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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

So essentially what I said. Hope it gets here soon!

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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

So essentially what I said. Hope it gets here soon!

No, not what you said. What they said was the initial press release was wrong and they asked me where I had read Q2.

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And of course the only point where FFG has any control is once it gets on this side of customs. And until the port gets through the backlog FFG is stuck. Oh and you would be horrified at how the unions in the port work. 

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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

So essentially what I said. Hope it gets here soon!

No, not what you said. What they said was the initial press release was wrong and they asked me where I had read Q2.

"Initial announcement is irrelevant once we can see it on the upcoming page and track its progress."

*shrug*

Oh well.

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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

So essentially what I said. Hope it gets here soon!

No, not what you said. What they said was the initial press release was wrong and they asked me where I had read Q2.

"Initial announcement is irrelevant once we can see it on the upcoming page and track its progress."

*shrug*

Oh well.

 

Initial announcements are based on a guesstimate (what is the current status of the book, how long, on average does it take to get to A. the printer's, B. on the ship. C. off the ship, etc...). The upcoming page shows the actual results. I'm willing to bet that most of the announcements go out before the item is at the printer's. And most places don't edit their news stories after the fact. They either post retractions or corrections in another printing (or in the case of online publications just take the whole post down).

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

How far behind is the port in LA at the moment? 

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

How far behind is the port in LA at the moment? 

 

 

It really depends on what the steamship line they use and which terminal it actually delivers to. 

 

I had several containers sit for a little over two weeks as UTL (Unable to Locate) which basically means someone pulled it off the vessel set it in a row and promptly piled a bunch of stuff in front of it before filing the location. As I said took them over two weeks to find it another 3 days to show it as available and then a day to move it off dock so I could have it picked up. So all in all those containers were set back almost a month. Not the first or last time that will happen.

 

I also don't know at what point FFG lists this as being off the boat. Once it docks and the container is physically off the vessel (which would be strange). Once it has been delivered to the warehouse (maybe more reasonable). Once it has been unloaded/transloaded and is ready for shipment (Which is what I would do). So again so many factors in logistics that without me actually knowning orgin and destination steampship line and container number. All I can do is speculate but as I said I have been in the logistics field for almost a decade now and there are numerous ways a shipment can be delayed.

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

How far behind is the port in LA at the moment? 

 

 

It really depends on what the steamship line they use and which terminal it actually delivers to. 

 

I had several containers sit for a little over two weeks as UTL (Unable to Locate) which basically means someone pulled it off the vessel set it in a row and promptly piled a bunch of stuff in front of it before filing the location. As I said took them over two weeks to find it another 3 days to show it as available and then a day to move it off dock so I could have it picked up. So all in all those containers were set back almost a month. Not the first or last time that will happen.

 

I also don't know at what point FFG lists this as being off the boat. Once it docks and the container is physically off the vessel (which would be strange). Once it has been delivered to the warehouse (maybe more reasonable). Once it has been unloaded/transloaded and is ready for shipment (Which is what I would do). So again so many factors in logistics that without me actually knowning orgin and destination steampship line and container number. All I can do is speculate but as I said I have been in the logistics field for almost a decade now and there are numerous ways a shipment can be delayed.

 

They don't list off the boat. They list "On The Boat" and the next is "Shipping Now". So, something is on the boat from the time they are notified that it has left the printer's to the time that it arrives in their warehouse.

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

How far behind is the port in LA at the moment? 

 

 

It really depends on what the steamship line they use and which terminal it actually delivers to. 

 

I had several containers sit for a little over two weeks as UTL (Unable to Locate) which basically means someone pulled it off the vessel set it in a row and promptly piled a bunch of stuff in front of it before filing the location. As I said took them over two weeks to find it another 3 days to show it as available and then a day to move it off dock so I could have it picked up. So all in all those containers were set back almost a month. Not the first or last time that will happen.

 

I also don't know at what point FFG lists this as being off the boat. Once it docks and the container is physically off the vessel (which would be strange). Once it has been delivered to the warehouse (maybe more reasonable). Once it has been unloaded/transloaded and is ready for shipment (Which is what I would do). So again so many factors in logistics that without me actually knowning orgin and destination steampship line and container number. All I can do is speculate but as I said I have been in the logistics field for almost a decade now and there are numerous ways a shipment can be delayed.

 "

They don't list off the boat. They list "On The Boat" and the next is "Shipping Now". So, something is on the boat from the time they are notified that it has left the printer's to the time that it arrives in their warehouse.

 

Which allows for even more a lag time. I don't know where the warehouse is (maybe someone else does) so it could be entirely possible that the container lands in LAX/LGB (or anywhere else for that matter) and is offloaded from the vessel and put on the rail in that cause adding an extra week or two would not be out of the ordinary. I am rather new to FFG so I don't know what the usualy time from listed as "on the boat" to "shipping now is" I know the estimate is 4-6 weeks. Is that the actually norm? All I know is that I want them and I want them yesterday!!!!

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There are a lot of factors for ocean shipments. They may have been loaded on the vessel in July but the vessel may have departed later or could have been dry docked for repairs.

 

There was a massive explosion at Tianjin on 8/13 which lead to a lot of back log.

 

I deal with the LA area ports everyday and while the "strike" from Jan-Feb is over they are still working slowly might be the new megavessels that are now carring more containers than was previously possible. Might be that several of the major inland ports no longer operate night gates on Fridays or Saturdays.

 

Oakland Ports are a nightmare.

 

There are a ton of other reasons why these may be on the boat (or off the boat you would be suprised how often someone doesn't lash a container down and it ends up floating around the pacific). I guess we just have to wait for them even though I might be willing to swim out and get my new F&D books.

How far behind is the port in LA at the moment? 

 

 

It really depends on what the steamship line they use and which terminal it actually delivers to. 

 

I had several containers sit for a little over two weeks as UTL (Unable to Locate) which basically means someone pulled it off the vessel set it in a row and promptly piled a bunch of stuff in front of it before filing the location. As I said took them over two weeks to find it another 3 days to show it as available and then a day to move it off dock so I could have it picked up. So all in all those containers were set back almost a month. Not the first or last time that will happen.

 

I also don't know at what point FFG lists this as being off the boat. Once it docks and the container is physically off the vessel (which would be strange). Once it has been delivered to the warehouse (maybe more reasonable). Once it has been unloaded/transloaded and is ready for shipment (Which is what I would do). So again so many factors in logistics that without me actually knowning orgin and destination steampship line and container number. All I can do is speculate but as I said I have been in the logistics field for almost a decade now and there are numerous ways a shipment can be delayed.

 "

They don't list off the boat. They list "On The Boat" and the next is "Shipping Now". So, something is on the boat from the time they are notified that it has left the printer's to the time that it arrives in their warehouse.

 

Which allows for even more a lag time. I don't know where the warehouse is (maybe someone else does) so it could be entirely possible that the container lands in LAX/LGB (or anywhere else for that matter) and is offloaded from the vessel and put on the rail in that cause adding an extra week or two would not be out of the ordinary. I am rather new to FFG so I don't know what the usualy time from listed as "on the boat" to "shipping now is" I know the estimate is 4-6 weeks. Is that the actually norm? All I know is that I want them and I want them yesterday!!!!

 

It's in Minnesota, specifically Roseville given that is where they are hiring temporary warehouse associates to.

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So stuff has been on the boat for 10 weeks....what the hell :P

Two words:  Somali Pirates.

 

Wow...they are getting bad....they now are entirely taking over the pacific....

 

 Malaysian Pirates then. :D

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I went ahead and emailed customer service.  We'll see if they answer.

Got the answer, bottom line take anything written in the press releases with a grain of salt and just use the 'Upcoming' page for the actual release and schedule dates.  So, it's on the boat and they're apparently rowing pretty slow...

So essentially what I said. Hope it gets here soon!

No, not what you said. What they said was the initial press release was wrong and they asked me where I had read Q2.

"Initial announcement is irrelevant once we can see it on the upcoming page and track its progress."

*shrug*

Oh well.

Initial announcements are based on a guesstimate (what is the current status of the book, how long, on average does it take to get to A. the printer's, B. on the ship. C. off the ship, etc...). The upcoming page shows the actual results. I'm willing to bet that most of the announcements go out before the item is at the printer's. And most places don't edit their news stories after the fact. They either post retractions or corrections in another printing (or in the case of online publications just take the whole post down).

I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Before anyone put in an inquiry with FFG customer service, I posted the section of my post in quotation marks. Then, word came back from FFG and it was extremely similar to what I had said. I pointed that out, was told it was not similar, so I posted it again and shrugged it off. :-)

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http://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/news/2015/10/13/port-of-long-beach-posts-record-quarterly-cargo.html

 

Port sounds busy.  Probably why FFG's delivery times and such are being thrown off this year.

 

Looks like Seattle is breaking shipping records too.

 

EDIT -

Never mind - I'm sleepy. That's just passenger traffic, not freight traffic.

Edited by Desslok

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