Empire at War Ships: Will we see them in X-Wing?

[Marinealver 8,068]

 

Probably none of them because empire at was is now part of the discarded EU and future releases will include models from the movies made by JJ Abrams because Disney is going to push their brand of Star Wars.

 

Expect Wave IX to be no ships from anything but Episode VII and Rebels or from any other show that has been produced under Disney's name.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. One of the prequels failings was that nothing had the chance to become iconic, because every movie the array of vehicles had completely changed since so many (and some actualy good, especially on the Republic side) new ones were introduced with the old ones just discarded. It would probably not be wise of Disney to have that many new ships per movie again. Especially Scum is still going to draw from the EU for now.

 

Yeah but the prequels were not done under Disney's license. As I said before Disney sees X-wing as potential marketing for their other shows, and Disney won't be wrong because thanks to Wave 8 people have expressed interest into Rebels.

 

But Disney has a hand in all sorts of production and they will push "Disney" products on X-wing and for evidence you have to look no further than the Force Friday release of the latest core set. It is apparent that Disney sees X-wing as for ways of generating interest in Episode VII before it is out and will likely do the same for further shows. So Disney will push their products out before the prequels or any other EU ships.

[Okapi 1,463]

Possibly, but Punishing One and Mist Hunter. If Disney can provide decent starfighters I'm sure FFG will come up with some rules and models (probably an easier sell for them, too), but if not, they'll look to the EU. Generally Star Wars films and TV shows only feature a couple of relevant ships each, certainly not enough to cover two years worth of releases.

[Admiral Deathrain 5,231]

 

 

Probably none of them because empire at was is now part of the discarded EU and future releases will include models from the movies made by JJ Abrams because Disney is going to push their brand of Star Wars.

 

Expect Wave IX to be no ships from anything but Episode VII and Rebels or from any other show that has been produced under Disney's name.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. One of the prequels failings was that nothing had the chance to become iconic, because every movie the array of vehicles had completely changed since so many (and some actualy good, especially on the Republic side) new ones were introduced with the old ones just discarded. It would probably not be wise of Disney to have that many new ships per movie again. Especially Scum is still going to draw from the EU for now.

 

Yeah but the prequels were not done under Disney's license. As I said before Disney sees X-wing as potential marketing for their other shows, and Disney won't be wrong because thanks to Wave 8 people have expressed interest into Rebels.

 

But Disney has a hand in all sorts of production and they will push "Disney" products on X-wing and for evidence you have to look no further than the Force Friday release of the latest core set. It is apparent that Disney sees X-wing as for ways of generating interest in Episode VII before it is out and will likely do the same for further shows. So Disney will push their products out before the prequels or any other EU ships.

 

Sure, nothing wrong with that, but there won't be enough material to fill all the waves so there is still going to be some EU stuff.

[Suriel 619]

 

Tie Experimental MK1, that was my squadron's ship in Emperor's Hammer fleet. Good times.

Impossible.  No sane person would ever fly a TIE Bizarro.

 

That mounted turbolaser man. Feel the pawah. Who needs sanity if you fly the epitome of glass canon?

[Gajavi 61]

One way they could do the experimental TIE's is by making it a title card similar to the M3-A, but that would detract from what makes the M3-A special with it's customization options (even though I have only ever seen them on the field with a cannon).

 

I would love to see the TIE Oppressor though and have it fill the B-Wing/Misthunter roll. It wouldn't detract from the Defender either since it'd be slower and would give Empire a beefy small ship (which the Punisher can also do).

[DarthEnderX 5,240]

That mounted turbolaser man. Feel the pawah. Who needs sanity if you fly the epitome of glass canon?

I dunno man.  If the Bizarro's turbolaser acts anything like the one on Huge ships, I'm not sure it's that great.

 

Even if it doesn't take Huge ship energy, 4 attack and you get to change one focus to a hit is nice, but the target doubles their agility value?

 

Might be more efficient to just fly something with a Cannon slot and take a HLC.

 

Which is probably how the game would implement the ship anyway.   A ship with no primary weapon(or at most, an almost useless one, like the HWK) and then a Cannon slot.  And then package it with a HLC.

[Budgernaut 6,234]

The Zann Consortium for Armada would be cool.

Oh please, no! Then I might have to actually buy that game. I've done well staying away this long.

[DariusAPB 6,925]

I'd expect the Ricky, because we've already got the Kicky. As was mentioned they were introduced in Galaxies, but WERE IN EAW AS WELL. So yeah, that.

 

TIE Scout... Not a huge fan, but whatever would like to see it in as a special support ship.

Would like a scale model for scenery in Imp Assault too... along with more scout troopers. Still no idea why they get e-webs....

 

I mean really, gun emplacement and scout don't exactly go hand in hand.... I digress.

 

XG-1 Assault gunboat and R-41 need to be in first, but scum-wing ships need to pad out Scum something plenty.

I think the Raider takes the position that the Tartan would take, unless it's a higher tier huge, in which case I can see the DP-20 Correllian Gunship and the Tartan both appearing as heavyweight epic ships (in the 200 points barebone area).

[DarthEnderX 5,240]

Yeah, I dislike the TIE Scout so much...I would actually prefer to see the Gunboat come out before it.  And the Gunboat isn't a TIE!

Edited October 5, 2015 by DarthEnderX

[DariusAPB 6,925]

My dislike for the TIE Scout isn't anything to do with Aesthetics. Rather it's kind of redundant.

 

Probe Droids, for system scouting, long range scout craft for exploring, and hyperspace capable transports that can carry 40 odd stormtroopers for aggressive ground recon (Lambda, Delta and Gamma class shuttles the DX-9 and ATR-6).

 

Assault gunboats are also the perfect recon rig with hyperspace capability and atmospheric functionality.

 

So TIE with a box on top of it that carries a couple scouts with speeder bikes doesn't do what the above can't. Hell the transports can probably carry ATSTs for scouting purpose (All Terrain Scout Transport guys).

[Gajavi 61]

while the Tartin cruiser was in Empire at War, I think the Raider fits the aesthetic of the Empire better as it keeps the Star Destroyer look of their larger ships.

[TheRealStarkiller 3,445]

I'd like to see the TIE Scout as an imperial small based utility/support ship - similar to the rebel HWK.

[Gajavi 61]

I'd like to see the TIE Scout as an imperial small based utility/support ship - similar to the rebel HWK.

At first i was iffy about the idea of adding the TIE Scout, but this sounds like a great idea. Like maybe one of the pilots increasing the range of a friendly ships secondary weapon by 1 by being a spotter or targeting relay, although combining that with Major Rhymer and Advanced Proton Torpedoes could be a bit dangerous.

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,649]

I'd like to see the TIE Scout as an imperial small based utility/support ship - similar to the rebel HWK.

I as well, however, i suspect the special Forces TIE from the force awakens is a contender for that spot - though likely with a better dial than the Hwk-290

[KCDodger 10,596]

I'd like to see the TIE Scout as an imperial small based utility/support ship - similar to the rebel HWK.

Yeah! I made a thread about that forever ago. It really would be the perfect analogue.

[TheRealStarkiller 3,445]

 

I'd like to see the TIE Scout as an imperial small based utility/support ship - similar to the rebel HWK.

I as well, however, i suspect the special Forces TIE from the force awakens is a contender for that spot - though likely with a better dial than the Hwk-290

 

 

We know nothing about the Tie Cog - besides the cog and the turret.  Why should this thing be a support ship???

 

The Tie Scout would just be perfect for this job.

[DarthEnderX 5,240]

So TIE with a box on top of it that carries a couple scouts with speeder bikes doesn't do what the above can't.

Wait, it does that?  I don't see anything about that in it's wookieepedia article.  I thought it was all just, like, sensor equipment.

Edited October 5, 2015 by DarthEnderX

[DariusAPB 6,925]

I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember they had extra cargo for the purpose.

 

 

Here is an interesting thread on the subjectL

 

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/136711-stat-block-tie-scout-lone-scout-a/

Edited October 5, 2015 by DariusAPB

[Ken at Sunrise 2,064]

 

So TIE with a box on top of it that carries a couple scouts with speeder bikes doesn't do what the above can't.

Wait, it does that?  I don't see anything about that in it's wookieepedia article.  I thought it was all just, like, sensor equipment.

 

 

 

The civilian version had enough room for supplies and stores for up to a year.

[Audio Weasel 3,659]

 

I'd love to see a Tartan Cruiser.  Definitely a sweet ship.

 

BTW - The Rihkxyrk fighter wasn't created for Empire at War.  It's another fighter from Star Wars Galaxies just like the Kihraxz and the Scyk.

 

So you're saying there's hope? =D

 

Of course there is.  The Scum fighters are getting progressively harder to pronounce, so the Reykjavik fighter is the next logical step.

[KCDodger 10,596]

The TIE Scout mostly had sensor equipment. But the civvie version does have cargo space.

Matter of fact it's my character's ship-base, which has become more of a TIE/RV...

[Firespray-32 5,424]

Empire at War looks to have already been used for extensive sourcing (3D models are easier to work with than pictures after all). The TIE defender, TIE phantom and StarViper are all in their EaW forms, and Armada has the Victory-class in its EaW design and the Assault Frigate Mark II in it, which is an EaW original.

 

Then you have horrible taste.  Because it's the worst looking TIE ever.

 

Fairly sure the Oppressor beats it.

[Gajavi 61]

Empire at War looks to have already been used for extensive sourcing (3D models are easier to work with than pictures after all). The TIE defender, TIE phantom and StarViper are all in their EaW forms, and Armada has the Victory-class in its EaW design and the Assault Frigate Mark II in it, which is an EaW original.

 

To be fair, they are pulling ships that had their major appearance in Star Wars Galaxy and barely seen anywhere else like the M3-A and Khiraxz.

 

 

Then you have horrible taste.  Because it's the worst looking TIE ever.

 

Fairly sure the Oppressor beats it.

 

I actually like the look of the oppressor and hope it makes an appearance in the game with a similar role to B-Wing/Misthunter.

[GrimmyV 7,421]

My dislike for the TIE Scout isn't anything to do with Aesthetics. Rather it's kind of redundant.

 

Probe Droids, for system scouting, long range scout craft for exploring, and hyperspace capable transports that can carry 40 odd stormtroopers for aggressive ground recon (Lambda, Delta and Gamma class shuttles the DX-9 and ATR-6).

 

Assault gunboats are also the perfect recon rig with hyperspace capability and atmospheric functionality.

 

So TIE with a box on top of it that carries a couple scouts with speeder bikes doesn't do what the above can't. Hell the transports can probably carry ATSTs for scouting purpose (All Terrain Scout Transport guys).

You can make an arguement about the Gunboat being redundant thanks to the ARC 170 in a heavy recon role, or TIE fighters being redundant thanks to V-wings.

Also TIE scouts had sophisticated sensors and comm equipment and probably didn't carry actual scout troops for ground recon. The advantages of the Scout is that it was a TIE so it shared commonality with that series, as well as being small enough to be stationed in smaller hangers on most capital ships. A standard Transport could land a bunch of scouts and speeders but I doubt it could determine ground targets and their nature from orbit, without the need to land.

[Marinealver 8,068]

 

 

 

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... So Disney will push their products out before the prequels or any other EU ships.

 

Sure, nothing wrong with that, but there won't be enough material to fill all the waves so there is still going to be some EU stuff.

 

Maybe, for now I see Episodes VII-IX > Disney Star Wars Shows like Rebels > Other EU stuff and prequels. for the releases.