconds longer) to find the ships/upgrades I want because of the alphabetical silliness. Guess I'll have to get used to it now.

At least compact is still the way it used to be, for a while anyway. *sniff*

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Villakarvarousku said:

Nooo I liked the ordering by cost! Whenever I use another builder it takes me literally forever (i.e. like two and a half seconds longer) to find the ships/upgrades I want because of the alphabetical silliness. Guess I'll have to get used to it now.

At least compact is still the way it used to be, for a while anyway. *sniff*

It is not necessarily permanent... I hope to add a button to filter by different criteria. But that is for the future.

Meanwhile the rest of us... even I who remember most costs must search visually for a long time for example the Officers... the list has grown too long now.

Edit: now every view displays things in the same order... the database view, fleet builder view, etc.

I think that is an advantage, but it may take some getting used to.

Edited by Green Knight

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16 minutes ago, Villakarvarousku said:

Nooo I liked the ordering by cost! Whenever I use another builder it takes me literally forever (i.e. like two and a half seconds longer) to find the ships/upgrades I want because of the alphabetical silliness. Guess I'll have to get used to it now.

At least compact is still the way it used to be, for a while anyway. *sniff*

Or it could be punishment for my defeat at your hands in the Fleet Patrol :P

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14 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Meanwhile the rest of us... even I who remember most costs must search visually for a long time for example the Officers... the list has grown too long now.

Yeah, I imagine I'm the anomaly here. I suppose I'm just very used to it, even (and especially) with the officers.

17 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Or it could be punishment for my defeat at your hands in the Fleet Patrol :P

Gah, I should've known better than to anger the Empire! Of course they're going to try to impose their unnatural order on everything I hold dear...

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6 minutes ago, Hedgehogmech said:

I like ordering by type then cost - when I'm searching for Mauler Mithel or Howlrunner I am always surprised when they're not located with all the other TIE fighters...

They are now 😀

It sorts by squadron type, then shows the non-unique first, followed by the uniques in alphabetical order.

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Posted (edited)

Has someone actually been logged out mid-session lately?

I just ran a test today and yesterday, where I was logged in, but idle, and even after 1 hour there is no end of session.

Hard to classify this as a meaningful bug without further input.

Edited by Green Knight

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30 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Has someone actually been logged out mid-session lately?

I just ran a test today and yesterday, where I was logged in, but idle, and even after 1 hour there is no end of session.

Hard to classify this as a maniegnful bug without further input.

Anecdotal, but I don't recall being kicked out recently when I've left the tab open in the background. I'll open it up now and leave it open for a while today and see if that does anything.

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9 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

There are almost no such legality checks in the builder.

There are a few warning popups - for adding multiple uniques for example - but no coded stops.

So yes, that would be a good feature to add.

I wasn't sure if there was or not. I, like you, use all the builders and I forget what is in which. I will change my report to a feature request then...lol. 

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2 hours ago, Akhrin said:

Anecdotal, but I don't recall being kicked out recently when I've left the tab open in the background. I'll open it up now and leave it open for a while today and see if that does anything.

So that was 2.5hrs sitting on the compact fleet builder screen. It didn't error when I saved the list, but it has logged me out and I can't see the list now.

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You can often recover lists by looking for them in the recent public lists and forking. Even if it is lost in your personal lists it might show up there.

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Posted (edited)

I have done a bit of work on the builder in terms of how it displays ships/squadrons/upgrades.

There is now a logical, consistent order to everything:

  • it sorts everything by name (in every view the same) primarily

For example the ship listing on the front page (but same in every other view):

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  • squadrons also sort by squadron type (i.e. all A-wings are one type), with the generic squadron shown first, followed alphabetically by the uniques (same everywhere)
    • if you look closely you'll see a little bug - it's now fixed :) 

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  • upgrades are the same, and also order by type and faction (but in many views you will only see one type at a time, for example in the builder dialog)

I have also added some extra options to the Upgrade database: you can now quickly check/uncheck all boxes in a category. This should make filtering down to just the upgrades you want to see very fast. I dare say this view is now the quickest and most comprehensive way to view all the Armada upgrades!

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These are exciting times. Expect to see more great features added to Armada Warlords fleet builder!

Edited by Green Knight

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