Ten Numb AC Mangler Interaction

[Wretch 109]

I have been playing with B wings with AC and autoblaster when this combo occurred to me. I want to confirm my understanding of the interaction. Roll attack, cancel results, add 2 hits (ac), convert a hit to a crit (mangled) ,crit is unavoidable (Ten Numb ability).

 

Is this correct?

 

Ten Numb (31)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)

 

Total: 38

 

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Edited October 14, 2015 by Wretch

[librarian101 270]

Remember Accuracy cannot be modified after being used.

[emmjay 319]

Nope, after you use AC you cannot further modify dice. Use Fcs instead....

[Salted Diamond 591]

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

[DraconPyrothayan 6,107]

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

[Wretch 109]

 

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

 

That is devious.

[DraconPyrothayan 6,107]

 

 

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

 

That is devious.

 

Yarp.

Pity he can't fly with Dace.

[Salted Diamond 591]

I had never thought of the "Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon" combo  That is evil!  I love it!

[darthkray 135]

Ten. Plus mangler. Plus advanced sensors. Veteran instincts. Ooooo what fun.

[stuffedskullcat 1,132]

 

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

 

 

Ten+Calculation+Ion Cannon is EVIL. Pure evil. My buddy has been flying it lately and it's infuriating. Good clean fun, but infuriating.

[Starshiph 22]

Question, Ten Numbs ability says: "When attacking, 1 of your <Crit> results cannot be cancelled by defense dice."

 

Why does Ion Cannon help? Ion Cannon's dice cancellation is not "Defense Dice."

 

 

EDIT: Wait, I got it. Ten Numb makes sure Ion Cannon hits, unless the enemy has an Evade token. That's cute.

Edited October 16, 2015 by Starshiph

[InterceptorMad 1,920]

The ion cannon doesn't help, he helps the ion cannon.

 

If he uses an ion cannon and has a way to get a guaranteed crit result (like using Calculation), then there is no way to stop the ion effect going through. Instant damage and ion token.

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

Question, Ten Numbs ability says: "When attacking, 1 of your <Crit> results cannot be cancelled by defense dice."

Why does Ion Cannon help? Ion Cannon's dice cancellation is not "Defense Dice."

 

EDIT: Wait, I got it. Ten Numb makes sure Ion Cannon hits, unless the enemy has an Evade token. That's cute.

Even an evade token doesn't help. In the newest set of rules, an evade token adds an [evade] result just as if you'd rolled it on a die--which means it can't be used to cancel Ten's crit.

[Wretch 109]

I don't think Ten helps the ion cannon because the card read receives 1 damage not receives 1 hit, there is no "boom" to change with calculation.

 

"If this attack hits, the defender suffers 1 damage and receives 1 ion token. Then cancel all dice results."

Edited October 16, 2015 by Wretch

[InterceptorMad 1,920]

There is, as Calculation changes a focus roll to a crit (which then because of Ten cannot be cancelled) before any of the ion effects.

 

We arn't saying he makes the ion damage a crit, we're saying he makes the ion shot impossible to evade, and so is basically as if Lt. Blount was shooting (always counts as if he hit)

 

Which means auto-ion on any ship he fires at, which rocks!

 

 

Same with the Mangler Cannon. Ten would always hit with it, and therefore always get (at least) a crit through.

Edited October 16, 2015 by InterceptorMad

[Wretch 109]

There is, as Calculation changes a focus roll to a crit (which then because of Ten cannot be cancelled) before any of the ion effects.

 

We arn't saying he makes the ion damage a crit, we're saying he makes the ion shot impossible to evade, and so is basically as if Lt. Blount was shooting (always counts as if he hit)

 

Which means auto-ion on any ship he fires at, which rocks!

 

 

Same with the Mangler Cannon. Ten would always hit with it, and therefore always get (at least) a crit through.

got it

[Parravon 5,216]

There's not too many ways to get guaranteed damage in this game, but this is a good one.

Anyone know of any other sure hit combos, other than Blount?

Edited October 16, 2015 by Parravon

[Wretch 109]

There's not too many ways to get guaranteed damage in this game, but this is a good one.

Anyone know of any other sure hit combos, other than Blount?

 

AC and autoblasters

[Forgottenlore 9,823]

Doom shuttle. Feedback array. Deadman's switch.

[Tuls 215]

OK so let me make sure I have this correct. Ten rolls all hits no crits no eyes defender could block it. Otherwise defender suffers normal ion cannon damage cause ion will kill the crit since it is not defender canceling it.

[Parravon 5,216]

OK so let me make sure I have this correct. Ten rolls all hits no crits no eyes defender could block it. Otherwise defender suffers normal ion cannon damage cause ion will kill the crit since it is not defender canceling it.

Yeah, if he rolls at least one crit result with an Ion Cannon, it can't be cancelled, so it's going to do Ion damage and assign a token. When you throw in Calculation, you just give yourself more chance to get that crit result.

[Stoneface 3,735]

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

Wouldn't the rules for the ion cannon override calculation?

[Stoneface 3,735]

I think a better combo would be an autoblaster with AC on him.  Yes it's range 1, but you will ALWAYS get atleast 2 hits there.

That completely ignores his pilot ability, though.

And is 8 points of fairly bad upgrade for a B-Wing.

 

Ten + Mangler is fun.

Ten + Calculation + Ion Cannon is fun.

Wouldn't the rules for the ion cannon override calculation?

Never mind. I was thinking the crit and ion effect both went thru. I got it now. And yes it is evil.

[Parravon 5,216]

Calculation, being a dice mod, is pretty much an insurance policy here. There's nothing wrong with increasing the odds of securing that uncancelable crit.