Epsilon Leader de-stresses himself?

[PaulTiberius 1,103]

I assume this is so, since it doesn't say "each *other* friendly ship".

Much like Jan Ors crew.

Any disagreement?

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

No disagreement. That's exactly how it works.

[droz69 232]

Wow, great find.  I needed to read that wice.  He actually removes stress off himself.  Very nice.

[PaulTiberius 1,103]

Also it's not an option. So I made the mistake of pairing him with a tiefo that had Wired. They both K-turned together and removing stress actually hurt the other one.

[Daniel Beaver 165]

Same type of wording as Jan Ors crew, so I would expect them to work the same (that is to say, the ship where the ability originated from is also a friendly ship within range, and so benefits from the ability). By contrast, Howrunner's ability is worded "when another friendly ship".

[Arschbombe 1,001]

The new rule reference book addresses this kind of ability on Page 12 under Friendly:

 

"A ship is friendly to itself and can affect itself with any of its abilities that effect friendly ships unless those abilities explicitly affect 'other' friendly ships"

[PaulTiberius 1,103]

Cool. I hadn't seen that yet.

[Hrathen 1,463]

The probem I see is this.  The card says "at range 1" not "within range 1"  I am not sure he counts as being "at range 1" of himself.  But I know the new rules specifically talk about "at" vs "within" and I need to reread that.

[Hrathen 1,463]

The rules are still unclear about weather or not Epsilon Leader can be "at" range 1 with himself.  It will need to be faq'd.

[WWHSD 9,273]

The rules are still unclear about weather or not Epsilon Leader can be "at" range 1 with himself.  It will need to be faq'd.

 

No they aren't. The rules and the existing FAQ makes it clear that a ship is at range one of itself.

 

From the new rules reference, Page 16:

 

A ship is at Range 1 of itself and any ships that it is touching.

 

From the FAQ, Page 16:

 

Q: Is a ship considered to be at Range 1 of itself?

A: Yes.

Edited September 8, 2015 by WWHSD

[WWHSD 9,273]

The probem I see is this.  The card says "at range 1" not "within range 1"  I am not sure he counts as being "at range 1" of himself.  But I know the new rules specifically talk about "at" vs "within" and I need to reread that.

 

Very few things require the target to be "within" a range band. For a ship to be within a range band the entire base must be inside that range, if any part of the base is outside of the range band it doesn't count. 

 

[Hrathen 1,463]

 

The rules are still unclear about weather or not Epsilon Leader can be "at" range 1 with himself.  It will need to be faq'd.

 

No they aren't. The rules and the existing FAQ makes it clear that a ship is at range one of itself.

 

From the new rules reference, Page 16:

 

A ship is at Range 1 of itself and any ships that it is touching.

 

From the FAQ, Page 16:

 

Q: Is a ship considered to be at Range 1 of itself?

A: Yes.

 

That answers my only question.  It is just that all that "at" "within" stuff on range is new to these additions of the rules.

[Rookie Pilot 72]

You can do red manouvers every round at the cost of your actions, seems nice and fun!