eltom13 34 Posted September 6, 2015 When does a Tech-Adept gain the Machine Trait? Supposedly having the Mechanicus Implants Trait does not suffice. At least the description in the DH2 Core Rule book does not mention anything about the Machine Trait. Also in the Gear chapter of the same book, in the section about Cybernetics I couldn't find anything about the Machine Trait. On the other hand the Tech-Priest in the NPCs chapter and a Tech-Priest in the adventure have the Machine Trait. So when would you grant it to a PC Tech Adept? And keep in mind that this Trait is very powerful! See fire and mind-psy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynata 2,228 Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) DH1 had a special Elite Advance for this, where the Tech-Priest is basically turned into a full cyborg a la Robocop as the final stage of their "evolution" from flesh to machine. Perhaps it's something FFG will introduce with one of their upcoming supplements? Edited September 6, 2015 by Lynata Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skarsnik38 100 Posted September 6, 2015 In Only War Hammer of the Emperor supplement there is a talent that gives the machine trait with the value of it based on the number of cybernetics you possess halved. Since Only War used the aptitude system as well its probably the best option at the moment. 1 Lynata reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talon of Anathrax 55 Posted September 6, 2015 I seem to remember that Black Crusade Hereteks could get "Mechanicus Assimilation" or something, to get the machine trait. Is there no equivalent in Dark Heresy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jargal 200 Posted September 6, 2015 Is there no equivalent in Dark Heresy? DH I, The Lathe Worlds, p.57: The Flash is Weak talent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utherix 31 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) They removed the Flesh is Weak talent in an effort to eradicate the ability to buy implants with experience. Instead, Tech-Priests are just able to acquisition cybernetics easier than other acolytes, which is far better. NPCs have it because it's easier to do than listing all their cybernetics. Edited September 13, 2015 by Utherix 1 Lynata reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skarsnik38 100 Posted September 9, 2015 They removed the Flesh is Weak talent in an effort to remove the ability to buy implants with experience. NPC's have it because it's easier to do than listing all their cybernetics. Instead, Tech-Priests are just able to acquisition cybernetics easier than other acolytes, which is far better IMO. It was a talent in DH 1st ed, then a bionic in Black Crusade and then was a talent again in Only War. Seems like they can't decide what they want it to be. It may show up again sooner or later in an expansion in one form or another. It's really powerful though so they may choose not to put it in for balance or may be saving it for a tech priest related Elite advance talent. There are also still talents related to bionics they just require you to buy the base bionic with influence then you can spend experience on the talents to modify their usefulness. But anyway, anyone who wants to use it now the best way is probably to use the Only War The Flesh is Weak talent since it already has aptitudes assigned or use the mechanicus assimilation bionic from Black Crusade. 1 eltom13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eltom13 34 Posted September 10, 2015 I see. Thank you all for your valuable comments! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
